Saints show confidence in rookie DT Hicks

FinSaint · 08-29-2012, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

I think Hicks got lucky to come in the same year as Spags. If anyone can help Hicks hit the top tier, i'm bettin' it'll be Spags. In fact I'm thinkin' he could coach that whole crew up a couple levels. I'm not sure Spags is really head coach material though. Him leaving at the end of the year to do that isn't the given I'm hearing so often from the talking heads.

Spags himself said in an earlier interview that his ultimate career goal for the future hasn't changed and it's to get another shot at being a HC, so I think that if the right opportunity would present itself he'd be more than intrigued.

FinSaint · 08-29-2012, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Yeah I was just thinging about that. How have old Ellis looked during preseason?

He looked really good in the HOF game and almost made a tackle for a safety, but he did take Kolb out of the game with a clean tackle.

That HOF game was a good one, but unfortunately the games following it haven't been as impressing, pretty much more of the same old with a little more penetration, but zero run defense.

FinSaint · 08-29-2012, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

If Hicks makes the breakthrough this season it leaves the Saints with a impressive pair of tackles.
6'2 300lb+ monster in Bunkley and
6'5 320 Hicks.
They should take a few double teams to stop them and Hicks height on the line hopefully will results in a few batted passes.

And maybe even more so than Bunkley, TJ is 6-3 and 288 and the Walker kid is 6-3 and 294 - at least as far as height goes anyway.

Rugby Saint II · 08-29-2012, 01:27 PM

Can you believe it? Our first draft pick seems to be working out.

Utah_Saint · 08-29-2012, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

I think Hicks got lucky to come in the same year as Spags. If anyone can help Hicks hit the top tier, i'm bettin' it'll be Spags. In fact I'm thinkin' he could coach that whole crew up a couple levels. I'm not sure Spags is really head coach material though. Him leaving at the end of the year to do that isn't the given I'm hearing so often from the talking heads.

Exactly. Early on in camp, one of the d-linemen (think it was Big Sed but I'm not sure) said that for the last couple years, they've felt like the forgotten unit but that's changed in Spags defense and he likes the emphasis on the d-line. I'm paraphrasing of course.

When you think of the first round draft picks that're on that line, Smith, Ellis and Jordan, you gotta imagine that with good coaching and all that talent, there's the potential for some serious improvement overall.

Seer1 · 08-29-2012, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Spags himself said in an earlier interview that his ultimate career goal for the future hasn't changed and it's to get another shot at being a HC, so I think that if the right opportunity would present itself he'd be more than intrigued.

I guess I'm more thinking the other end of the hiring spectrum. He'd be about the last of the Saint coaches I'd put in as HC. Of course if I owned the Falclowns.....

FinSaint · 08-29-2012, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

I guess I'm more thinking the other end of the hiring spectrum. He'd be about the last of the Saint coaches I'd put in as HC. Of course if I owned the Falclowns.....

True, but lets say the Saints went to the SB where they faced f.e. the Patriots, and Spags was able to once again totally suffocate their offense - that would be a big thing from a defense that has been less than stellar in both the regular and post seasons during the last couple of years, and Spags would have another ring to boot.

In that scenario, I wouldn't find it at all surprising that a team looking for a defensively inclined HC would make Spags their primary offseason target.

jeanpierre · 08-29-2012, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Can you believe it? Our first draft pick seems to be working out.

Yes, but...it wasn't in the first round.

Seer1 · 08-29-2012, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

True, but lets say the Saints went to the SB where they faced f.e. the Patriots, and Spags was able to once again totally suffocate their offense - that would be a big thing from a defense that has been less than stellar in both the regular and post seasons during the last couple of years, and Spags would have another ring to boot.

In that scenario, I wouldn't find it at all surprising that a team looking for a defensively inclined HC would make Spags their primary offseason target.

Oh I hear you. Jeez, I mean Norv Turner's still a head coach and if he can stick around anyone has a chance. JJ'd probably give him a try. I just don't think he's really cut out to be HC.

08-29-2012, 08:34 AM	#11
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Saints show confidence in rookie DT Hicks Originally Posted by Seer1 I think Hicks got lucky to come in the same year as Spags. If anyone can help Hicks hit the top tier, i'm bettin' it'll be Spags. In fact I'm thinkin' he could coach that whole crew up a couple levels. I'm not sure Spags is really head coach material though. Him leaving at the end of the year to do that isn't the given I'm hearing so often from the talking heads. Spags himself said in an earlier interview that his ultimate career goal for the future hasn't changed and it's to get another shot at being a HC, so I think that if the right opportunity would present itself he'd be more than intrigued.

08-29-2012, 08:36 AM	#12
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Saints show confidence in rookie DT Hicks Originally Posted by Crusader Yeah I was just thinging about that. How have old Ellis looked during preseason? He looked really good in the HOF game and almost made a tackle for a safety, but he did take Kolb out of the game with a clean tackle. That HOF game was a good one, but unfortunately the games following it haven't been as impressing, pretty much more of the same old with a little more penetration, but zero run defense.

08-29-2012, 08:39 AM	#13
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Saints show confidence in rookie DT Hicks Originally Posted by lee909 If Hicks makes the breakthrough this season it leaves the Saints with a impressive pair of tackles. 6'2 300lb+ monster in Bunkley and 6'5 320 Hicks. They should take a few double teams to stop them and Hicks height on the line hopefully will results in a few batted passes. And maybe even more so than Bunkley, TJ is 6-3 and 288 and the Walker kid is 6-3 and 294 - at least as far as height goes anyway.

08-29-2012, 01:27 PM	#14
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08-29-2012, 07:54 PM	#15
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Saints show confidence in rookie DT Hicks Originally Posted by Seer1 I think Hicks got lucky to come in the same year as Spags. If anyone can help Hicks hit the top tier, i'm bettin' it'll be Spags. In fact I'm thinkin' he could coach that whole crew up a couple levels. I'm not sure Spags is really head coach material though. Him leaving at the end of the year to do that isn't the given I'm hearing so often from the talking heads. Exactly. Early on in camp, one of the d-linemen (think it was Big Sed but I'm not sure) said that for the last couple years, they've felt like the forgotten unit but that's changed in Spags defense and he likes the emphasis on the d-line. I'm paraphrasing of course. When you think of the first round draft picks that're on that line, Smith, Ellis and Jordan, you gotta imagine that with good coaching and all that talent, there's the potential for some serious improvement overall.

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08-29-2012, 08:02 PM	#16
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Saints show confidence in rookie DT Hicks Originally Posted by FinSaint Spags himself said in an earlier interview that his ultimate career goal for the future hasn't changed and it's to get another shot at being a HC, so I think that if the right opportunity would present itself he'd be more than intrigued. I guess I'm more thinking the other end of the hiring spectrum. He'd be about the last of the Saint coaches I'd put in as HC. Of course if I owned the Falclowns.....

08-29-2012, 10:40 PM	#17
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Saints show confidence in rookie DT Hicks Originally Posted by Seer1 I guess I'm more thinking the other end of the hiring spectrum. He'd be about the last of the Saint coaches I'd put in as HC. Of course if I owned the Falclowns..... True, but lets say the Saints went to the SB where they faced f.e. the Patriots, and Spags was able to once again totally suffocate their offense - that would be a big thing from a defense that has been less than stellar in both the regular and post seasons during the last couple of years, and Spags would have another ring to boot. In that scenario, I wouldn't find it at all surprising that a team looking for a defensively inclined HC would make Spags their primary offseason target.

08-29-2012, 10:54 PM	#18
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints show confidence in rookie DT Hicks Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Can you believe it? Our first draft pick seems to be working out. Yes, but...it wasn't in the first round. Seer1 likes this.

08-29-2012, 11:00 PM	#19
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Saints show confidence in rookie DT Hicks Originally Posted by FinSaint True, but lets say the Saints went to the SB where they faced f.e. the Patriots, and Spags was able to once again totally suffocate their offense - that would be a big thing from a defense that has been less than stellar in both the regular and post seasons during the last couple of years, and Spags would have another ring to boot. In that scenario, I wouldn't find it at all surprising that a team looking for a defensively inclined HC would make Spags their primary offseason target. Oh I hear you. Jeez, I mean Norv Turner's still a head coach and if he can stick around anyone has a chance. JJ'd probably give him a try. I just don't think he's really cut out to be HC.