Patrick Robinson

Rugby Saint II · 08-28-2012, 12:45 PM

I don't see it either. In fact I've been disappointed in his play.......mostly his tackling. Dive tackles with his head down just isn't going to cut it. The other guys have all shined a little bit.

Danno · 08-28-2012, 12:50 PM

You guys are playing the "yeah but's".

Deion Sanders is arguably the greatest CB to ever play the game and I promise you every single member of this forum can tackle better than he could, even Saintfan.

A CB's job 1st and foremost is coverage. Patrick Robinson has that covered (pun definitely intended).

jeanpierre · 08-28-2012, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

You guys are playing the "yeah but's".

Deion Sanders is arguably the greatest CB to ever play the game and I promise you every single member of this forum can tackle better than he could, even Saintfan.

A CB's job 1st and foremost is coverage. Patrick Robinson has that covered (pun definitely intended).

Sorry, been caulking my building and wiring my generator...

But agree with how Danno alluded to Sanders; though I can't call him the greatest corner BECAUSE he couldn't tackle, but definitely top five...

If Robinson can "shut down" passing to that side of the field; if Robinson can generate 8-10 interceptions this season; if his coverage has a synergy affect to helping the pass rush; then, I would consider his pick warranted...

Utah_Saint · 08-28-2012, 01:50 PM

I don't mean to down play the importance of tackling, there's nothing more frustrating than watching the other teams running back blow by your corner's weak attempt at an ankle tackle...

but...

Some of the best cover guys in the game are poor tacklers;
Nnamdi Asomugha,
Chris Gamble,
Dominique Rogers-Cromartie
are all poor tacklers,
Profootballforcus rates Asante Samual as the worst tackler in the NFL and even go so far as to call him the gold standard of tackling inefficiency. (ha ha the falcons suck)

It's just really hard to find guys that are fast enough to be good cover guys yet big enough to be good tacklers.

Hopefully Robinson will improve his tackling skills.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...fensive-backs/

The Dude · 08-28-2012, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I didn't see the game or hear anything on it. When i do hear something on him, it has always always been negative.
I really do like what I have read here from y'all who has been watching him. Lets hope this year he can pull what Sharper did for us.

He was owning Andre Johnson for pretty much the whole game. Something that very few CBs in the NFL have been able to do.

TheOak · 08-28-2012, 02:59 PM

Defensive Strategy has changed... Johnson caught 2 balls for 30 yards, one for 19...

new Defense as I have seen it puts more people in the vicinity to assist with tackles.

Cant find the preseason stats for missed catches but Robinson broke a few balls up..

What would I rather... Johnson catch 5 and get tackled or Johnson only catching 2 of 5 because Robinson broke them up..

No brainer.

halloween 65 · 08-28-2012, 04:58 PM

He has improved, still needs work in certain areas of the game, looks better this season so far though, if he takes care of a few areas he could be great!!

foreverfan · 08-28-2012, 06:03 PM

15 lbs of dreads were weighing him down, restricting his vision, and or hearing...

NOPE... Apparently they were hot an stunk.

Stealthman · 08-28-2012, 06:56 PM

1. Good thread; thanks OP.

2. Robinson appears ready to have a great year, and should have 6+ picks.

3. Don't sell the farm, Ma & Pa... cause he ain't All-World just yet.

TheDeuce · 08-28-2012, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

You guys are playing the "yeah but's".

Deion Sanders is arguably the greatest CB to ever play the game and I promise you every single member of this forum can tackle better than he could, even Saintfan.

A CB's job 1st and foremost is coverage. Patrick Robinson has that covered (pun definitely intended).

That sounds like a "yeah but" to me.... he can't tackle, but he's a great cover corner. Plus, I've seen Deion Sanders, and Patrick Robinson is no Deion Sanders in coverage. Jabari Greer is by far the best cover corner on this team.

Look, I really hope that Robinson develops into a complete player this season, but I just don't see it right now. He's young and still learning, so there's still time to improve. But just because coverage is "a CB's job 1st and foremost" doesn't mean tackling isn't a really important part of playing defense.

p.s. - this was a preseason game right?

08-28-2012, 12:45 PM	#11
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: Patrick Robinson I don't see it either. In fact I've been disappointed in his play.......mostly his tackling. Dive tackles with his head down just isn't going to cut it. The other guys have all shined a little bit. TheDeuce likes this.

08-28-2012, 12:50 PM	#12
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Patrick Robinson You guys are playing the "yeah but's". Deion Sanders is arguably the greatest CB to ever play the game and I promise you every single member of this forum can tackle better than he could, even Saintfan. A CB's job 1st and foremost is coverage. Patrick Robinson has that covered (pun definitely intended). dizzle88 likes this.

08-28-2012, 01:39 PM	#13
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Patrick Robinson Originally Posted by Danno You guys are playing the "yeah but's". Deion Sanders is arguably the greatest CB to ever play the game and I promise you every single member of this forum can tackle better than he could, even Saintfan. A CB's job 1st and foremost is coverage. Patrick Robinson has that covered (pun definitely intended). Sorry, been caulking my building and wiring my generator... But agree with how Danno alluded to Sanders; though I can't call him the greatest corner BECAUSE he couldn't tackle, but definitely top five... If Robinson can "shut down" passing to that side of the field; if Robinson can generate 8-10 interceptions this season; if his coverage has a synergy affect to helping the pass rush; then, I would consider his pick warranted...

08-28-2012, 01:50 PM	#14
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Patrick Robinson I don't mean to down play the importance of tackling, there's nothing more frustrating than watching the other teams running back blow by your corner's weak attempt at an ankle tackle... but... Some of the best cover guys in the game are poor tacklers; Nnamdi Asomugha, Chris Gamble, Dominique Rogers-Cromartie are all poor tacklers, Profootballforcus rates Asante Samual as the worst tackler in the NFL and even go so far as to call him the gold standard of tackling inefficiency. (ha ha the falcons suck) It's just really hard to find guys that are fast enough to be good cover guys yet big enough to be good tacklers. Hopefully Robinson will improve his tackling skills. http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...fensive-backs/ Danno likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Patrick Robinson Originally Posted by Ashley I didn't see the game or hear anything on it. When i do hear something on him, it has always always been negative. I really do like what I have read here from y'all who has been watching him. Lets hope this year he can pull what Sharper did for us. He was owning Andre Johnson for pretty much the whole game. Something that very few CBs in the NFL have been able to do. Ashley likes this.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Re: Patrick Robinson Defensive Strategy has changed... Johnson caught 2 balls for 30 yards, one for 19... new Defense as I have seen it puts more people in the vicinity to assist with tackles. Cant find the preseason stats for missed catches but Robinson broke a few balls up.. What would I rather... Johnson catch 5 and get tackled or Johnson only catching 2 of 5 because Robinson broke them up.. No brainer.

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Stealthman B&G StaffWriter Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 382	Re: Patrick Robinson 1. Good thread; thanks OP. 2. Robinson appears ready to have a great year, and should have 6+ picks. 3. Don't sell the farm, Ma & Pa... cause he ain't All-World just yet.

08-28-2012, 08:46 PM	#20
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Patrick Robinson Originally Posted by Danno You guys are playing the "yeah but's". Deion Sanders is arguably the greatest CB to ever play the game and I promise you every single member of this forum can tackle better than he could, even Saintfan. A CB's job 1st and foremost is coverage. Patrick Robinson has that covered (pun definitely intended). That sounds like a "yeah but" to me.... he can't tackle, but he's a great cover corner. Plus, I've seen Deion Sanders, and Patrick Robinson is no Deion Sanders in coverage. Jabari Greer is by far the best cover corner on this team. Look, I really hope that Robinson develops into a complete player this season, but I just don't see it right now. He's young and still learning, so there's still time to improve. But just because coverage is "a CB's job 1st and foremost" doesn't mean tackling isn't a really important part of playing defense. p.s. - this was a preseason game right?
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