SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED

09-07-2012, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Kosoma

i think the judge still has to rule on the panel reccomendation by sunday. we will still have to deal with suspensions for having a player pool. but this is a huge step in the truth coming out.
goodell better bring a private chef with him to new orleans or get used to spit in all of his food. he will be hard pressed to get a spit free meal anywhere in the city.

According to the CBA players cannot be suspended for a P4P.

spkb25 · 09-07-2012, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

This may cost him his job.

God that would be great

spkb25 · 09-07-2012, 06:21 PM

Heads up, Roger

Rugby Saint II · 09-07-2012, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Danno! Breakin da news! The news breaker! The break-a-roon-oh! The break-ins-ski! The news man!

Breaking news..........now here's Danno.

homerj07 · 09-07-2012, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Yep, Payton Loomis and Vitt are sure to follow with some sort of appeal or legal action.

This all happened because of the NFLPA

The coaches are not members of the players association & the NFL does not have stringent rules in dealing with them.

They may be able to go to federal court BUT with the audio from GW I would say the coaches are screwed!!

OldMaid · 09-07-2012, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

I posted this before, and I am not a big conspiracy theorist, but I can't help but think that the NFL "hinted" to the panel they needed to reach this conclusion. This conclusion can help Goodell save face, saying he did what he could in the name of player safety, but he will abide by the process set forth by the CBA, all the while avoiding the NFL's "evidence" to be made public, because I firmly believe that the "evidence" either proves all teams had a money pool going, or that the "evidence" is fabricated. Either way, it would be extremely bad for the league.

Goodell was so steadfast that this was it and his decision was made. Fianl. Done. Suspension. Bye.

I agree with you and others.
Soooo, perhaps, reading between the lines, yes, behind closed doors there was most likely more to this story the public will not know about. Sounds like the part of cases where parties settle for disclosed sum, sealed records on things.

homerj07 · 09-07-2012, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Maybe it was this!!!!

I'll Rochambeau you for it!!!

alexonfyre · 09-07-2012, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

According to the CBA players cannot be suspended for a P4P.

P4P is also in exclusive jurisdiction of system arbitration. So RG can NOT under any circumstances (barring the CBA becoming void) rule on that issue. The suspensions have been entirely based on "conduct detrimental" so Goodell can impose the same penalties immediately with "proof" of a bounty scheme.

Thankfully Judge Berrigan has said she will not rule on the case "at this moment" which means that she is probably reserving her ruling on the other case pending Goodell's redetermination. This will hopefully keep Goodell in check as he issues new punishments, but will more likely lead to a settlement on all fronts.

Source: https://twitter.com/sportslawguy

TheOak · 09-07-2012, 06:31 PM

TheOak · 09-07-2012, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

.. yeah, more like 49,820

As I understand it, he can't re-frame anything. I understood from the ruling that he cannot bunch up pay for performance and pay to injure in one, so he is now going to have to define the very instances of pay to injure, which would mean not only that the 49,820 slide deck would have to be made public, but his sources as well. He will have to be transparent the next time around.

He can call it "conduct detrimental" and issue the same suspensions.

Brennagen can come behind him and say everything was mishandled and vacate everything... But she does. It want to do that.

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09-07-2012, 06:21 PM	#142
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: BREAKING- SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED??? Originally Posted by Danno This may cost him his job. God that would be great

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED Heads up, Roger

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED Originally Posted by saintfan Danno! Breakin da news! The news breaker! The break-a-roon-oh! The break-ins-ski! The news man! Breaking news..........now here's Danno.

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09-07-2012, 06:25 PM	#146
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	Re: BREAKING- SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED??? Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper I posted this before, and I am not a big conspiracy theorist, but I can't help but think that the NFL "hinted" to the panel they needed to reach this conclusion. This conclusion can help Goodell save face, saying he did what he could in the name of player safety, but he will abide by the process set forth by the CBA, all the while avoiding the NFL's "evidence" to be made public, because I firmly believe that the "evidence" either proves all teams had a money pool going, or that the "evidence" is fabricated. Either way, it would be extremely bad for the league. Goodell was so steadfast that this was it and his decision was made. Fianl. Done. Suspension. Bye. I agree with you and others. Soooo, perhaps, reading between the lines, yes, behind closed doors there was most likely more to this story the public will not know about. Sounds like the part of cases where parties settle for disclosed sum, sealed records on things.

09-07-2012, 06:26 PM	#147
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: BREAKING- SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED??? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Maybe it was this!!!! I'll Rochambeau you for it!!!

09-07-2012, 06:31 PM	#148
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Re: SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED Originally Posted by NonieT According to the CBA players cannot be suspended for a P4P. P4P is also in exclusive jurisdiction of system arbitration. So RG can NOT under any circumstances (barring the CBA becoming void) rule on that issue. The suspensions have been entirely based on "conduct detrimental" so Goodell can impose the same penalties immediately with "proof" of a bounty scheme. Thankfully Judge Berrigan has said she will not rule on the case "at this moment" which means that she is probably reserving her ruling on the other case pending Goodell's redetermination. This will hopefully keep Goodell in check as he issues new punishments, but will more likely lead to a settlement on all fronts. Source: https://twitter.com/sportslawguy

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09-07-2012, 06:35 PM	#150
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper .. yeah, more like 49,820 As I understand it, he can't re-frame anything. I understood from the ruling that he cannot bunch up pay for performance and pay to injure in one, so he is now going to have to define the very instances of pay to injure, which would mean not only that the 49,820 slide deck would have to be made public, but his sources as well. He will have to be transparent the next time around. He can call it "conduct detrimental" and issue the same suspensions. Brennagen can come behind him and say everything was mishandled and vacate everything... But she does. It want to do that.

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