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The Dude 09-14-2012 02:53 PM

Payton speaks about Panthers game. He says stuff
 
Sean Payton said New Orleans Saints will handle coming back from loss the 'right way' - New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com

"You feel like you're watching your own family members so when they experience a loss, it's frustrating," Payton said. "I think it's more frustrating when you're just sitting back afar from a couch watching."
He said he feels removed from the team and yet he feels so close to the situation at the same time. So Payton understandably watched last Sunday's game with the keen eye expected by a coach and with the heart of an adoring fan.
"I sat down with a pad and paper and watched the game," Payton said. "Just started eating a bunch of junk food in the fourth quarter when they were losing."



I want our god damned coach back.

TheOak 09-14-2012 02:56 PM

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What I wouldn't give to see what was scribbled on that paper.


"Run the damned ball!"

The Dude 09-14-2012 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 438527)
What I wouldn't give to see what was scribbled on that paper.


"Run the damned ball!"

I don't get why people keep saying that about Kromer. Payton would abandon the run too early consistently. That was most peoples biggest gripe about Payton.

saintfan 09-14-2012 02:59 PM

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Roger lets him watch the games?

TheOak 09-14-2012 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 438529)
I don't get why people keep saying that about Kromer. Payton would abandon the run too early consistently. That was most peoples biggest gripe about Payton.

Splain something to me pretty please.

How do you "abandon the run too early", and end up with the #6 rushing offense?

The Dude 09-14-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 438531)
Roger lets him watch the games?

Really. Amazing huh. Im surprised he doesn't demand Payton submit written notices from the Dish Network stating he no longer has a subscription.

The Dude 09-14-2012 03:18 PM

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That Sonofa***** set our franchise back about 4 years. About the window we would have had to continue to be an elite team with Brees at the helm.

The Dude 09-14-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 438533)
Splain something to me pretty please.

How do you "abandon the run too early", and end up with the #6 rushing offense?

Im not saying I necessarily believe that was the case, just than people would gripe about that constantly. And I do remember several times he abandoned the run too early. Not so much last year but he has. I see your point though. I concede.

Tobias-Reiper 09-14-2012 03:22 PM

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I am noticing a pattern here...

First it was the plays Coach uses with his son's team, being the same plays he uses with the Saints, and being written on wrist bands.

Now he's sitting on his couch watching the game and taking notes on paper, that will end up in his garbage.

TheOak 09-14-2012 03:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 438539)
I am noticing a pattern here...

First it was the plays Coach uses with his son's team, being the same plays he uses with the Saints, and being written on wrist bands.

Now he's sitting on his couch watching the game and taking notes on paper, that will end up in his garbage.

Before you know it... Drinkin and whorin....

Wait! TMZ!

Rugby Saint II 09-14-2012 03:32 PM

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I think I'm going to rifle through his garbage. Once it hits the street it's public property.

44Champs 09-14-2012 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 438547)
I think I'm going to rifle through his garbage. Once it hits the street it's public property.

Great idea! It's not his fault if he draws up a weekly game plan, throws it away, and somebody steals it from his garbage, then delivers it to Kromer. :)

The Dude 09-14-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 438549)
Great idea! It's not his fault if he draws up a weekly game plan, throws it away, and somebody steals it from his garbage, then delivers it to Kromer. :)

Dude that is actually a really good ****ing idea.

Ashley 09-14-2012 03:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 438525)
Sean Payton said New Orleans Saints will handle coming back from loss the 'right way' - New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com

"You feel like you're watching your own family members so when they experience a loss, it's frustrating," Payton said. "I think it's more frustrating when you're just sitting back afar from a couch watching."
He said he feels removed from the team and yet he feels so close to the situation at the same time. So Payton understandably watched last Sunday's game with the keen eye expected by a coach and with the heart of an adoring fan.
"I sat down with a pad and paper and watched the game," Payton said. "Just started eating a bunch of junk food in the fourth quarter when they were losing."



I want our god damned coach back.


"Just started eating a bunch of junk food in the fourth quarter when they were losing." I was to SP. it's hard being at home depressed with so much junk food lying around......

SaintsBro 09-14-2012 04:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 438538)
Im not saying I necessarily believe that was the case, just than people would gripe about that constantly. And I do remember several times he abandoned the run too early. Not so much last year but he has. I see your point though. I concede.

Well you're totally right in one sense, Dude -- that was the great debate, it raged for a number of years. And the truth is that Payton was a little bit "pass-happy" in his first couple of years. And he would give up on the run. It was like, he had those ten or 12 pre-scripted plays in the beginning of the game, and if one of those early running plays didn't bust out for a BIG gain, he'd get impatient and sorta give up on running the ball. I remember in the forums on nola.com (when they used to be better) somebody there had it all broken down, very thorough, game by game, quarter by quarter, you could see exactly WHEN he abandoned the run, like, precisely where in the game it happened. And which ones were wins and losses.

But then sometime in 2009, Payton literally had an "Aha!" moment about running the ball, and became more balanced from that point forward. I remember reading him say this specifically in an interview. Because what happened in 2009 was that right after the 2008 season ended, Payton and the coaches did an "autopsy" on 2008, they went through the whole season and said, what happened here, what could we have done better? Because it was so disappointing.

And since then, from 2009 up to last year, Payton was a lot more balanced, a lot more committed to the run, and look at the improved record for those three seasons, the improved rushing standings, etc. etc.

The Dude 09-14-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 438560)
Well you're totally right in one sense, Dude -- that was the great debate, it raged for a number of years. And the truth is that Payton was a little bit "pass-happy" in his first couple of years. And he would give up on the run. It was like, he had those ten or 12 pre-scripted plays in the beginning of the game, and if one of those early running plays didn't bust out for a BIG gain, he'd get impatient and sorta give up on running the ball. I remember in the forums on nola.com (when they used to be better) somebody there had it all broken down, very thorough, game by game, quarter by quarter, you could see exactly WHEN he abandoned the run, like, precisely where in the game it happened. And which ones were wins and losses.

But then sometime in 2009, Payton literally had an "Aha!" moment about running the ball, and became more balanced from that point forward. I remember reading him say this specifically in an interview. Because what happened in 2009 was that right after the 2008 season ended, Payton and the coaches did an "autopsy" on 2008, they went through the whole season and said, what happened here, what could we have done better? Because it was so disappointing.

And since then, from 2009 up to last year, Payton was a lot more balanced, a lot more committed to the run, and look at the improved record for those three seasons, the improved rushing standings, etc. etc.

One thing I like about Payton is that he has really grown as a coach and learned from his mistakes and made adjustments. When he first got here Parcells would say that sometimes he got "the virus" and we saw some of that at first. The first couple of years you saw him stick to the same plan over and over again and try and force things to work. He would then start making adjustments but it would be from week to week, then you started seeing him make adjustments in the actual games. I think the turning point was in that Seattle game a few years back, maybe 08 when he kept trying to force Reggie to run the ball up the middle. Reggie didn't have one yard in like 7 carries.That was the end of the Reggie Bush experiment as a feature back and the following year we drafted a running back (who wound up being beat out by a guy named Pierre Thomas). In 08 and part of 09 he continued to abandon the run early but in the last couple of years as that other guy up there with all the x's said he began to take a more balanced approach..It has been cool watching him grow and adjust

Joker 09-14-2012 06:34 PM

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[QUOTE=x626xBlack;438527]What I wouldn't give to see what was scribbled on

Where do you think that scribbled on piece of paper went, to the garbage so a garbage man could accidentally pick it up and let say give it to the current coaching staff. Just a thought

Joker 09-14-2012 06:38 PM

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Does anyone really think he has no communications of some kind with the team?

The Dude 09-14-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 438617)
Does anyone really think he has no communications of some kind with the team?

No, but I kind of wish he wouldn't. Its that kind of **** that got us in trouble in the first place.

Joker 09-14-2012 06:46 PM

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The kind of **** that got us in trouble is some ass wipe discussed something that went on in the locker room, true or not it should have never happened and I'll go as far as to say this person or people lied or stretched the truth just a little.

I think it's Jeremy Suckey

The Dude 09-14-2012 06:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker (Post 438621)
The kind of **** that got us in trouble is some ass wipe discussed something that went on in the locker room, true or not it should have never happened and I'll go as far as to say this person or people lied or stretched the truth just a little.

I think it's Jeremy Suckey

It wouldn't surprise me at all. He seems like the type.

QBREES9 09-14-2012 11:31 PM

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Yes they Will !

subguy 09-15-2012 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 438533)
Splain something to me pretty please.

How do you "abandon the run too early", and end up with the #6 rushing offense?

High YPC?

FinSaint 09-15-2012 07:04 AM

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If anything, I think Kromer would run the ball 8 times out of 10, because he is the running game coordinator along with being the O-line coach.

If you want to blame somebody for the lack of running plays in the defeat against the Redskins - blame Carmichael, because he was the one calling the plays as far as I've understood the hierarchy between the coaches.

SaintsBro 09-15-2012 11:41 AM

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For the umpteenth time, people-- it's NOT Shockey. It was a former assistant defensive coach, who got let go/fired and held a grudge . Darren Sharper laid it all out in an interview on WWL, he said everything you need to figure it out, except the guy's name. NOT Shockey.

alexonfyre 09-15-2012 12:50 PM

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If you want to blame someone for the lack of running plays...I would probably start with the entire defense.

ChrisXVI 09-15-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 438725)
For the umpteenth time, people-- it's NOT Shockey. It was a former assistant defensive coach, who got let go/fired and held a grudge . Darren Sharper laid it all out in an interview on WWL, he said everything you need to figure it out, except the guy's name. NOT Shockey.

Yep... Mike Cerullo.

SaintsBro 09-16-2012 09:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Payton (Post 438525)
"I sat down with a pad and paper and watched the game," Payton said. "Just started eating a bunch of junk food in the fourth quarter when they were losing."

This is why I heart Payton. This is sooooo like him. I love the guy because (A) it's like he's OCD about football, who else watches a game on TV with a pad and paper? And (B) he lets the interviewer know he did this -- I think he mentioned that he was taking notes, on purpose, so it fuels an endless speculation train about whether or not he is secretly communicating with the team, just to keep people talking about it, and to let the league know that there are endless ways he could get around this punishment if he really wanted to, and shows up how SILLY and juvenile the whole "no contact with the team" policy is...

I think Payton let that little quote about the pad and paper slip in there on purpose, just to give the NFL fits, and to make them lose a little sleep about how they are going to enforce this thing for a whole year. Shows how absurd the whole thing is!

|Mitch| 09-16-2012 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 438915)
I think Payton let that little quote about the pad and paper slip in there on purpose, just to give the NFL fits, and to make them lose a little sleep about how they are going to enforce this thing for a whole year.

Beware what you wish for... This will be the scandal this coming offseason. Roger will try to banish Sean for good this time :rolleyes:

4everSaint 09-16-2012 11:22 PM

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hilarious and awesome at the same time!

BIGEASY504 09-17-2012 02:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 438525)
Sean Payton said New Orleans Saints will handle coming back from loss the 'right way' - New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com

"You feel like you're watching your own family members so when they experience a loss, it's frustrating," Payton said. "I think it's more frustrating when you're just sitting back afar from a couch watching."
He said he feels removed from the team and yet he feels so close to the situation at the same time. So Payton understandably watched last Sunday's game with the keen eye expected by a coach and with the heart of an adoring fan.
"I sat down with a pad and paper and watched the game," Payton said. "Just started eating a bunch of junk food in the fourth quarter when they were losing."



I want our god damned coach back.

With him watching as a fan than he should be able to see what is missing on the team.

skymike 09-17-2012 06:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 438531)
Roger lets him watch the games?

I thought the same exact thing.


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