GoofySaint

A dynasty implies rise and fall.

A team rules for an era, then stops and we move on to the next era.
The only way for a team to "rule" would be to win rings so it just makes sense.
It has nothing to do with the "franchise".

The browns always do bad but there franchise itself still exists. It doesn't fall.

In order for a franchise to CONTINUE RISING. Terry bradshaw and every steeler that played in the 70s would have to STILL BE PLAYING NOW the same way. lol.

We don't call the steelers a dynasty. We call the 70s steelers a dynasty. We can't call the organization a dynasty because no organization is perfect. And even then we still can't call it a dynasty because every dynasty eventually falls so it would to be called something.

TheOak

You have it backwards.

The Steelers are a dynasty.

The 70's Steelers was an era

e·ra/ˈi(ə)rə/

Noun:

• A long and distinct period of history with a particular feature or characteristic.
• A system of chronology dating from a particular noteworthy event.

You cant start redefining words to suit what "yall" call something. As far as for some yahoo changing the definition of dynasty so he can have talking points about his team... I am not on board with it. As soon as you slap a time period on it, it becomes an era.

GoofySaint

Why are you taking it so literally?

Using the original term for dynasty to prove your argument is like saying that a "sack" in football is when someone hits the qb with a sack of potatoes.

It's not even just yahoo.

NFL network
Analysts
coaches
players

Nfl network even had the top 10 dynasties on their top 10 show.


You could easily say that the entire time period that the steelers have existed is their "era" if you just go out and say "As soon as you slap a time period on it, it becomes an era".

Time period = the time the steelers were founded to now.

So technically every team had an era.

TheOak

Ok Goofy.. I am not quoting an 8 page diatribe or replying to this thread after this.. here goes for my amusement and your education.

1. Definitions are literal... Define is the root word, look up the definition of define.

2. No you cant define the existence of the Steelers an Era... Please re-read the definition provides of "Era".. DEFINED period... By "now" do you mean when you clicked post or when I am reading it... See, that is not clearly defined and this is getting paradoxical.

3. NFL Network... Analysts... Yaada Yaada,... You mean the same group of people that participate in a vote on who is going to be the best player in an "upcoming season"? Most of their discussions are for ratings, not reality.

4. And this covers everything else... Ben is not an elite QB only people north of I-10 think so. Underdog is meaning less... it just shows that the pundits and people like your self think the AFC is the dominant conference.


Not sure when you became a Saints fan, but what you are not necessarily seeing is that we the Saints fans... do not necessarily care to be thought of as a dynasty. We like being the under dog, off the radar, we like shoveling the sh1t that the talking heads spew back into their face.

Again... Roethlisberger, Flacco, P. Manning are not elite QB's. Manning was but has yet to prove he is still that. You may consider them Elite... My bar is much higher.


Where your discussions lead most of us to stop reading is when you flip flop justifications... One minute its Super Bowls that justify... the next minutes its a statement of an analyst on NFL.com... Words like "we", "Us"... denotes opinion, not fact.

GoofySaint

1. "Definitions are literal"

Yes which is why I never asked you to use definitions. Dynasty is an unofficial term. The more you pretend to use the "definition = this" argument, the more ignorant you sound because all it tells me is you're not even reading what I'm saying.

2. NFL Network... Analysts... Yaada Yaada,... You mean the same group of people that participate in a vote on who is going to be the best player in an "upcoming season"?

No I mean the people who have more to their argument than going off topic by bringing up "the definition of definition" or THE AFC and if you actually read my post, you'd know that I also mentioned players and coaches. Coaches and players don't care about NFL networks "ratings".

"Most of their discussions are for ratings, not reality."

And who are you? You're being overly aggressive and angry for no reason at all. It's pathetic.


"Underdog is meaning less... it just shows that the pundits and people like your self think the AFC is the dominant conference. "

Lol. Somebody is a little aggressive.

1. No I don't think the AFC is dominant. I just don't consider the NFC to be MORE dominant.

2. "And this covers everything else... Ben is not an elite QB only people north of I-10 think so."

If you're gonna be so technical about this then you're ignorant by saying THAT NOT ONE PERSON south considers BEN elite.

3. You''re pathetic. I never said Flacco was elite NOW.

So everybody but Brees, brady is not elite?

Peyton Manning = 4 time MVP when he had NOBODY around him(evidenced by the 2-14 colts last year).

Steelers had a crippled defense,running game, and 1 good receiver.
Big ben was still able to send them to the super bowl and then go 12-4 WHILE INJURED. He beat kurt warner in a QB battle in the super bowl. I should also mention that that ben has been hurt like 80% of his career.

Eli Manning blewout both rodgers and Brady(QBs who you consider better).

He beat the #1 defense.

Eli WAS? What? The season hasn't even started yet. Take the black and gold shades off and wake up.




"Not sure when you became a Saints fan, but what you are not necessarily seeing is that we the Saints fans... do not necessarily care to be thought of as a dynasty. We like being the under dog, off the radar, we like shoveling the sh1t that the talking heads spew back into their face."

Yeah I'm sure that's the same crap the steelers said in the 60s, or the 9ers in the 70s. Or the pats before the 2000s.

Not sure if you're an actual saints fan but if you would stop living in your own little world for just a few minutes you'd realize that the who dat nation doesn't revolve around you.

4.There's a dozen saints fans in this same thread who would LIKE for us to get a dynasty. You can still be an underdog and get a dynasty(the patriots did it). Stop saying "being thought of as a dynasty".

There is no "being thought of".

3-4 super bowls=dynasty.
It's an unofficial term yeah but if you cared about taking things officially, you would be believing that the saints had a full blown bounty system.


"Where your discussions lead most of us to stop reading is when you flip flop justifications... One minute its Super Bowls that justify... the next minutes its a statement of an analyst on NFL.com... Words like "we", "Us"... denotes opinion, not fact."

Honestly just stop. I'm THIS close to reporting you.

You've done nothing but ignore my posts.
Twist my words.
Just plain make up stuff.
And insult me and my character.

"Most of us to stop reading...."

You mean 2 people? That's not most of us. Just because there's a few spoiled apples doesn't mean I should let you spoil the other ones. We're just gonna forget the 15 OTHER PEOPLE I've been talking too? NO BECAUSE YOUR OPINION IS ALL THAT MATTERS.




"One minute its Super Bowls that justify... the next minutes its a statement of an analyst on NFL.com... Words like "we", "Us"... denotes opinion, not fact."

At least I'm coming up with sources. All you've done is disregard everything I typed to because you can't get over your own ego(which is funny cause that's what you accuse dynasties of being). Now you just rage quit?

No I never referred to NFL.com. I referred to NFL network.

I used the network as a source for where the term "sports dynasty" came from.
You would know this if you didn't just skim through my posts.

Where's your source that refers to the term "era" in sports that's used exactly as dynasty is used?

The more you use the literal definitions or use root words, the more ignorant you sound.

I've told you time and time again that "dynasty" is a subjective, unofficial term but you just sat in your own little world. STOP USING IT OBJECTIVELY.

No root words, no core definitions. Saying dynasty objectively is like saying the steelers were a powerful chinese kingdom. Stop nitpicking around it with this "era" crap. Era doesn't apply here because we're talking about subjective words.

I used WE and US when I was referring to sacks. Are you saying you call it something other than a sack? It's fact that hitting the QB is called a sack. Stop making stuff up.
God it's like talking to a tree.


"My bar is much higher."

You mean anybody with a fleur de lis on their jersey?


"but what you are not necessarily seeing is that WE the Saints fans... "

Oh don't make me laugh. You don't even live in LA. Don't make fun of me cause cause I live in PA when you're living in Texas which is Dallas cowboys heaven right now. You're not a hardcore fan one bit.



WE! Here you are using the "we" after telling me to stop. Hypocrite.