Rugby Saint II

He probably thinks it's working..........and that is what sucks the most. I want his karma to come back on him and bite his arse. For every evil little smile he smiled I want him wringing his hands and calling for his mommy!

Beastmode

All I want is for him to be a man. Admit he made mistakes and stop hiding behind the CBA, lawyers, and his excessive bodyguards because it's not working. Everyone knows he crossed the line.

He stated once in an interview a while back that he is not perfect. Well nobody is, we all screw up. Acknowledge that there were inconsistencies in the evidence that did not add up when it was all said and done and lessen the suspensions for everyone. If he does that then all is forgiven in my book. Both parties screwed up. Meet in the middle and move on.

Mardigras9

The team certainly looked flat and the superdome after about 10 minutes sure seemed flat. I would have to say all the adversity and stress from the whole off-season (not just Goodell) has had an affect. How everyone recovers and how soon, is the real question.

UK_WhoDat

In Goodell's mind it is working.
It is not going to impact the Saints long term.
It might affect the NFL in the short and medium term.

Beastmode

I know it's hard for any Saints fan but picture for just a minute your are Roger and the Saints lie to you. They tell you nothing is going on when in fact there is, a pay for performance system. They are not being honest with the General, and this is not one instance but a couple from my understanding.

Meanwhile, there is an undertow of former players claiming they have been wronged by the NFL regarding head injuries. Roger at this point is infuriated. He dolls out a punishment without much regard for the absolute facts. He believes he has enough facts to send a warning to all teams that it will not be tolerated. His mission, set in place by the owners, is to clean up the NFL and he believes in his mind this is the right course of action.

I honestly believe this is what went down. He was tasked to clean up the NFL of this kind of stuff but he over reacted. It's time to admit he made mistakes, lessen the punishments and move on. Right now the Saints have admitted to their mistakes. He has not. It's time to stop being obtuse and man up. Either show evidence that proves beyond a doubt this is what happened or admit you crossed the line with the punishments. Everyone knows he over reacts from his "red in the face" instances that have been well documented. Admit you make mistakes like everyone else and stop trying to act like you did nothing wrong. You did. Be a man about it.

Tobias-Reiper

We won't know if Goodell's plan will work until after the ex-player lawsuits go to court. So far, he's appeased Congress, so good for him.

Yeah.. picture the police asking you if you are stealing cable... you say no. Then they comeback one day when you are watching a movie on HBO and they tell you "AHA! You ARE stealing cable!".

SaintsBro

Actually the analogy with Payton should be more like this -- the police come by and warn you not to steal cable. Stealing cable is bad. You stand there in the doorway and go, yeah, okay, right, stealing cable, we'll look into it. You close the door, without letting the cops inside, just the minimum answers you can give, and they leave. Then your tenant in your building steals cable, and the cops come BACK for him and nail YOU, and throw you out of your house, for a whole year, for "lying" and "disrespecting" the cable company, and "not doing enough" to prevent the theft of cable.

Remember, Goodell determined that Payton's suspension was because he "didn't do enough" -- whatever that means -- and they said that Payton "lied" but then they never gave any specific examples of him actually lying, just examples of where Payton either kinda blew them off, ignored them, or told them whatever the pat answer was that they wanted to hear.