Is Officiating this season ruining the NFL?

jeanpierre · 09-17-2012, 10:04 AM

I keep blogging that if safety and integrity were such a factor, then why the beat down on the Saints and why the inconsistent application of practice with the officiating?

alexonfyre · 09-17-2012, 10:26 AM

The replacements have made some significantly worse calls than the normal refs, but not on the stuff like False Starts and PI, all refs make questionable calls like those all the time. The bad calls are giving the Redskins a 9 yard first down last week, giving the Seahawks and the Rams 4 timeouts and upholding the spot of the ball after Rex Ryan challenged a fumble call and the tape showed Issac Redman down in the backfield.

SaintsBro · 09-17-2012, 12:23 PM

The replacement refs also definitely have problems with calling pass interference and contact, and it's not just Harper and the Saints, it's league wide. If the league wants to change the rules of the game, what can and can't be done on a passing play, they should just say so.

Mardigras9 · 09-17-2012, 01:41 PM

The missed calls and inconsistencies are consistant in every game, so both teams are having to deal with the replacements refs calls. It is not benifiting or penalizing either team more than the other.

Budsdrinker · 09-18-2012, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Nope. Officials have always made bad calls, it's just that the replacement refs are under the microscope by everyone and their mistakes are magnified. Remember the coin toss flop when everyone on TV heard what the call was but the ref still got it wrong. Can't blame everything on the replacements. yes they are making mistakes but the real ones did too.

OK, after watching the game last night I have to change my opinion. Twice they walked off the wrong yardage on penalties and missed a fumble recovery when the Broncos came out of the pile with the ball. They almost lost total control of the game. Looked a lot one sided in their calls. Ticky tack PI on defense yet some receivers got away with push offs.

NuNu318 · 09-18-2012, 11:00 AM

It didn't have anything to do with OUR team losing... but you can't sit here and tell me this past week in football wasn't the THE WORST officiated football week ever. With the worst of them being yesterday on the ONE night everybody and they mama watches NFL football...complete and utter failure is what the NFL is continuing to display. I mean yeah the regular officials screw up...their human. But they also have been throughly trained for YEARS and actually KNOW THE RULES and knows how to mediate and control players.....its unacceptable...No matter if the Saints are victim of it or not.

SaintsBro · 09-18-2012, 11:01 AM

Yeah I was concerned about the push-offs, because Atlanta does that ALL THE FREAKING TIME. They will ride that pony as long as the league lets them get away with it. There were also a lot of illegal picks in the Lions/49ers game the other night that were not getting called -- it was like you could see the Niners were like, "okay, they're not calling it, we are gonna do this all day until the refs make us stop." Early in the game you could see the Niners would sorta look around guiltily for a flag on the ground after they did a pick on somebody, then when they didn't get called for it, they just went to town with it.

lumm0x · 09-18-2012, 01:40 PM

My comments are unrelated to the calls in Saints games specifically. In watching any game so far the officials have been inconsistent, erroneous, nervous making calls and calling teams the wrong name or unable to remember the team name. It's bush league and just one more thing Goodell is ignoring that jeopardizes the integrity of the game. And like everything else he will likely continue to half ass deal with it in an incompitent manner.

saintfan · 09-18-2012, 01:45 PM

The fact of the matter is the officials DO matter. They are professionals just as the players and the coaches are professionals - on the highest level of the sport, and anything less is a watered-down product.

We know first hand of the calls that have gone against us. Perhaps one even cost us the Washington game? Maybe. Maybe not. But that's the rub. It's the "maybe". The game is not the same - it isn't on the up and up, without professionals reffing the games.

As I've said many times already, the league is going straight to hell under Roger's leadership. His entire body of work as commissioner is a farce and a slap in the face to those of us who follow the game.

SaintsBro · 09-18-2012, 01:59 PM

Anybody who says that the replacement officials aren't affecting the outcome of the games needs to talk to Jake Locker and the Titans -- who separated his shoulder making a tackle, on a fumble return that was not a fumble and should have been blown dead long before his injury. Locker left the game with his injury and the Titans went on to lose. He is wearing a brace now because of it. That play was an OBVIOUS incomplete pass and should have never been happening. Fairly serious injury.... So much for player safety.

09-17-2012, 10:04 AM	#11
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Is Officiating this season ruining the NFL? I keep blogging that if safety and integrity were such a factor, then why the beat down on the Saints and why the inconsistent application of practice with the officiating?

09-17-2012, 10:26 AM	#12
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Re: Is Officiating this season ruining the NFL? The replacements have made some significantly worse calls than the normal refs, but not on the stuff like False Starts and PI, all refs make questionable calls like those all the time. The bad calls are giving the Redskins a 9 yard first down last week, giving the Seahawks and the Rams 4 timeouts and upholding the spot of the ball after Rex Ryan challenged a fumble call and the tape showed Issac Redman down in the backfield.

09-17-2012, 12:23 PM	#13
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is Officiating this season ruining the NFL? The replacement refs also definitely have problems with calling pass interference and contact, and it's not just Harper and the Saints, it's league wide. If the league wants to change the rules of the game, what can and can't be done on a passing play, they should just say so.

09-17-2012, 01:41 PM	#14
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Is Officiating this season ruining the NFL? The missed calls and inconsistencies are consistant in every game, so both teams are having to deal with the replacements refs calls. It is not benifiting or penalizing either team more than the other.

09-18-2012, 10:46 AM	#15
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Is Officiating this season ruining the NFL? Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Nope. Officials have always made bad calls, it's just that the replacement refs are under the microscope by everyone and their mistakes are magnified. Remember the coin toss flop when everyone on TV heard what the call was but the ref still got it wrong. Can't blame everything on the replacements. yes they are making mistakes but the real ones did too. OK, after watching the game last night I have to change my opinion. Twice they walked off the wrong yardage on penalties and missed a fumble recovery when the Broncos came out of the pile with the ball. They almost lost total control of the game. Looked a lot one sided in their calls. Ticky tack PI on defense yet some receivers got away with push offs.

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09-18-2012, 11:00 AM	#16
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Is Officiating this season ruining the NFL? It didn't have anything to do with OUR team losing... but you can't sit here and tell me this past week in football wasn't the THE WORST officiated football week ever. With the worst of them being yesterday on the ONE night everybody and they mama watches NFL football...complete and utter failure is what the NFL is continuing to display. I mean yeah the regular officials screw up...their human. But they also have been throughly trained for YEARS and actually KNOW THE RULES and knows how to mediate and control players.....its unacceptable...No matter if the Saints are victim of it or not.

09-18-2012, 11:01 AM	#17
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is Officiating this season ruining the NFL? Yeah I was concerned about the push-offs, because Atlanta does that ALL THE FREAKING TIME. They will ride that pony as long as the league lets them get away with it. There were also a lot of illegal picks in the Lions/49ers game the other night that were not getting called -- it was like you could see the Niners were like, "okay, they're not calling it, we are gonna do this all day until the refs make us stop." Early in the game you could see the Niners would sorta look around guiltily for a flag on the ground after they did a pick on somebody, then when they didn't get called for it, they just went to town with it.

09-18-2012, 01:40 PM	#18
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Is Officiating this season ruining the NFL? My comments are unrelated to the calls in Saints games specifically. In watching any game so far the officials have been inconsistent, erroneous, nervous making calls and calling teams the wrong name or unable to remember the team name. It's bush league and just one more thing Goodell is ignoring that jeopardizes the integrity of the game. And like everything else he will likely continue to half ass deal with it in an incompitent manner.

09-18-2012, 01:45 PM	#19
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is Officiating this season ruining the NFL? The fact of the matter is the officials DO matter. They are professionals just as the players and the coaches are professionals - on the highest level of the sport, and anything less is a watered-down product. We know first hand of the calls that have gone against us. Perhaps one even cost us the Washington game? Maybe. Maybe not. But that's the rub. It's the "maybe". The game is not the same - it isn't on the up and up, without professionals reffing the games. As I've said many times already, the league is going straight to hell under Roger's leadership. His entire body of work as commissioner is a farce and a slap in the face to those of us who follow the game.
	C'mon Man...

09-18-2012, 01:59 PM	#20
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is Officiating this season ruining the NFL? Anybody who says that the replacement officials aren't affecting the outcome of the games needs to talk to Jake Locker and the Titans -- who separated his shoulder making a tackle, on a fumble return that was not a fumble and should have been blown dead long before his injury. Locker left the game with his injury and the Titans went on to lose. He is wearing a brace now because of it. That play was an OBVIOUS incomplete pass and should have never been happening. Fairly serious injury.... So much for player safety.