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Jamessr 09-16-2012 03:14 PM

Drew Brees is turning into Brett Favre...
 
As the title says...

|Mitch| 09-16-2012 03:16 PM

Re: Drew Brees is turning into Brett Favre...
 
What's funny; are the ones who were saying "Pay the Man" in the offseason are now his biggest haters :rolleyes:

I can't really put all the blame or hate on Drew when he has to try and do everything, because the defense...

Jamessr 09-16-2012 03:17 PM

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The defense didn't throw a pick 6.

onebyone 09-16-2012 03:18 PM

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I would never compare Brees to Favre because Favre is a dick.

However, Brees is not playing well this season at all. He looks lost, there is no doubt about it.

saintfan 09-16-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 439074)
The defense didn't throw a pick 6.

No, but they gave up about 4 other touchdowns I think. Carolina may still be scoring actually...or is that Washington?

Boutte 09-16-2012 03:20 PM

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Talk about "What have you done for me lately"!! I'm sure we could trade Brees for just about any other QB in the league. So who do all the new Brees haters suggest we go for?

|Mitch| 09-16-2012 03:20 PM

Re: Drew Brees is turning into Brett Favre...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 439074)
The defense didn't throw a pick 6.

Drew had nothing to do with the other 28 points given up, we shouldn't need Drew to have a perfect game every game to win...

Ashley 09-16-2012 03:20 PM

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Drew is fine, I do believe he will have more int's this year because of he will try a lot harder this year. So far 4. We need to stick to the run

Jamessr 09-16-2012 03:21 PM

Re: Drew Brees is turning into Brett Favre...
 
Compairing Drew to Brett doesn't mean I hate the man or I'm a hater. Just his playstyle of throwing an interception at the worst possible times is the comparison

Cory9289 09-16-2012 03:22 PM

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Look at the position he is constantly put in. O-line is really shifty.

|Mitch| 09-16-2012 03:22 PM

Re: Drew Brees is turning into Brett Favre...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 439084)
Compairing Drew to Brett doesn't mean I hate the man or I'm a hater. Just his playstyle of throwing an interception at the worst possible times is the comparison

uh; yes it does! Comparing Brees to a not so good QB is "hate" I'm sorry to say...

mutineer10 09-16-2012 03:24 PM

Re: Drew Brees is turning into Brett Favre...
 
I said this in chat earlier ...

SaintsBro 09-16-2012 03:27 PM

Re: Drew Brees is turning into Brett Favre...
 
He's not turning into Favre but he is turning into 2008 Brees where the whole thing is on his shoulders and it's too much for him. Drew has thrown almost that exact same pick 6 before in other games, and we have survived, won the game because we got a stop or a turnover on D somewhere else and our offense kept on rolling. If the D can't stop anything, all day, one blown play giving a swing of 7 points like that becomes too huge to overcome, unless the other team makes a mistake as well.

WhoDat!656 09-16-2012 03:32 PM

Re: Drew Brees is turning into Brett Favre...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 439084)
Compairing Drew to Brett doesn't mean I hate the man or I'm a hater. Just his playstyle of throwing an interception at the worst possible times is the comparison

There is never a good time for an interception, but throwing a pick 6 in the 1st half shouldnt be the death knell for our chance to win the game!

saintsfan403 09-16-2012 03:36 PM

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I feel like I was just bukaki'd with stupid after reading this...The defense needs to improve and fast, no more giving up massive gains on 3rd downs and they need to get some picks! Still early in the season. It's week 2, have some faith

boonedocksaint 09-16-2012 03:37 PM

Re: Drew Brees is turning into Brett Favre...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory9289 (Post 439086)
Look at the position he is constantly put in. O-line is really shifty.

the offensive line is TERRIBLE!!!!! i never knew how important carl nicks was. we cant outscore teams anymore cause drew has no time to do anything.

yeah, drew looks bad and is trying to do too much (ala brett favre), but, what choice does he have!?

AllSaints 09-16-2012 03:37 PM

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Lol Bree's will be fine its week 2... All ya bandwagon fans since 09 jus jump off ...

iWho_Dat 09-16-2012 03:37 PM

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It's not drews fault. If we wouldn't have to play catch up every single game. And the opposing defense get pressure with a 3-4 man rush Drew wouldn't do that. It's not Drews fault were in this situation. It's a under performing defense that lets anybody and everybody walk into the endzone. And half ass do their part. Give me Tez Wilson Gallett, Hicks, Abdul-Quddos and the peanut vendor, I'm sick of the offense having to play catch up against teams we should have no problems beating. Pathetic. That u would blame this loss on Drew.

Jamessr 09-16-2012 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 439109)
Lol Bree's will be fine its week 2... All ya bandwagon fans since 09 jus jump off ...

Don't be an a$$hole becaquse I have an opinion man. I'm guessing 05 fans are better? You really need to go there bro?

Boutte 09-16-2012 03:48 PM

Re: Drew Brees is turning into Brett Favre...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 439084)
Compairing Drew to Brett doesn't mean I hate the man or I'm a hater. Just his playstyle of throwing an interception at the worst possible times is the comparison

Sorry. I wasn't talking about you in particular. I think that last int was because he knew he had to make some thing happen on THAT play.

I'm just disappointed to see so many people turn on the guy. Especially those who blame it on his signing a big contract.

thebdj 09-16-2012 04:01 PM

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Wow let's not all start going for each other's throats! The comment about bandwagon fans is a bit pathetic. Everyone can have an opinion and spark debate.

Based on picks, I have always said that the worst part and probably one of the few or ONLY bad parts of Drew Brees' game is his inability to do the dirty stuff. Sometimes he should take a sack or throw the ball away but he tries to slot it into tight gaps to keep the chains moving and that can end up badly. Hey he trusts his arm and why wouldn't you when you hold so many NFL records and are one of the best NFL QBs of all time? But in my opinion I'd be hapier him throwing it away sometimes.

His O-Line has not looked good. Strief is mediocre and I think we are seeing how much Bushrod got from Nicks. Grubbs is ok at guard but is not helping Bushrod out. I think Nicks made Bushrod look better and Jermon played up to this. It gelled.

On his day Brees is one of or THE best in the NFL right now. With the pressure he is getting and more importantly the ridiculous ask of coming back from 3 scores down what seems to be week after week (or has the potential to be) you tell me another QB who wouldn't also be in trouble. You think Rodgers and Brady would dig out of this one? I don't think so.

We all care for the team and want it play better but we do need to brace ourselves for a long season and if our D doesn't start making some plays soon, we could see this turning into a weekly occurrence :(

Danno 09-16-2012 04:03 PM

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Give Drew more than 2 seconds to throw and he'll be fine.

TheOak 09-16-2012 04:07 PM

OP is ludicrous. I can handle the doom and gloom and panicky patty antics; but, Bret Favre? That crosses lines.

Drew has not done anything out of character this season.. That is how Drew has played for a few years now..

That o-line is a different story.

Jamessr 09-16-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 439181)
OP is ludicrous. I can handle the doom and gloom and panicky patty antics; but, Bret Favre? That crosses lines.

Drew has not done anything out of character this season.. That is how Drew has played for a few years now..

That o-line is a different story.

Carefull bro... according to some you've only been a fan since 2009...

mutineer10 09-16-2012 04:13 PM

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One of Favre's past backups is available ... just sayin'

AllSaints 09-16-2012 04:13 PM

Re: Drew Brees is turning into Brett Favre...
 
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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 439125)
Don't be an a$$hole becaquse I have an opinion man. I'm guessing 05 fans are better? You really need to go there bro?

Wasn't to u bro.... Jus it's week to if u don't think Bree's can do it jump off the wagon... He is our qb and we have to be behind him he has a lot of pressure on him n with r d playin like it is u can't blame r 0-2 start on him

lee909 09-16-2012 04:25 PM

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The defense is putting the whole offence behind the cue ball every possesions.They are getting terrible field position everytime the take over.
They must be taking over on their own 20yrd line 8/10 this season.

Still too many drops being made on both sides of the ball.


Big game next week now.
Just a case of trying spilt games now until Vitt can come back.
Kromer needs to get back tosorting the O-Line is horrific

Garry42 09-16-2012 04:31 PM

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Field position and a suspect O Line is the problem right now. Drew hasn't been able to work his magic due to the pressure he is getting. O line has to stiffen up.....and our receivers have to start catching the ball!! Some of the drops today were inexcusable!

TheOak 09-16-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 439189)
Carefull bro... according to some you've only been a fan since 2009...

I'm not your "Bro". According to some what?

Turbo Saint 09-16-2012 04:43 PM

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this is pathetic...put on a viqueens jersey then.

frankeefrank 09-16-2012 05:28 PM

Re: Drew Brees is turning into Brett Favre...
 
Ha
Would love to argue with you, but can't.

aintasinner 09-16-2012 06:20 PM

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Oh ye of little faith. I refuse to believe the Saints won't bounce back. Even if they don't, they have always showed faith and love for their fan base and we need to return the faith and love. They have a lot to deal with this year. Let's show them some support. Who Dat?!!!

TheOak 09-16-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by aintasinner (Post 439323)
Oh ye of little faith. I refuse to believe the Saints won't bounce back. Even if they don't, they have always showed faith and love for their fan base and we need to return the faith and love. They have a lot to deal with this year. Let's show them some support. Who Dat?!!!

Great point and WELCOME TO B&G!

If the coin were flipped, and the Saints ran off after Katrina how would we feel? If they did nothing but *****, moan and cry to the media about their dome being in bad shape... how would we feel?

We owe them a little more loyalty.

bobdog86 09-16-2012 07:13 PM

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Bottom line, Defense is in transition.....it will take time and yes at the expense of some wins. If anyone thought we would be 13-3 or 12-4 then I want some of what you are smoking. Offense can't SOLELY carry the team but from what I see and read, people expect them to. Gonna be an up and down year, when we right the ship and the defense buys into Spag's program we'll be fine. Please keep the faith and except it for it is.

QBREES9 09-16-2012 11:07 PM

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More crazy talk.

Saint_LB 09-17-2012 05:34 AM

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Drew Brees has nobody to blame but himself for what is beginning to look like an off year for him. He even went as far as to say words to the effect that people coming and going and people holding out for the most they could get on what may be their last big contract was part of the game.

QB's looking bad because of lack of protection is also part of the game. Drew...you have to take the bad with the good.

Jamessr 09-17-2012 09:53 AM

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Starting to look like Brees can't and won't be blamed for crap. People bad mouth the defense and even call out players and coaches. However you place any blame on Brees people are called bandwagoners and told to put on Vikings jerseys. However it's just not the defense, the offense including Brees has to step up big time

TheOak 09-17-2012 10:06 AM

Re: Drew Brees is turning into Brett Favre...
 
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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 439668)
Starting to look like Brees can't and won't be blamed for crap. People bad mouth the defense and even call out players and coaches. However you place any blame on Brees people are called bandwagoners and told to put on Vikings jerseys. However it's just not the defense, the offense including Brees has to step up big time

1. You are entitled to your opinion.. That would be the title of this thread I am going to presume. I am entitled to mine... That would be my first reply. So its a wash.

2. When you blame 1 man out of 11... See the problem there?

3. If the defense could make someone punt, the offense would not have to play every game like it is the Super Bowl.

4. When our offense is 3rd in the league and our defense is 32nd... I have trouble laying too much blame on the offense.

5. When our opponents offenses are having news worthy outings against our defense I have trouble blaming the offense.

6. When our offense is averaging 422 yards and 30 points per game, I have trouble blaming them.

So yea.... Empirically it is the defense.

Mardigras9 09-17-2012 11:26 AM

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Farve, wtf? That's funny.

Srgt. Hulka 09-17-2012 04:07 PM

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I just found this thread, and I haven't read any of the posts, so I don't know how anybody else responded, but to compare Brees to Favre, I'd ludacris (sp). The only reason Brees looks like a cowboy out there, is because he's running for his life on EVERY play. Our ******* offensive line is just that, offensive. They suck. Hell, I can frikkin block better than they can. Give Brees 2-3 more seconds and he'll tear defenses apart. The same goes with our defensive line. They are giving quarterbacks all day long to throw. Our defensive secondary has lanes in it as big as the Mississippi River. We better get some fundamentals down, and we better get them quick.


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