Questions from texans vs saints game

Tobias-Reiper · 08-27-2012, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

...and then people go on and on about the game. How can you do that? It didn't count. It wasn't being played the same way as a regular season game would be played. How can you make any intelligent observations at all? You know that most teams keep it vanilla. Oh, boy!

/rant

It may not be a "real" game, it may not count in the standings, but still, I want to see tendencies. Especially this season, when there is a completely new defensive system. Watching these preseason games, I can see things that I have not seen in NO in a while, like controlled blitzes, players wrapping their arms around the opponent instead of launching shoulder first, CBs actually contesting balls from the WRs...

And when you think about it, would you want to go into the regular season with a new defensive scheme without trying it out first, being able to evaluate which players do better on the new scheme? Or would you want Spagnuolo just to guess who may or may not be a good fit on his scheme and go with that Week 1?

And how about the offense? Would you think it is enough for the offense to just practice against the same scheme for 1-2 months, and go straight from that into week 1?

Without preseason games, the Saints would not have Lance Moore, or PT, or Ivory, or De La Puente, or Abdul-Quddus, or Galette...

skymike · 08-27-2012, 05:12 PM

naaa, LB, you are free to tell it like you see it. I, of course, love preseason,
like women enjoy the chase. Its like singing Christmas songs before Christmas.

AlaskaSaints · 08-27-2012, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

The Texans first drive right down our throat and the rest of the game are not that similar...

Turnovers were rampant... on both sides

To be honest ... at about 4 minutes into the game I looked at the screen and ask WTF is this? Then things settled down and looked a lot better.

Just so you dont choke if you are eating when you are watching, Shanle made a tackle for a loss... He actually looked like he was 6'9" 290 and ran a 3.5s 40 yd when he made that tackle.

AlaskaSaints spits coffee all over his computer... out his NOSE!

LOL

Alaska

Budsdrinker · 08-27-2012, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

naaa, LB, you are free to tell it like you see it. I, of course, love preseason,
like women enjoy the chase. Its like singing Christmas songs before Christmas.

Then why didn't you go to the game????

Budsdrinker · 08-27-2012, 11:06 PM

For the most part, the team looked good. 2 costly turnovers but the defense and ST got turnovers back plus a score. Missed assignments by the defense a few times but you did have 2 non starting LB's playing with Casillas playing the middle which is not his position. Oh and by the way the refs sucked again.

Saint_LB · 08-28-2012, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

It may not be a "real" game, it may not count in the standings, but still, I want to see tendencies. Especially this season, when there is a completely new defensive system. Watching these preseason games, I can see things that I have not seen in NO in a while, like controlled blitzes, players wrapping their arms around the opponent instead of launching shoulder first, CBs actually contesting balls from the WRs...

And when you think about it, would you want to go into the regular season with a new defensive scheme without trying it out first, being able to evaluate which players do better on the new scheme? Or would you want Spagnuolo just to guess who may or may not be a good fit on his scheme and go with that Week 1?

And how about the offense? Would you think it is enough for the offense to just practice against the same scheme for 1-2 months, and go straight from that into week 1?

Without preseason games, the Saints would not have Lance Moore, or PT, or Ivory, or De La Puente, or Abdul-Quddus, or Galette...

You know...I don't care how long they practice before the season starts. I don't care how many people they play, or scrimmage, before they start for real. The only thing I'm complaining about is having to sit down and watch a game on TV that doesn't count. They know I won't be able to resist watching, but with a different type of interest than if it were for real. I just wish I didn't have to agonize through a month of football that doesn't count and stop having to worry that somebody important is going to go down before they start doing it for real.

SaintsBro · 08-28-2012, 10:50 AM

You don't have to watch on TV if you don't want to. No one is forcing you, man.

I kind of dig that last preseason game, because it's like a window into a weird alternate universe where Drew Brees was never born and the Saints still suck and the team is still like a hapless comedy act. It brings back memories of when THAT'S what the Saints looked like for real, and keeps me humble. Also it's a huge amount of drama, to watch these young guys play their hearts out and struggle to make the team, with potentially so much future money and fame on the line for them, everything they've worked for and ever dreamed about. A lot of these guys just get one shot at their dreams, and that can be very real to watch.

The other thing that's nice about preseason is that they are good games to take young kids to. They get to see Drew Brees and get the vibe of a football game, see the team run out the tunnel and be introduced and warm up and stuff, but then when the kid gets tired they can go home to bed around halftime, and nobody cares about leaving early. One half with a 7 PM kickoff, it's like the perfect length for little kids. I got hooked on it by being taken to preseason games at Tulane Stadium as a little guy.

Tobias-Reiper · 08-28-2012, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

You know...I don't care how long they practice before the season starts. I don't care how many people they play, or scrimmage, before they start for real. The only thing I'm complaining about is having to sit down and watch a game on TV that doesn't count. They know I won't be able to resist watching, but with a different type of interest than if it were for real. I just wish I didn't have to agonize through a month of football that doesn't count and stop having to worry that somebody important is going to go down before they start doing it for real.

I know what you mean .

Rugby Saint II · 08-28-2012, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by darstep

Not really playing full speed, full contact football until gameday seems to show,
especially at the crunch point. Other than that we looked good.
Once we settle into the season, week 3 or 4, we will be tough to deal with.
Once the defense gets it bearings, we are going to take names.

The problem is that if we start out losing a couple of close games because of our defense we might have a hard time fighting back without Sean Payton. I want to start out strong and build momentum.

skymike · 08-29-2012, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Then why didn't you go to the game????

budget dude, budget....
saving it for the regular season. The Texans game is always on every tv here.

See you at the Redskins game!

08-27-2012, 03:15 PM	#11
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Questions from texans vs saints game Originally Posted by Saint_LB ...and then people go on and on about the game. How can you do that? It didn't count. It wasn't being played the same way as a regular season game would be played. How can you make any intelligent observations at all? You know that most teams keep it vanilla. Oh, boy! /rant It may not be a "real" game, it may not count in the standings, but still, I want to see tendencies. Especially this season, when there is a completely new defensive system. Watching these preseason games, I can see things that I have not seen in NO in a while, like controlled blitzes, players wrapping their arms around the opponent instead of launching shoulder first, CBs actually contesting balls from the WRs... And when you think about it, would you want to go into the regular season with a new defensive scheme without trying it out first, being able to evaluate which players do better on the new scheme? Or would you want Spagnuolo just to guess who may or may not be a good fit on his scheme and go with that Week 1? And how about the offense? Would you think it is enough for the offense to just practice against the same scheme for 1-2 months, and go straight from that into week 1? Without preseason games, the Saints would not have Lance Moore, or PT, or Ivory, or De La Puente, or Abdul-Quddus, or Galette... Saint_LB likes this.
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08-27-2012, 05:12 PM	#12
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Questions from texans vs saints game naaa, LB, you are free to tell it like you see it. I, of course, love preseason, like women enjoy the chase. Its like singing Christmas songs before Christmas. Saint_LB and The Dude like this.

08-27-2012, 10:15 PM	#13
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Questions from texans vs saints game Originally Posted by x626xBlack The Texans first drive right down our throat and the rest of the game are not that similar... Turnovers were rampant... on both sides To be honest ... at about 4 minutes into the game I looked at the screen and ask WTF is this? Then things settled down and looked a lot better. Just so you dont choke if you are eating when you are watching, Shanle made a tackle for a loss... He actually looked like he was 6'9" 290 and ran a 3.5s 40 yd when he made that tackle. AlaskaSaints spits coffee all over his computer... out his NOSE! LOL Alaska

08-27-2012, 11:01 PM	#14
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Questions from texans vs saints game Originally Posted by skymike naaa, LB, you are free to tell it like you see it. I, of course, love preseason, like women enjoy the chase. Its like singing Christmas songs before Christmas. Then why didn't you go to the game???? Saint_LB likes this.

08-27-2012, 11:06 PM	#15
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Questions from texans vs saints game For the most part, the team looked good. 2 costly turnovers but the defense and ST got turnovers back plus a score. Missed assignments by the defense a few times but you did have 2 non starting LB's playing with Casillas playing the middle which is not his position. Oh and by the way the refs sucked again.

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08-28-2012, 07:53 AM	#16
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Questions from texans vs saints game Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper It may not be a "real" game, it may not count in the standings, but still, I want to see tendencies. Especially this season, when there is a completely new defensive system. Watching these preseason games, I can see things that I have not seen in NO in a while, like controlled blitzes, players wrapping their arms around the opponent instead of launching shoulder first, CBs actually contesting balls from the WRs... And when you think about it, would you want to go into the regular season with a new defensive scheme without trying it out first, being able to evaluate which players do better on the new scheme? Or would you want Spagnuolo just to guess who may or may not be a good fit on his scheme and go with that Week 1? And how about the offense? Would you think it is enough for the offense to just practice against the same scheme for 1-2 months, and go straight from that into week 1? Without preseason games, the Saints would not have Lance Moore, or PT, or Ivory, or De La Puente, or Abdul-Quddus, or Galette... You know...I don't care how long they practice before the season starts. I don't care how many people they play, or scrimmage, before they start for real. The only thing I'm complaining about is having to sit down and watch a game on TV that doesn't count. They know I won't be able to resist watching, but with a different type of interest than if it were for real. I just wish I didn't have to agonize through a month of football that doesn't count and stop having to worry that somebody important is going to go down before they start doing it for real. Tobias-Reiper likes this.
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08-28-2012, 10:50 AM	#17
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Questions from texans vs saints game You don't have to watch on TV if you don't want to. No one is forcing you, man. I kind of dig that last preseason game, because it's like a window into a weird alternate universe where Drew Brees was never born and the Saints still suck and the team is still like a hapless comedy act. It brings back memories of when THAT'S what the Saints looked like for real, and keeps me humble. Also it's a huge amount of drama, to watch these young guys play their hearts out and struggle to make the team, with potentially so much future money and fame on the line for them, everything they've worked for and ever dreamed about. A lot of these guys just get one shot at their dreams, and that can be very real to watch. The other thing that's nice about preseason is that they are good games to take young kids to. They get to see Drew Brees and get the vibe of a football game, see the team run out the tunnel and be introduced and warm up and stuff, but then when the kid gets tired they can go home to bed around halftime, and nobody cares about leaving early. One half with a 7 PM kickoff, it's like the perfect length for little kids. I got hooked on it by being taken to preseason games at Tulane Stadium as a little guy.

08-28-2012, 12:00 PM	#18
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Questions from texans vs saints game Originally Posted by Saint_LB You know...I don't care how long they practice before the season starts. I don't care how many people they play, or scrimmage, before they start for real. The only thing I'm complaining about is having to sit down and watch a game on TV that doesn't count. They know I won't be able to resist watching, but with a different type of interest than if it were for real. I just wish I didn't have to agonize through a month of football that doesn't count and stop having to worry that somebody important is going to go down before they start doing it for real. I know what you mean .

08-28-2012, 02:14 PM	#19
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Questions from texans vs saints game Originally Posted by darstep Not really playing full speed, full contact football until gameday seems to show, especially at the crunch point. Other than that we looked good. Once we settle into the season, week 3 or 4, we will be tough to deal with. Once the defense gets it bearings, we are going to take names. The problem is that if we start out losing a couple of close games because of our defense we might have a hard time fighting back without Sean Payton. I want to start out strong and build momentum.

08-29-2012, 09:05 AM	#20
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Questions from texans vs saints game Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Then why didn't you go to the game???? budget dude, budget.... saving it for the regular season. The Texans game is always on every tv here. See you at the Redskins game!