Trade Bait

4thqtrsaint · 08-28-2012, 07:13 PM

Realistically, Detroit wouldn't offer anything that would be worth losing Cadet or Ivory... Unless the Saints have already made up their minds about cutting one or the other. If the plan is to keep them both, then I'd say no.

As this team has seen, injuries can come in bunches... Ingram and PT go down for example, then I feel great with Sproles, Ivory and Cadet in a rotation. A 6th or 7th round pick won't make me feel any better if that scenario played out.

WhoDat!656 · 08-28-2012, 08:45 PM

The Saints lost Ingram against the Texans when he shouldn't have been playing, and we lost PT against 40-whiners last year.

The domino effect was that Sproles was taken off KO/PT return duties and a rusty player, (Joe Morgan) was inserted with disastrous results.

Although no one can predict when or if a player will be lost to injury, it may be in the Saints best interest to keep all 5, and then use Tusk or Cadet as trade bait later in the season.

The Steelers are another team that needs a RB; I don't know if they have any players the Saints would be interested in.

jeanpierre · 08-28-2012, 10:08 PM

Detroit already has Joique Bell - remember him?

But a RB will have to be traded - we must get value...

An Offensive Tackle or Safety would be nice...

Rugby Saint II · 08-28-2012, 10:28 PM

We won't get value for either.

Budsdrinker · 08-29-2012, 12:20 AM

Why would anybody want to offer a trade when they know we have to cut someone. We would have to keep them both and cut someone else to remotely have a chance at a trade and then I still don't see it happening.

SaintsBro · 08-29-2012, 12:26 AM

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but nobody else in the NFL cares who the hell these people are. Cadet, Ivory, these guys are undrafted free agent dudes from small schools that nobody else has ever heard of, with tiny track records, no one cares a tiny bit about either of them, every other team has their own group of camp beast running backs, and as hard as it is for some Saints fans to realize, Cadet and Ivory have NO VALUE in trade in the real world. It's just part of doing business with the great front office we have. Nobody wants these guys, no one knows who they are, but we see it inside them and that's what makes them special.

FinSaint · 08-29-2012, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but nobody else in the NFL cares who the hell these people are. Cadet, Ivory, these guys are undrafted free agent dudes from small schools that nobody else has ever heard of, with tiny track records, no one cares a tiny bit about either of them, every other team has their own group of camp beast running backs, and as hard as it is for some Saints fans to realize, Cadet and Ivory have NO VALUE in trade in the real world. It's just part of doing business with the great front office we have. Nobody wants these guys, no one knows who they are, but we see it inside them and that's what makes them special.

I disagree. Every single team in the NFL have guys watching every single game by other teams in the preseason and they have their own "need positions" for which they try to scout potential players for.

If a team needing a RB doesn't know who both Ivory and Cadet are... well then somebody within that team hasn't been doing their jobs.

Believe me that there are probably 15 teams waiting to see if the Saints cut Cadet, and that is why a team would potentially give up a draft pick in a trade for either one of these guys, so that they won't have to battle with the other teams over the guys signature once he would be cut.

AlaskaSaints · 08-29-2012, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by SaintPauly

I think Cadet is going to be a stud. A healthy version of Ivory. If we trade anyone, as much as I love him, it's gotta be Ivory.

STOP IT!

"Mommy, Pauly hit me!!!"

;-]]]

Alaska

mutineer10 · 08-29-2012, 02:32 AM

It's a busy couple of weeks for teams right now. Lousy time for trades, everybody is waiting to drop / add.

The Dude · 08-29-2012, 03:05 AM

Trade for what exactly? A draft pick makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. We would only get a late round pick for them. Why gamble on picking someone with that pick just to hope they pan out. We already know what Cadet and Ivory can do, and thats way more than we are going to get out of ****ty draft pick. I can guarantee you if either of these guys gets cut they aren't even going to sniff the practice squad. Someone will pick them up like a free hooker in a prison. This is why I think we keep both. If we are going to make a trade, do it later in the season if someone gets injured.

08-28-2012, 07:13 PM	#11
4thqtrsaint 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 103	Re: Trade Bait Realistically, Detroit wouldn't offer anything that would be worth losing Cadet or Ivory... Unless the Saints have already made up their minds about cutting one or the other. If the plan is to keep them both, then I'd say no. As this team has seen, injuries can come in bunches... Ingram and PT go down for example, then I feel great with Sproles, Ivory and Cadet in a rotation. A 6th or 7th round pick won't make me feel any better if that scenario played out.
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08-28-2012, 08:45 PM	#12
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Re: Trade Bait The Saints lost Ingram against the Texans when he shouldn't have been playing, and we lost PT against 40-whiners last year. The domino effect was that Sproles was taken off KO/PT return duties and a rusty player, (Joe Morgan) was inserted with disastrous results. Although no one can predict when or if a player will be lost to injury, it may be in the Saints best interest to keep all 5, and then use Tusk or Cadet as trade bait later in the season. The Steelers are another team that needs a RB; I don't know if they have any players the Saints would be interested in.
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08-28-2012, 10:08 PM	#13
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Trade Bait Detroit already has Joique Bell - remember him? But a RB will have to be traded - we must get value... An Offensive Tackle or Safety would be nice...

08-28-2012, 10:28 PM	#14
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Trade Bait We won't get value for either.

08-29-2012, 12:20 AM	#15
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Trade Bait Why would anybody want to offer a trade when they know we have to cut someone. We would have to keep them both and cut someone else to remotely have a chance at a trade and then I still don't see it happening.

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08-29-2012, 12:26 AM	#16
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade Bait I hate to be the one to tell you this, but nobody else in the NFL cares who the hell these people are. Cadet, Ivory, these guys are undrafted free agent dudes from small schools that nobody else has ever heard of, with tiny track records, no one cares a tiny bit about either of them, every other team has their own group of camp beast running backs, and as hard as it is for some Saints fans to realize, Cadet and Ivory have NO VALUE in trade in the real world. It's just part of doing business with the great front office we have. Nobody wants these guys, no one knows who they are, but we see it inside them and that's what makes them special. AlaskaSaints and The Dude like this.

08-29-2012, 12:55 AM	#17
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Trade Bait Originally Posted by SaintsBro I hate to be the one to tell you this, but nobody else in the NFL cares who the hell these people are. Cadet, Ivory, these guys are undrafted free agent dudes from small schools that nobody else has ever heard of, with tiny track records, no one cares a tiny bit about either of them, every other team has their own group of camp beast running backs, and as hard as it is for some Saints fans to realize, Cadet and Ivory have NO VALUE in trade in the real world. It's just part of doing business with the great front office we have. Nobody wants these guys, no one knows who they are, but we see it inside them and that's what makes them special. I disagree. Every single team in the NFL have guys watching every single game by other teams in the preseason and they have their own "need positions" for which they try to scout potential players for. If a team needing a RB doesn't know who both Ivory and Cadet are... well then somebody within that team hasn't been doing their jobs. Believe me that there are probably 15 teams waiting to see if the Saints cut Cadet, and that is why a team would potentially give up a draft pick in a trade for either one of these guys, so that they won't have to battle with the other teams over the guys signature once he would be cut.
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08-29-2012, 01:34 AM	#18
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Trade Bait Originally Posted by SaintPauly I think Cadet is going to be a stud. A healthy version of Ivory. If we trade anyone, as much as I love him, it's gotta be Ivory. STOP IT! "Mommy, Pauly hit me!!!" ;-]]] Alaska SaintPauly likes this.

08-29-2012, 02:32 AM	#19
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Re: Trade Bait It's a busy couple of weeks for teams right now. Lousy time for trades, everybody is waiting to drop / add.

08-29-2012, 03:05 AM	#20
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Trade Bait Trade for what exactly? A draft pick makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. We would only get a late round pick for them. Why gamble on picking someone with that pick just to hope they pan out. We already know what Cadet and Ivory can do, and thats way more than we are going to get out of ****ty draft pick. I can guarantee you if either of these guys gets cut they aren't even going to sniff the practice squad. Someone will pick them up like a free hooker in a prison. This is why I think we keep both. If we are going to make a trade, do it later in the season if someone gets injured.
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