Payton speaks about Panthers game. He says stuff

SaintsBro · 09-14-2012, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Im not saying I necessarily believe that was the case, just than people would gripe about that constantly. And I do remember several times he abandoned the run too early. Not so much last year but he has. I see your point though. I concede.

Well you're totally right in one sense, Dude -- that was the great debate, it raged for a number of years. And the truth is that Payton was a little bit "pass-happy" in his first couple of years. And he would give up on the run. It was like, he had those ten or 12 pre-scripted plays in the beginning of the game, and if one of those early running plays didn't bust out for a BIG gain, he'd get impatient and sorta give up on running the ball. I remember in the forums on nola.com (when they used to be better) somebody there had it all broken down, very thorough, game by game, quarter by quarter, you could see exactly WHEN he abandoned the run, like, precisely where in the game it happened. And which ones were wins and losses.

But then sometime in 2009, Payton literally had an "Aha!" moment about running the ball, and became more balanced from that point forward. I remember reading him say this specifically in an interview. Because what happened in 2009 was that right after the 2008 season ended, Payton and the coaches did an "autopsy" on 2008, they went through the whole season and said, what happened here, what could we have done better? Because it was so disappointing.

And since then, from 2009 up to last year, Payton was a lot more balanced, a lot more committed to the run, and look at the improved record for those three seasons, the improved rushing standings, etc. etc.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Payton speaks about Panthers game. He says stuff Originally Posted by The Dude Im not saying I necessarily believe that was the case, just than people would gripe about that constantly. And I do remember several times he abandoned the run too early. Not so much last year but he has. I see your point though. I concede. Well you're totally right in one sense, Dude -- that was the great debate, it raged for a number of years. And the truth is that Payton was a little bit "pass-happy" in his first couple of years. And he would give up on the run. It was like, he had those ten or 12 pre-scripted plays in the beginning of the game, and if one of those early running plays didn't bust out for a BIG gain, he'd get impatient and sorta give up on running the ball. I remember in the forums on nola.com (when they used to be better) somebody there had it all broken down, very thorough, game by game, quarter by quarter, you could see exactly WHEN he abandoned the run, like, precisely where in the game it happened. And which ones were wins and losses. But then sometime in 2009, Payton literally had an "Aha!" moment about running the ball, and became more balanced from that point forward. I remember reading him say this specifically in an interview. Because what happened in 2009 was that right after the 2008 season ended, Payton and the coaches did an "autopsy" on 2008, they went through the whole season and said, what happened here, what could we have done better? Because it was so disappointing. And since then, from 2009 up to last year, Payton was a lot more balanced, a lot more committed to the run, and look at the improved record for those three seasons, the improved rushing standings, etc. etc. FinSaint likes this.

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