Re: Marques Colston
 

He had a bad game. He didn't do so well against the Packers last year (though debatable if tonight was worse) and finished off great. (1000+ yds). It wasn't just Colston, I was screaming "wtf moore, you never drop balls!!!!!" the whole first quarter or so. The fumble wasn't even his fault, that was good play on the back.

Re: Marques Colston
 

Colston has never been a speedster who creates separation to the DBs, if that is who you think he is as a receiver, then I don't know who you've been watching all these years he's been with the Saints.

Where he shines is catching in traffic, much like a TE does, but he has a history of having games where nothing seems to latch onto his gloves, and this game just happened to be one of those.

Don't get me wrong, I was cursing his name all through the game - much like in last year's season kickoff against the Packers - but it was apparent from the first offensive play, where Brees threw an incomplete trying to target Colston, that while the throw was off, Colston only made a lackluster effort to reach the ball. From that early point on, it was apparent that he wasn't 100%, and that his leg (ankle or knee, can't remember which it was) injury was still bothering him.

He'll be much better next week, assuming he'll be healthier that is...

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i know that finsaint. i never said anything about him being fast. he doesnt need to be fast when you can snag balls in traffic, over the middle like he normally can. thats what he does. he goes up and gets balls and lands on his back in the endzone. ive seen it many times. i LOVE the guy. never said i didnt. ive been a huge fan of his since '06. if you read my first post in this thread (ill save you the trouble, page 1), you'll see i said he wasnt catching the balls he NORMALLY catches.

that being said, getting open isnt all about being fast. its about running good routes, having good footwork, and especially in his case, using your body to create space.

Re: Marques Colston
 

OK, it was the "lack of conditioning" part followed directly by the "isn't getting open" part that gave me that impression, but I stand corrected.

Colston has really good hands, and it's mainly his good catching ability and size along with Brees' ability to place the ball where Colston has the advantage over the DBs to catch it that have allowed him to become such a good WR. IMO, he doesn't run particularly good routes for a #1 WR and he doesn't have the speed to create separation through that way either. But he has those great hands...

Colston's catch rate was 75% last season and that's really good when compared to for example Calvin Johnson's 61% and Larry Fitzgerald's 52%. In fact, Colston's 75% catch rate was the best in the league among those who received more than 50 passes during the season. Percy Harvin had 72% for the second highest, and Lance Moore tied with Wes Welker and Jordy Nelson for the third best catch rate with 71%.

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So, I wouldn't give up on him just yet, generally speaking.

Re: Marques Colston
 

Colston ends up with a lot of first down catches because he plays in an offense that breaks records every year. It seems that he is either dropping passes, getting hurt, or fumbling all the time. I pull hard for Colston, because I have always thought this guy could break out and be great. He makes some great plays sometimes. But he drops routine passes way too often. I don't think he's awful, or that we should cut him, but I grow tired of his mental mistakes in crucial moments. And believe me, I remember the games quite well, but if you'd like me to dig up the stats I'd be happy to do so.

Bad day at the office.
No more no less

Re: Marques Colston
 

what is SMH? Ive had too much sex to know what this means.

Marques Colston is great, has been great, and will continue to be great. Marques, injured, had a rough day, but still caught some big passes. Drew sucked yesterday. Defense sucked yesterday. Zach Strief jumped twice. Lance Moore jumped & dropped pass. I believe Graham dropped one too. Ingram did little. Grubbs couldnt get his shoe tied. Sproles should have ran the last punt back to the left. Kromer (or Carmichael?) brought some weird
personnel groupings, and failed to use Courtney Roby. Joseph Morgan had a bad day. And guess what? We, the crowd sucked yesterday too. The Redskins fans easily bested us. Whats up with leaving early, when your
team isnt really out of it? This was your Big- Bad- We're- Mad- Homecoming? pffft. pitiful.

It was a team loss, and we're part of it. Lets do better next time.

Re: Marques Colston
 

No really, it's been like that for years. But that's what makes our offense what it is. We takes chances and for the most part, its worked out great. You can go back to the preseason games a year ago, I thought no way we'd have Colston to begin the year. The man has taken a lot of hard hits over the middle since he's been here.

They each had a bad game. We'll learn from this and be better next game out. I for one will not dwell on this.

Re: Marques Colston
 

I have seen Colston have a bad game before, wth I have seen Colston have more than 1 bad game. The offense will be fine...just give Drew time to throw O line

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Yeah but...4 catch's out of 11 targets and tack on that fumble. I think he took bad to a different level today. I don't remember him playing this bad ever.

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Correct...no excuses he played bad. My point is it takes more than 1 game to have a pattern of poor play.

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Mike, I was talking about this last year...

Worked on a Saturday till four for a customer so his equipment could be on a job for Monday am...

Was telling him how my daughter got to be on the field at halftime with American Allstar Cheerleaders or something and what I had to pay for one ticket for the exwife to go with her...

Realizing how I had taken my afternoon to help him when she was visiting with me that weekend, he ponied up two nice tickets for the game...

We sat next to a well-known, rich dysfunctional family from my home town...

The crowd never-got-into-the-game; and when Abby and I started to cheer our heads off, they asked us to be quiet so they could enjoy the game; this wasn't box seats or club loge tickets either...

Saw customer a few weeks later, thanking him, we dicussed the change in the feel of the dome; he agreed about the feel, but said that that family rotates tickets and he gave us two more (my business now takes care of his fleet of equipment) - same result in Dome Feel...

I knew then that with the Superbowl victory we were now in the era of corporate seating and that while the eye candy was great (and each of the Saintsations walking around pregame recognized Abby, stopped and talked to Abby - Bonus) the Dome advantage was gone...

Now, I watch the game at my place where I can cook and my friends and I can walk around, cutting up and enjoying the game...

But the advantage of Home Games is not there...

Re: Marques Colston
 

I would replace that "B" with a "P"

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Money has a way of making one more comfortable.
The whole seeming lack of focus I attribute to the lack of a stable leadership structure.
I think that we will see more of this as the season progresses.
Even the return of suspended coaches will just add to the instability.
Being wrong about it won't upset me at all.

Re: Marques Colston
 

JP.... come to the Terrace --- this week was the exception, but normally, we are still an asylum.

Re: Marques Colston
 

Colton made a huge mistake fumbling the ball but he wasn't on the field when the skins were putting up 40 points. This was a total team effort or lack of effort.

Even with the poor play they still had a shot until that pass interfere call on Roman Harper, IMO was a horrible call.

These officials are absolutely horrible, just anther way Goodhell has found a way to **** us.

Re: Marques Colston
 

Certainly a possibility. Nobody gave the Skins a chance in the dome. The Colston fumble was the result of a perfect tackle. Same play 10 times probably results in a fumble over half. The offense definitely was not what we are used to seeing but they did enough to win, we just couldn't stop the Skins offense. Didn't help that Brees was under pressure all day. Bad game all around.

Re: Marques Colston
 

the only place i can ever afford to sit. i love it up there! i have no idea what its like to watch a game from the lower bowl, but, dont really care, either. id be happy watching the game hanging from the rafters. :)

SMH = shaking my head

I had to look it up......


"It was a team loss, and we're part of it. Lets do better next time."

Next time you walk to get a beer your azz is getting traded to the Falcons fan base.

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I like Joe Morgan but he looked like he should still be on the practice squad. He played scary.

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:whistling:

Alaska

Re: Marques Colston
 

hell yeah.... we gotta hustle back from that bathroom smoke. (i actually
run up the steps.... my section kinda expects me to do it.)

Re: Marques Colston
 

bahahaha

Re: Marques Colston
 

I obviously cursed his name when it happened because we were in such a bad spot anyway

Least he was bothered about it, which will make him extra cautious that it doesn't happen again

I would be more worried if he was laughing on the sideline directly after but he wasn't he looked p***ed off like most of us were

Just face it, not one of our players had did anything to be proud of Sunday

Let's move on to the panthers

Re: Marques Colston
 

u said what i'm thinking, don't know if morgans ready yet, he was in a daze, like too much to fast. we need to start him off with softer passes. maybe colston also. u know to get them in there grove. kind of like they did with rg111, he started with what we gave him connect on little slant-ins that turns into 88 yard gimmes. wtf. i'm over it now next up panties

Re: Marques Colston
 

Never mind..I didn't realize he dropped a touchdown pass also..flame him away!!

From CSC
Joe Morgan: F (0.00) I hate to fail a guy on the first grading of the season, but Morgan did nothing that could remotely be seen as positive. It's rare I give out A+'s or F's but this one called for it. Morgan had three balls thrown his way. The first was a sideline pass that was low and wide and while it would have been an incredible catch, we can't expect him to come up with that. He then dropped a pass right in his breadbasket 15 yards down the seam, and he dropped a touchdown pass from Brees where he had to go up against a defender to contend for the ball in the air. A receiver with decent hands makes that catch, Joe Morgan does not. He ran poor routes, had stone hands, and couldn't create separation. Hopefully he'll improve next week, but in this game he looked lost and far from an NFL caliber receiver. The kid got his chance with numerous reps and laid an egg. He just didn't show up.

Re: Marques Colston
 

What are you guys talking about. Somebody please explain this to me. I have read these same comments all over different threads. HE WAS THROWN 2 PASS's...how do you come to a conclusion that he is not ready? Hell..Moore dropped the first 3 pass's thrown to him. He turned it around thankfully. Colston was targeted 11 times and caught 4 balls..had a COSTLY fumble but Morgan gets thrown 2 pass's and he needs to be back on the practice squad? Somebody break it down for me.
i'm going to be honest with u c-mike, morgan has been impressive in preseasons going against 2nd and 3rd string pros, but he's not a seasoned vet. and was dropping balls to in those games also. so him dropping a couple sunday was not a supprize. i really did'nt mean PS, just a little softer route, it will be okay man. he does need to get his hans dirty on the field and not the P.S.

Re: Marques Colston
 

I kinda suspect that they may have been throwing those balls specifically to Joe Morgan late in the game, because the coaches already knew the game was pretty much lost, just to get him some experience and game time. Like St. Thomas said, to get his hands dirty on the field. I'd much rather have him miss them now, during garbage time in an obvious losing effort. Get him some reps. And then hopefully he gets it right later on, if he's ever needed in a game that can still actually be won.

Re: Marques Colston
 

wtf?

We were driving late with a chance to tie the game!

I think they were throwing it to him because there's no film of the guy to study, other than pre-season. Colston wasn't doing sh!t, Devery was out, Moore and Graham were the only ones catching anything, what other receiver did we have to put in??

Other than Courtney Roby of course, and why he wasn't in there instead of Morgan is anybody's guess.

I just can't believe "the coaches already knew the game was pretty much lost." We've mounted late comeback drives too many times for that