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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by GoofySaint Why are you taking it so literally? Using the original term for dynasty to prove your argument is like saying that a "sack" in football is when someone hits the qb with a sack of potatoes. ...

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Old 09-03-2012, 06:09 AM   #1
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Re: Will the Saints have a dynasty before Brees retires?

Originally Posted by GoofySaint View Post
Why are you taking it so literally?

Using the original term for dynasty to prove your argument is like saying that a "sack" in football is when someone hits the qb with a sack of potatoes.

It's not even just yahoo.

NFL network
Analysts
coaches
players

Nfl network even had the top 10 dynasties on their top 10 show.


You could easily say that the entire time period that the steelers have existed is their "era" if you just go out and say "As soon as you slap a time period on it, it becomes an era".

Time period = the time the steelers were founded to now.

So technically every team had an era.
Ok Goofy.. I am not quoting an 8 page diatribe or replying to this thread after this.. here goes for my amusement and your education.

1. Definitions are literal... Define is the root word, look up the definition of define.

2. No you cant define the existence of the Steelers an Era... Please re-read the definition provides of "Era".. DEFINED period... By "now" do you mean when you clicked post or when I am reading it... See, that is not clearly defined and this is getting paradoxical.

3. NFL Network... Analysts... Yaada Yaada,... You mean the same group of people that participate in a vote on who is going to be the best player in an "upcoming season"? Most of their discussions are for ratings, not reality.

4. And this covers everything else... Ben is not an elite QB only people north of I-10 think so. Underdog is meaning less... it just shows that the pundits and people like your self think the AFC is the dominant conference.


Not sure when you became a Saints fan, but what you are not necessarily seeing is that we the Saints fans... do not necessarily care to be thought of as a dynasty. We like being the under dog, off the radar, we like shoveling the sh1t that the talking heads spew back into their face.

Again... Roethlisberger, Flacco, P. Manning are not elite QB's. Manning was but has yet to prove he is still that. You may consider them Elite... My bar is much higher.


Where your discussions lead most of us to stop reading is when you flip flop justifications... One minute its Super Bowls that justify... the next minutes its a statement of an analyst on NFL.com... Words like "we", "Us"... denotes opinion, not fact.

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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Old 09-02-2012, 06:53 AM   #2
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Re: Will the Saints have a dynasty before Brees retires?

Come on Fin... We all no you no nothing. Know what I mean?

English is not the native language of most Americans.

When he says "we" like he does I keep imagining a line much like I10/I12 and "we" constitutes everyone north.
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Old 09-02-2012, 06:01 PM   #3
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Come on Fin... We all no you no nothing. Know what I mean?

English is not the native language of most Americans.

When he says "we" like he does I keep imagining a line much like I10/I12 and "we" constitutes everyone north.

When I say WE. I meant the rulebook. Are you saying you call it something other than a sack?

And I wasn't referring to his nationality.

Also I disagree with your claim that all afc qbs except brady are just "good".

I consider big Ben
Peyton manning(I think he'll make a comeback).
to be elite

3 Elite afc qbs in afc
manning
ben
brady

3 elite nfc qbs

eli manning
Drew
Rodgers

Not that bad.

I also consider joe flacco
andrew luck
as having a future of elite status

It should also be mention that even though the nfc has won most of the last super bowls, they have still always been the underdogs

Giants=underdogs
packers=underdogs
saints=underdogs
cardinals=underdogs
giants again=underdogs
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Old 09-02-2012, 05:01 PM   #4
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I have a question. Are the NY Giants a dynasty?
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Old 09-02-2012, 06:11 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by NOLA54 View Post
I have a question. Are the NY Giants a dynasty?
If they had got one more ring in the next 5 years?

Yes they would be a dynasty.

If we got 2 rings in the next 7, so would we.
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Re: Will the Saints have a dynasty before Brees retires?

I'm hopeful, but it's so hard to win even one title that I can't say we'll become a dynasty. Let's just try to get number two first.
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good Lord.
and silly cartoon faces too.
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good Lord.
and silly cartoon faces too.
C'mon man, the silly cartoon faces are the best part.
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:25 AM   #9
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I just don't even like the word, because the only people I've ever heard mention it were either ridiculous sports commentators, people who are insecure and desperately want their team to be one, or arrogant fans of the Cowboys/Steelers/49ers who are living completely in the past. Those are the only ones I hear doing the dynasty talk. One other thing about it is that you can't really say your own team is a dynasty, while it is going on, that sounds ridiculous.It sorta has to be conferred on you by others. With all the "dynasty" teams, part of the definition of a dynasty we are talking about is that it's typically over, and I don't want it to be over for the current Saints. Ever.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:14 PM   #10
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"Can't we all just get along?"
Gonna be tough, defense will have to improve ASAP. We have the personnel offensively, but I'm not sure Spag's has all he needs in place to make it happen. A "Superbowl First" winning ring at home wouldn't hurt, especially to all the hater's and naysayers.
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