SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED

FinSaint · 09-07-2012, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Oh snap! Can we afford Vilma? His salary didn't count against the cap this year, now it does.

Yeah, it's not a problem, because Vilma and the Saints re-negotiated his contract earlier in the year and made it consist mostly of bonuses which are guaranteed, so those already counted toward the cap even with the suspension. Vilma's base salary was "only" little less than $2M if I remember correctly, and that is the only thing that will be added to the salary cap.

It's the same with Smith, his re-negotiated contract had only a $800K base salary, so the Saints only have to add $200K to their cap because of him not being suspended for the 4 games.

Now, other things that have affected the reported $8.2M the Saints still had left on the cap are the couple of DB moves they made. Rafael Bush has a $465K cap hit whereas Amaya, who Bush replaced, had a $540K cap hit. And I don't know what Marquis Johnson's cap hit was, but I suspect it was more than the $490K cap hit that Jerome Murphy has. Also, there's the cap hit of Elbert Mack, who was cut to make room for Murphy, before Johnson's injury settlement was announced.

So, all in all, the Saints' cap is looking better than I would've expected with all the moves the FO made this offseason - you gotta love the cap massaging Loomis has done once again.

ScottyRo · 09-07-2012, 03:06 PM

While this does not directly affect the coaches and GM, I think this does give Benson more ammo to go back to Goodell and ask again to reduce their suspensions. There were clearly rules broken, but my position all along regarding the suspensions has been that they are too harsh and don't fit the crimes.

Hopefully, this will deflate his enormous ego enough to at least consider it.

TheOak · 09-07-2012, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by ScottyRo

While this does not directly affect the coaches and GM, I think this does give Benson more ammo to go back to Goodell and ask again to reduce their suspensions. There were clearly rules broken, but my position all along regarding the suspensions has been that they are too harsh and don't fit the crimes.

Hopefully, this will deflate his enormous ego enough to at least consider it.

Coaches are nailed on 'conduct unbecoming' and admitted to it.

ScottyRo · 09-07-2012, 03:07 PM

Oh, and this is best for Hargrove. What team was going to pick him up knowing he was going to miss 8 games? Could have been a career killer.

RockyMountainSaint · 09-07-2012, 03:09 PM

Gotta make some cap space! CRAP!

MistaBigXXL · 09-07-2012, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

Gotta make some cap space! CRAP!

Loomis will make it work.

papz · 09-07-2012, 03:11 PM

Reduce Payton's suspension in half...

kcsaints · 09-07-2012, 03:13 PM

I am going to drink myself stupid tonight in celebration

D_it_up · 09-07-2012, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Reduce Payton's suspension in half...

And give us back our draft picks!

papz · 09-07-2012, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

And give us back our draft picks!

Forgot all about them.

09-07-2012, 04:46 PM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED Originally Posted by Danno Oh snap! Can we afford Vilma? His salary didn't count against the cap this year, now it does. Yeah, it's not a problem, because Vilma and the Saints re-negotiated his contract earlier in the year and made it consist mostly of bonuses which are guaranteed, so those already counted toward the cap even with the suspension. Vilma's base salary was "only" little less than $2M if I remember correctly, and that is the only thing that will be added to the salary cap. It's the same with Smith, his re-negotiated contract had only a $800K base salary, so the Saints only have to add $200K to their cap because of him not being suspended for the 4 games. Now, other things that have affected the reported $8.2M the Saints still had left on the cap are the couple of DB moves they made. Rafael Bush has a $465K cap hit whereas Amaya, who Bush replaced, had a $540K cap hit. And I don't know what Marquis Johnson's cap hit was, but I suspect it was more than the $490K cap hit that Jerome Murphy has. Also, there's the cap hit of Elbert Mack, who was cut to make room for Murphy, before Johnson's injury settlement was announced. So, all in all, the Saints' cap is looking better than I would've expected with all the moves the FO made this offseason - you gotta love the cap massaging Loomis has done once again.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

09-07-2012, 03:06 PM	#2
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Re: SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED While this does not directly affect the coaches and GM, I think this does give Benson more ammo to go back to Goodell and ask again to reduce their suspensions. There were clearly rules broken, but my position all along regarding the suspensions has been that they are too harsh and don't fit the crimes. Hopefully, this will deflate his enormous ego enough to at least consider it. TXGSP and SaintsBro like this.

09-07-2012, 03:08 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED Originally Posted by ScottyRo While this does not directly affect the coaches and GM, I think this does give Benson more ammo to go back to Goodell and ask again to reduce their suspensions. There were clearly rules broken, but my position all along regarding the suspensions has been that they are too harsh and don't fit the crimes. Hopefully, this will deflate his enormous ego enough to at least consider it. Coaches are nailed on 'conduct unbecoming' and admitted to it.

09-07-2012, 03:07 PM	#4
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Re: SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED Oh, and this is best for Hargrove. What team was going to pick him up knowing he was going to miss 8 games? Could have been a career killer. mutineer10 and TXGSP like this.

09-07-2012, 03:09 PM	#5
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED Gotta make some cap space! CRAP!

09-07-2012, 03:11 PM	#6
MistaBigXXL 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 133	Re: SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint Gotta make some cap space! CRAP! Loomis will make it work.

09-07-2012, 03:11 PM	#7
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED Reduce Payton's suspension in half... D_it_up and savoyk like this.

09-07-2012, 03:13 PM	#8
kcsaints Site Donor 2014 Kansas Who Dat Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 380	Re: SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED I am going to drink myself stupid tonight in celebration

09-07-2012, 03:37 PM	#9
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED Originally Posted by papz Reduce Payton's suspension in half... And give us back our draft picks! RockyMountainSaint, papz, Srgt. Hulka and 1 others like this.

09-07-2012, 03:45 PM	#10
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED Originally Posted by D_it_up And give us back our draft picks! Forgot all about them.

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