Credit where credit is due.

burningmetal · 09-09-2012, 09:25 PM

I'm going to be very blunt. All those who keep with the politically correct statements of "it's just one game guys, the season just started"... Please stop, it's far beyond annoying, and short sighted.

This was not any game. This was a season opening HOME game, after the worst offseason in NFL history. We, the fans, have vigorously defended them all offseason and so there are a lot of fired up people waiting to see this team punch someone in the mouth. Then add the fact that the area just got hit by another Hurricane, and that should have been even more motivation to play hard for the fans... And THEN add in the overturned suspensions.

How many more reason can a team possibly have to be motivated for a game? Losing is not what bothered me the most. I know that happens. The Saints lost to an inferior team, and never looked all that concerned about how they were playing. I didn't see excitement, nor anger. Just a bunch of blank stares. THAT is why this loss is disgusting. I'm not giving, not ever. But I couldn't get over how all the hype could lead to a steaming pile of horse crap.

|Mitch| · 09-09-2012, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I'm going to be very blunt. All those who keep with the politically correct statements of "it's just one game guys, the season just started"... Please stop, it's far beyond annoying, and short sighted.

And all these, get rid of Spags, get rid of the defense, the seasons already over statements are not far beyond annoying? c'mon man

burningmetal · 09-09-2012, 09:36 PM

Read my post mitch. I never said get rid of Spags or that the season is over. The whole thing was dedicated to this game, and how disgusting of a performance it was. It showed a tremendous lack of character for them to perform this way after everything that has happened. They didn't show.

|Mitch| · 09-09-2012, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Read my post mitch. I never said get rid of Spags or that the season is over. The whole thing was dedicated to this game, and how disgusting of a performance it was. It showed a tremendous lack of character for them to perform this way after everything that has happened. They didn't show.

But in the end, it was only one game. All the *****ing we all are doing here isn't gonna change a damn thing. The same old team has to suit up and play next week, all we can do is hope they can start improving and the offense can play a complete game.

burningmetal · 09-09-2012, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

But in the end, it was only one game. All the *****ing we all are doing here isn't gonna change a damn thing. The same old team has to suit up and play next week, all we can do is hope they can start improving and the offense can play a complete game.

Correct. It is one game. And one game it will always be. That's why I'm not saying we should jump ship. I commented on today's game because this is the game we just witnessed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and I'm not trying to disrespect that, but all this one game at a time thing is quite condescending. We all know this is one game. If anyone is swearing off the Saints, then shame on them, I agree with that. I'm just upset with the lack of effort.

|Mitch| · 09-09-2012, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I'm just upset with the lack of effort.

As are we all, just some are more positive than others.

burningmetal · 09-09-2012, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

As are we all, just some are more positive than others.

And that's fine. But the rest of us don't need to be expected to ignore what happened out there. The optimist in me is what keeps me being a fan after games like this. But I'm not a sugar coater.

Utah_Saint · 09-09-2012, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I'm going to be very blunt. All those who keep with the politically correct statements of "it's just one game guys, the season just started"... Please stop, it's far beyond annoying, and short sighted.

This was not any game. This was a season opening HOME game, after the worst offseason in NFL history. We, the fans, have vigorously defended them all offseason and so there are a lot of fired up people waiting to see this team punch someone in the mouth. Then add the fact that the area just got hit by another Hurricane, and that should have been even more motivation to play hard for the fans... And THEN add in the overturned suspensions.

How many more reason can a team possibly have to be motivated for a game? Losing is not what bothered me the most. I know that happens. The Saints lost to an inferior team, and never looked all that concerned about how they were playing. I didn't see excitement, nor anger. Just a bunch of blank stares. THAT is why this loss is disgusting. I'm not giving, not ever. But I couldn't get over how all the hype could lead to a steaming pile of horse crap.

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Correct. It is one game. And one game it will always be. That's why I'm not saying we should jump ship. I commented on today's game because this is the game we just witnessed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and I'm not trying to disrespect that, but all this one game at a time thing is quite condescending. We all know this is one game. If anyone is swearing off the Saints, then shame on them, I agree with that. I'm just upset with the lack of effort.

Let me see if I understand what you're trying to say here...

"Everyone is entitled to an opinion and you respect that", but if it's not the same as your opinion then it's "far beyond annoying and shortsighted"?

Is that about right?

burningmetal · 09-10-2012, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Let me see if I understand what you're trying to say here...

"Everyone is entitled to an opinion and you respect that", but if it's not the same as your opinion then it's "far beyond annoying and shortsighted"?

Is that about right?

No, that is not right. Do you see me telling people they can't be an eternal optimist? My point was toward everyone who keeps telling people like me, who call it like we see it (be it good or bad), that we need to calm down because it's only one game. Myself and everyone else understands that this game doesn't make or break us. But we don't have to pretend like that wasn't an awful performance, which it clearly was. Just because we're critical about one game doesn't mean we've jumped off the bandwagon.

Does that clear up my point a little?

I don't mind people being positive at all. Why would I? I have a problem with people who are so politically correct that they have to say something condescending about anyone who dares to say anything negative about the home team. So instead of highlighting two things I said and painting them as contradictions, you might want to read the context of which both statements were made.

Rugby Saint II · 09-10-2012, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Read my post mitch. I never said get rid of Spags or that the season is over. The whole thing was dedicated to this game, and how disgusting of a performance it was. It showed a tremendous lack of character for them to perform this way after everything that has happened. They didn't show.

The lack of chatacter issue is what concerns me........we never got pizzed off, we just took it. Pretty much like the whole offseason. We just took it. I would have thought that Vilmas fight would give us some fire. It didn't happen.
Without Payton the master motivator we were less than aggressive.

AND IT SUCKS!!!!

09-09-2012, 09:25 PM	#1
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Credit where credit is due. I'm going to be very blunt. All those who keep with the politically correct statements of "it's just one game guys, the season just started"... Please stop, it's far beyond annoying, and short sighted. This was not any game. This was a season opening HOME game, after the worst offseason in NFL history. We, the fans, have vigorously defended them all offseason and so there are a lot of fired up people waiting to see this team punch someone in the mouth. Then add the fact that the area just got hit by another Hurricane, and that should have been even more motivation to play hard for the fans... And THEN add in the overturned suspensions. How many more reason can a team possibly have to be motivated for a game? Losing is not what bothered me the most. I know that happens. The Saints lost to an inferior team, and never looked all that concerned about how they were playing. I didn't see excitement, nor anger. Just a bunch of blank stares. THAT is why this loss is disgusting. I'm not giving, not ever. But I couldn't get over how all the hype could lead to a steaming pile of horse crap. CharityMike likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

09-09-2012, 09:33 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Credit where credit is due. Originally Posted by burningmetal I'm going to be very blunt. All those who keep with the politically correct statements of "it's just one game guys, the season just started"... Please stop, it's far beyond annoying, and short sighted. And all these, get rid of Spags, get rid of the defense, the seasons already over statements are not far beyond annoying? c'mon man spkb25, Utah_Saint and 4thqtrsaint like this.

09-09-2012, 09:36 PM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Credit where credit is due. Read my post mitch. I never said get rid of Spags or that the season is over. The whole thing was dedicated to this game, and how disgusting of a performance it was. It showed a tremendous lack of character for them to perform this way after everything that has happened. They didn't show. Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-09-2012, 09:38 PM	#4
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Credit where credit is due. Originally Posted by burningmetal Read my post mitch. I never said get rid of Spags or that the season is over. The whole thing was dedicated to this game, and how disgusting of a performance it was. It showed a tremendous lack of character for them to perform this way after everything that has happened. They didn't show. But in the end, it was only one game. All the *****ing we all are doing here isn't gonna change a damn thing. The same old team has to suit up and play next week, all we can do is hope they can start improving and the offense can play a complete game.

09-09-2012, 09:42 PM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Credit where credit is due. Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| But in the end, it was only one game. All the *****ing we all are doing here isn't gonna change a damn thing. The same old team has to suit up and play next week, all we can do is hope they can start improving and the offense can play a complete game. Correct. It is one game. And one game it will always be. That's why I'm not saying we should jump ship. I commented on today's game because this is the game we just witnessed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and I'm not trying to disrespect that, but all this one game at a time thing is quite condescending. We all know this is one game. If anyone is swearing off the Saints, then shame on them, I agree with that. I'm just upset with the lack of effort.

09-09-2012, 09:45 PM	#6
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Credit where credit is due. Originally Posted by burningmetal I'm just upset with the lack of effort. As are we all, just some are more positive than others.

09-09-2012, 09:49 PM	#7
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Credit where credit is due. Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| As are we all, just some are more positive than others. And that's fine. But the rest of us don't need to be expected to ignore what happened out there. The optimist in me is what keeps me being a fan after games like this. But I'm not a sugar coater. boonedocksaint likes this.

09-09-2012, 10:03 PM	#8
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Credit where credit is due. Originally Posted by burningmetal I'm going to be very blunt. All those who keep with the politically correct statements of "it's just one game guys, the season just started"... Please stop, it's far beyond annoying, and short sighted. This was not any game. This was a season opening HOME game, after the worst offseason in NFL history. We, the fans, have vigorously defended them all offseason and so there are a lot of fired up people waiting to see this team punch someone in the mouth. Then add the fact that the area just got hit by another Hurricane, and that should have been even more motivation to play hard for the fans... And THEN add in the overturned suspensions. How many more reason can a team possibly have to be motivated for a game? Losing is not what bothered me the most. I know that happens. The Saints lost to an inferior team, and never looked all that concerned about how they were playing. I didn't see excitement, nor anger. Just a bunch of blank stares. THAT is why this loss is disgusting. I'm not giving, not ever. But I couldn't get over how all the hype could lead to a steaming pile of horse crap. Originally Posted by burningmetal Correct. It is one game. And one game it will always be. That's why I'm not saying we should jump ship. I commented on today's game because this is the game we just witnessed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and I'm not trying to disrespect that, but all this one game at a time thing is quite condescending. We all know this is one game. If anyone is swearing off the Saints, then shame on them, I agree with that. I'm just upset with the lack of effort. Let me see if I understand what you're trying to say here... "Everyone is entitled to an opinion and you respect that", but if it's not the same as your opinion then it's "far beyond annoying and shortsighted"? Is that about right?

09-10-2012, 03:13 AM	#9
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Credit where credit is due. Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Let me see if I understand what you're trying to say here... "Everyone is entitled to an opinion and you respect that", but if it's not the same as your opinion then it's "far beyond annoying and shortsighted"? Is that about right? No, that is not right. Do you see me telling people they can't be an eternal optimist? My point was toward everyone who keeps telling people like me, who call it like we see it (be it good or bad), that we need to calm down because it's only one game. Myself and everyone else understands that this game doesn't make or break us. But we don't have to pretend like that wasn't an awful performance, which it clearly was. Just because we're critical about one game doesn't mean we've jumped off the bandwagon. Does that clear up my point a little? I don't mind people being positive at all. Why would I? I have a problem with people who are so politically correct that they have to say something condescending about anyone who dares to say anything negative about the home team. So instead of highlighting two things I said and painting them as contradictions, you might want to read the context of which both statements were made.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

09-10-2012, 01:59 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Credit where credit is due. Originally Posted by burningmetal Read my post mitch. I never said get rid of Spags or that the season is over. The whole thing was dedicated to this game, and how disgusting of a performance it was. It showed a tremendous lack of character for them to perform this way after everything that has happened. They didn't show. The lack of chatacter issue is what concerns me........we never got pizzed off, we just took it. Pretty much like the whole offseason. We just took it. I would have thought that Vilmas fight would give us some fire. It didn't happen. Without Payton the master motivator we were less than aggressive.AND IT SUCKS!!!!

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