Mickles: Saints hope for no more overreaction

09-15-2012, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Damn, it was his first game as a head coach. Let him get acclimated and figure it out. It has to be a learn as you go thing...

Communication with individuals on the field should not be a learn as you go type of thing. So many mistakes in this game by our players (penalty wise) yet the head coach says nothing to the players responsible. Do I expect a learning curve, yes, but I expect him to act like he was on the field. In the skins game he could have been in the box and you wouldn't have noticed.

I do hope he steps up, we need him to. However, I have been a Saints fan for too long to see us rise to greatness only to go back to accepting mediocrity. That goes for players and coaches alike.

|Mitch| · 09-15-2012, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Communication with individuals on the field should not be a learn as you go type of thing. So many mistakes in this game by our players (penalty wise) yet the head coach says nothing to the players responsible.

Do you know for certain that's what happened? Or just what they shown on tv?

SaintsBro · 09-15-2012, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

So many mistakes in this game by our players (penalty wise) yet the head coach says nothing to the players responsible.

Just curious, HOW DO YOU KNOW that he said nothing to the players responsible? Have you been in the team meetings all week? Were you on the sidelines last Sunday? Stood next to him at every practice? Come on be realistic. OF COURSE he said something to the players and coaches. He's just not going to air that dirty laundry in public. Get a grip. Even if you were in the freaking front row of 142, you don't know anything of what was said.

blackangold · 09-15-2012, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Do you know for certain that's what happened? Or just what they shown on tv?

Section 603 and never saw him communicate with players or refs. Is it possible I missed it, sure.

Not saying I don't think he can be a great coach. I just want to see some fire from him. Our players had that from payton and they need it from someone now.

|Mitch| · 09-15-2012, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Section 603 and never saw him communicate with players or refs. Is it possible I missed it, sure.

Not saying I don't think he can be a great coach. I just want to see some fire from him. Our players had that from payton and they need it from someone now.

Everyone has different personalities and coaching styles, players responding to one doesn't mean they can't or will not respond to a different style... Give the man time, it was only "one" game

blackangold · 09-15-2012, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Just curious, HOW DO YOU KNOW that he said nothing to the players responsible? Have you been in the team meetings all week? Were you on the sidelines last Sunday? Stood next to him at every practice? Come on be realistic. OF COURSE he said something to the players and coaches. He's just not going to air that dirty laundry in public. Get a grip. Even if you were in the freaking front row of 142, you don't know anything of what was said.

Talking about during the game, and not just the players. The awful call on Harper (PI) and yet no reaction out of him. On the other sideline you could tell Shanhan (SP) was on fire for every bad call, I could tell even from the upper deck.

blackangold · 09-15-2012, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Everyone has different personalities and coaching styles, players responding to one doesn't mean they can't or will not respond to a different style... Give the man time, it was only "one" game

I am not throwing him out with the bathwater. Just voicing my concern.

GoofySaint · 09-15-2012, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Talking about during the game, and not just the players. The awful call on Harper (PI) and yet no reaction out of him. On the other sideline you could tell Shanhan (SP) was on fire for every bad call, I could tell even from the upper deck.

I saw Sean Payton just standing there unfazed during the 9ers.
I saw crazy calls during that game yet Payton just stood there like a boss.

Payton is not a bad coach.

On the other side I saw Harbaugh screaming and crying like an idiot at the smallest things.

The reality is that just because one coach yells at his teammates more doesn't mean he's a better coach.

In fact I've noticed the ones that yell the most are usually the bad coaches(Todd Haley, mike singletary, etc)

Harbuagh is different but he's always at everybody BUT his team.

Whereas the coaches who stand unfazed on TV seem to do well.

Mike Tomlin
Bill Belichick
Payton(most of the time at least on tv)

If Mike Shanahan was the better coach, he wouldn't be in a position to need a QB like RG3.

QBREES9 · 09-15-2012, 11:03 PM

“Every team that won was crowned a Super Bowl champion and every team that lost wasn’t going to make the playoffs.

This is the truth.

The Dude · 09-15-2012, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Communication with individuals on the field should not be a learn as you go type of thing. So many mistakes in this game by our players (penalty wise) yet the head coach says nothing to the players responsible. Do I expect a learning curve, yes, but I expect him to act like he was on the field. In the skins game he could have been in the box and you wouldn't have noticed.

I do hope he steps up, we need him to. However, I have been a Saints fan for too long to see us rise to greatness only to go back to accepting mediocrity. That goes for players and coaches alike.

Best thing I have heard anyone say in a long time. We need to hold this team accountable like fans hold LSU and Les Miles accountable. Miles loses one game and fans scream for his head, yes this year we are in a different situation with Kromer, but they have to be held to some kind of standard.

09-15-2012, 08:08 PM	#11
Threaded by blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Damn, it was his first game as a head coach. Let him get acclimated and figure it out. It has to be a learn as you go thing... Communication with individuals on the field should not be a learn as you go type of thing. So many mistakes in this game by our players (penalty wise) yet the head coach says nothing to the players responsible. Do I expect a learning curve, yes, but I expect him to act like he was on the field. In the skins game he could have been in the box and you wouldn't have noticed. I do hope he steps up, we need him to. However, I have been a Saints fan for too long to see us rise to greatness only to go back to accepting mediocrity. That goes for players and coaches alike.
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09-15-2012, 08:11 PM	#12
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Mickles: Saints hope for no more overreaction Originally Posted by blackangold Communication with individuals on the field should not be a learn as you go type of thing. So many mistakes in this game by our players (penalty wise) yet the head coach says nothing to the players responsible. Do you know for certain that's what happened? Or just what they shown on tv?

09-15-2012, 08:15 PM	#13
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Mickles: Saints hope for no more overreaction Originally Posted by blackangold So many mistakes in this game by our players (penalty wise) yet the head coach says nothing to the players responsible. Just curious, HOW DO YOU KNOW that he said nothing to the players responsible? Have you been in the team meetings all week? Were you on the sidelines last Sunday? Stood next to him at every practice? Come on be realistic. OF COURSE he said something to the players and coaches. He's just not going to air that dirty laundry in public. Get a grip. Even if you were in the freaking front row of 142, you don't know anything of what was said.

09-15-2012, 08:15 PM	#14
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Mickles: Saints hope for no more overreaction Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Do you know for certain that's what happened? Or just what they shown on tv? Section 603 and never saw him communicate with players or refs. Is it possible I missed it, sure. Not saying I don't think he can be a great coach. I just want to see some fire from him. Our players had that from payton and they need it from someone now.

09-15-2012, 08:17 PM	#15
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Mickles: Saints hope for no more overreaction Originally Posted by blackangold Section 603 and never saw him communicate with players or refs. Is it possible I missed it, sure. Not saying I don't think he can be a great coach. I just want to see some fire from him. Our players had that from payton and they need it from someone now. Everyone has different personalities and coaching styles, players responding to one doesn't mean they can't or will not respond to a different style... Give the man time, it was only "one" game

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09-15-2012, 08:18 PM	#16
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Mickles: Saints hope for no more overreaction Originally Posted by SaintsBro Just curious, HOW DO YOU KNOW that he said nothing to the players responsible? Have you been in the team meetings all week? Were you on the sidelines last Sunday? Stood next to him at every practice? Come on be realistic. OF COURSE he said something to the players and coaches. He's just not going to air that dirty laundry in public. Get a grip. Even if you were in the freaking front row of 142, you don't know anything of what was said. Talking about during the game, and not just the players. The awful call on Harper (PI) and yet no reaction out of him. On the other sideline you could tell Shanhan (SP) was on fire for every bad call, I could tell even from the upper deck.

09-15-2012, 08:19 PM	#17
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Mickles: Saints hope for no more overreaction Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Everyone has different personalities and coaching styles, players responding to one doesn't mean they can't or will not respond to a different style... Give the man time, it was only "one" game I am not throwing him out with the bathwater. Just voicing my concern.

09-15-2012, 08:31 PM	#18
GoofySaint 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Philipsburg, PA Posts: 161	Re: Mickles: Saints hope for no more overreaction Originally Posted by blackangold Talking about during the game, and not just the players. The awful call on Harper (PI) and yet no reaction out of him. On the other sideline you could tell Shanhan (SP) was on fire for every bad call, I could tell even from the upper deck. I saw Sean Payton just standing there unfazed during the 9ers. I saw crazy calls during that game yet Payton just stood there like a boss. Payton is not a bad coach. On the other side I saw Harbaugh screaming and crying like an idiot at the smallest things. The reality is that just because one coach yells at his teammates more doesn't mean he's a better coach. In fact I've noticed the ones that yell the most are usually the bad coaches(Todd Haley, mike singletary, etc) Harbuagh is different but he's always at everybody BUT his team. Whereas the coaches who stand unfazed on TV seem to do well. Mike Tomlin Bill Belichick Payton(most of the time at least on tv) If Mike Shanahan was the better coach, he wouldn't be in a position to need a QB like RG3. SaintsBro likes this.

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09-15-2012, 11:20 PM	#20
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Mickles: Saints hope for no more overreaction Originally Posted by blackangold Communication with individuals on the field should not be a learn as you go type of thing. So many mistakes in this game by our players (penalty wise) yet the head coach says nothing to the players responsible. Do I expect a learning curve, yes, but I expect him to act like he was on the field. In the skins game he could have been in the box and you wouldn't have noticed. I do hope he steps up, we need him to. However, I have been a Saints fan for too long to see us rise to greatness only to go back to accepting mediocrity. That goes for players and coaches alike. Best thing I have heard anyone say in a long time. We need to hold this team accountable like fans hold LSU and Les Miles accountable. Miles loses one game and fans scream for his head, yes this year we are in a different situation with Kromer, but they have to be held to some kind of standard. blackangold likes this.
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