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WhoDat!656 09-17-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 439074)
The defense didn't throw a pick 6.

No they didn't! But they also DIDN'T tackle, DIDN'T cover and dropped a couple interceptions.

They also couldn't/didn't get to a QB with zero NFL experience, (and helped him set an NFL record in the process), and along the way gave up 75 points in 2 games

But you go ahead and blame Brees if it makes you feel better!

Srgt. Hulka 09-17-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 439888)
No they didn't! But they also DIDN'T tackle, DIDN'T cover and dropped a couple interceptions.

They also couldn't/didn't get to a QB with zero NFL experience, (and helped him set an NFL record in the process), and along the way gave up 75 points in 2 games

But you go ahead and blame Brees if it makes you feel better!

The defense also wasn't running for it's life on every play.

voodooido 09-17-2012 04:42 PM

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Funny, Drew throws for over 300 yards and the offense is clicking. Avg 30 points a game. But people blame him even know the defense is giving up 35 points a game. This is the worst Saints defense I have ever seen and I am 37. Not Drews fault. He cant score EVERY drive. 30 points should be enough to win every game. Depending on what the d does Sunday will determine weather I start a fire Sprags page.

voodooido 09-17-2012 04:43 PM

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No, but they give up 35 points a game. Brees puts up 30 points a game and u blame him??????

Brees SUCKS. FIRE BREES! No way he should only throw 650 yards over 2 games. No way he should score 30 a game! He sucks! Come on people, this is Drew Brees. The best qb to wear a Saints uniform. It is ignorant to blame him because the defense sucks

TheOak 09-17-2012 05:04 PM

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WhoDat!656 09-17-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka (Post 439891)
The defense also wasn't running for it's life on every play.

That is part of the problem!!

If they DID run/pursue/chase for their life the Saints wouldn't be 0-2!

Jamessr 09-17-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 439896)
No, but they give up 35 points a game. Brees puts up 30 points a game and u blame him??????

Brees SUCKS. FIRE BREES! No way he should only throw 650 yards over 2 games. No way he should score 30 a game! He sucks! Come on people, this is Drew Brees. The best qb to wear a Saints uniform. It is ignorant to blame him because the defense sucks

Who ever said fire Brees?

Jamessr 11-25-2012 11:38 PM

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Told ya

Crusader 11-26-2012 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mutineer10 (Post 439193)
One of Favre's past backups is available ... just sayin'

Brooks?





Sorry couldn't resist.

Crusader 11-26-2012 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 439675)
1. You are entitled to your opinion.. That would be the title of this thread I am going to presume. I am entitled to mine... That would be my first reply. So its a wash.

2. When you blame 1 man out of 11... See the problem there?

3. If the defense could make someone punt, the offense would not have to play every game like it is the Super Bowl.

4. When our offense is 3rd in the league and our defense is 32nd... I have trouble laying too much blame on the offense.

5. When our opponents offenses are having news worthy outings against our defense I have trouble blaming the offense.

6. When our offense is averaging 422 yards and 30 points per game, I have trouble blaming them.

So yea.... Empirically it is the defense.

But looking at this specific game I'd blame the O before the D. Defence held the opponent to 17 points, enough for us to win since the O scored 21. Offence allowing 14 points cost us the game thou.

Vrillon82 11-26-2012 04:14 AM

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Someone somewhere was asking what is it about the RG position this season?

Its simple, most of these injuries to that position is intentional, but its more so something many NFL teams try to do which is fall down into the legs of the opposing linemen, I think the Saints played a little bit into that strategy to in the 49ers game when they knocked out not Williams which was a big hit, but on Hunter, I bet the 49ers lead the league in injuries to opposing players.

This is something old school Jimmy Johnson and Dallas use to do. I thought all this was changed in the rule books after that with these types of plays, its more so a chop block behind the mask.

dizzle88 11-26-2012 04:50 AM

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drew didnt have to have a perfect game for us to win

the defense was decent, they got off the field, made a big pick

Brees f'ed this one up

Yeah he shouldnt have to perfect all the time, but he sure as hell can't throw 2 pick 6's and expect us to win

NOS2SB 11-26-2012 05:31 AM

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I wish he was 4 inches taller.

leilung 11-26-2012 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 459796)
But looking at this specific game I'd blame the O before the D. Defence held the opponent to 17 points, enough for us to win since the O scored 21. Offence allowing 14 points cost us the game thou.

Bingo...we have a winner!!!!

OldMaid 11-26-2012 05:52 AM

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No, he is not turning into to Brett Farve.

He Tony Romo'd two , two throws yesterday.
YES, those were game changers.
YES, that was bad.
YES, it was costly as in SF49'ers getting two easy TD's there.
No, no one is throwing him out .
Still, Saints lost by 10.
Bad day, yeah.
Unlike him ,yeah.
WTH was he thinking? Who set up that wonderful? Him? Coachs?
He is not on the downside of his career, yet.
No, no one is giving him a free pass . He threw two pics there.
Thursday, new game day.

leilung 11-26-2012 05:52 AM

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Say what you like about the D, they looked decent out there but for the fact that Kaepernick was able to slip more tackles than I could count. Give the Whiners 'some' credit. When they knew Brees was stuck with only passing, they came in with their ears pinned back!

Did the O line look tired in the last quarter, or was it just poor play?

And WHY on earth to they keep sticking Ingram in when it's clear that Ivory should've been left in there to bust some heads?

Jamessr 11-26-2012 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 459806)
he shouldnt have to perfect all the time,

The highest paid player in the NFL shouldn't be making bone head Tony romo mistakes going into half time.
The Colston pick, honestly thats not drews fault it was tipped. However the bad placement that almost broke Colstons neck IS !

TheOak 11-26-2012 07:02 AM

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Jamessr 11-26-2012 07:02 AM

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ummm I wouldn't be too upset with one thrown in the 4th quarter with a 21 point lead.

TheOak 11-26-2012 07:06 AM

Lets just ignore the stat that was flashed across the screen during the game that showed Drew was sacked/ hit/ rushed on 50% of the pass plays.

44Champs 11-26-2012 07:14 AM

Brees won't ever be like Farvuh unless he starts retiring then unretiring

AllSaints 11-26-2012 07:21 AM

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This thread is dumb literally .....

TreyThomas 11-26-2012 07:24 AM

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I find this a bit ridiculous. Sure, Brees had thrown more interceptions, and some really costly ones. But you do realize that he throws the ball the most in the entire league, every year, right?

He puts the entire team on his back, because he has to. I'm sure he would love to have the running game that the Texans have, or the offensive line that the 49ers have, but he doesn't.

ANYONE else throwing the ball that many times and carrying the entire weight of the team on his shoulders, without a head coach, mind you, probably wouldn't have won a game this year. That includes Brett Favre, sir.

NonieT 11-26-2012 07:32 AM

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I blame Drew because he threw those 2 pick 6's. I blame the defense because sometimes they couldn't get off the field on 3rd down. I blame the offensive line because they couldn't stop them. It was a team lose. But mostly I blame the coaches. Harbaugh said it. Go with the hot hand. Ivory was the hot hand, he was gashing them. They should have let Ivory keep gashing them. If they had Drew would not have had to throw so much. They are too dependent on the pass. Drew cannot win the game all by himself.

Jamessr 11-26-2012 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 459836)
Lets just ignore the stat that was flashed across the screen during the game that showed Drew was sacked/ hit/ rushed on 50% of the pass plays.

How much of that was in the 4th quarter when we were playing catch up, we totally abandoned the running game and were forced to pass?

Jamessr 11-26-2012 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TreyThomas (Post 459840)
I'm sure he would love to have the running game that the Texans have

All Drew Bress comments aside...I'd be willing to bet if used properly we have a better running game than the Texans.

SloMotion 11-26-2012 08:11 AM

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Nah, he's not turning into 'Brett Favre' ... sh#t happens ... you pick yourself up, you dust yourself off, and you get ready to play the next game ... Drew knows the drill, he ain't going all 'Brett Favre' on the Saints yet, :mrgreen:.

TheOak 11-26-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 459852)
How much of that was in the 4th quarter when we were playing catch up, we totally abandoned the running game and were forced to pass?

That was in the 3rd qtr that it was flashed... Catchup has nothing to do with not protecting the QB.

TheOak 11-26-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 459859)
\... you pick yourself up, you dust yourself off, and you get ready to play the next game ...\.


No Sir!... Its gloom despair and agony... The sky is falling... No other player or team does the terrible things we do... No Manning, Brady... has ever thrown 4 INT in a game...

Is JaMarcus Russell available?

W. Kovacs 11-26-2012 08:21 AM

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To me, the first pick-6 was 90% on Drew (the other 10% being a great play by the defender).

The second pick-6 was a team effort. Drew had to rush his throw because of lack of protection. Despite that, he threw a ball that was high, but catchable. Colston got annihilated and couldn't hold make the catch (still not sure how that wasn't a hit on a defenseless receiver...I really don't get that rule sometimes). After the pick it seemed like no one on the team even tried to make the tackle.

I still don't get why we seem to give up on the run so quickly. We were averaging, what, 3-4 yards/carry? Not exactly burning up the stat sheet, but enough to keep defenses honest.

TheOak 11-26-2012 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by W. Kovacs (Post 459866)
To me, the first pick-6 was 90% on Drew (the other 10% being a great play by the defender).

The second pick-6 was a team effort. Drew had to rush his throw because of lack of protection. Despite that, he threw a ball that was high, but catchable. Colston got annihilated and couldn't hold make the catch (still not sure how that wasn't a hit on a defenseless receiver...I really don't get that rule sometimes). After the pick it seemed like no one on the team even tried to make the tackle.

I still don't get why we seem to give up on the run so quickly. We were averaging, what, 3-4 yards/carry? Not exactly burning up the stat sheet, but enough to keep defenses honest.

Rule 1 for receivers from Highschool up... If it hits your hands you better catch it.

The ball is out of Colstons hands before he is hit. That black dot on top of the 0 on the 40 is the ball already out of his hands.

He was defensless but it was not knocked out of his hands.
http://nfl.cpl.delvenetworks.com/pla...2087e7fb61ef62

Mardigras9 11-26-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 439074)
The defense didn't throw a pick 6.

Are you kidding me? Didn't have anything to do with the 5 sacks or constant pressure I guess. One of the pick's was on Brees and the other was a tip anyway.

Budsdrinker 11-26-2012 09:12 AM

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Both picks are on Brees. First one he stared down Jimmy the whole time, never looked the LB off to the right. Second one was way too high. I don't want to hear it hit his hands BS. Colston was 3 feet in the air fully extended just to touch that ball. You don't throw that pass to your #1 receiver over the middle unless you're trying to get him killed. With all that said I blame the play calling or lack of. You know the 9ers can rush the passer, why are we calling long developing plays? Throw some quick slants, run a couple toss sweeps. Roll Brees out of the pocket a little, don't just stand in the pocket and get sacked because you're playing a 4th string RT. Carmichael blew this game.

Jamessr 11-26-2012 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 459886)
Are you kidding me? Didn't have anything to do with the 5 sacks or constant pressure I guess. One of the pick's was on Brees and the other was a tip anyway.


You realize you're quoting me from almost 7 weeks ago right?

nutria 11-26-2012 09:21 AM

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Time is running out. We may not get another franchise quarterback for 50 years. Payton and crew have to have a defense next year. Drafting defensive players has to be more successfull. All the high picks on Defensive lineman yield us no pass rush. Nobody can tackle. Look at the Niners and Ravens defenses, pass rush of the Giants. We ought to have at least a little defense.

Papa Voodoo 11-26-2012 09:57 AM

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How did Favre do that year his HC was out and all that legal stuff was happening?

Rugby Saint II 11-27-2012 10:53 AM

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They don't even look alike................

SloMotion 11-27-2012 01:16 PM

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http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.48487...88639&pid=15.1

"I know Brett Favre ... believe me, Drew Brees is NO Brett Favre (sic)"

- Jenn

QBREES9 11-27-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by onebyone (Post 439077)
I would never compare Brees to Favre because Favre is a dick.

However, Brees is not playing well this season at all. He looks lost, there is no doubt about it.

You really so ?


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