Why you shouldnt panic just yet.

TheOak · 09-17-2012, 09:11 AM

Yet another "way of looking at things" to keep you from buying a rope.

0-2 only looks bad if you put it in that context if we lost two in a row in week 8-9 would you be as worried? Say we were 7-2... would the season be over?

What everyone is missing is that one game where everything comes together... That will happen.

All players from 2-0 teams
If we were 0-2 and had Kevin Kolb as QB... Buy some rope
If we were 0-2 and our best Wide Receiver was Brent Celek... Buy some rope
If we were 0-2 and our best rusher was Jackie Battle... Buy some rope
If we were 0-2 and our best Tight End is Jeff King... Buy some rope

We are 0-2 with Drew Brees, Marques Colston, Pierre Thomas, and Jimmy Graham..

So we have arguably the best QB, TE in the league and one of the most productive RB in the league...

TheOak · 09-17-2012, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Here's why I won't panic,
Atlanta loses to Denver tonight,
Atlanta loses @ San Diego next week

Carolina loses to the Giants
Tamp loses @ Dallas
New Orleans beats KC

We're all sitting at 1-2 in the NFC South.

Take some Midol boys and tighten those bra straps, the Saints are gonna be just fine.

That is what I am screaming... Time to put on our big girl panties and tighten up!

CharityMike · 09-17-2012, 09:45 AM

Just for clarification..Atlanta will not be 0-2. They won last week. I am not panicing yet. If we drop another division game, we will be hard pressed to make the playoffs.

saintfan · 09-17-2012, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by xan

We are seriously behind the 8-ball, right up against the rail, and no c(l)ue.

Do I detect a billiards reference in there sir?

SaintsRule11 · 09-17-2012, 10:51 AM

I'm going to be the biggest Peyton Manning fan in history tonight. If the Broncos manage to win, then we're back in business trailing by only one game in the division.

RedWings44 · 09-17-2012, 10:52 AM

I like your enthusiasm. Meanwhile, the Lions lost their first game and a lot of "fans" are jumping off of the bandwagon already. I like the optimism. That is what you have to have when in the NFL

The Dude · 09-17-2012, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I will start with the obvious... If you could actually predict what will happen next week, much less the remainder of this season your ass would be filthy rich, and you wouldn't need to watch the games. Your home would reside in a zip somewhere in Vegas and you would be "The Man"! I know some feel they have some sort of mystical power, but for the sake of this argument we will all pretend to be normal and human.. K? ok...

As you can see, performance for the first two weeks is an indication of zip/zilch/nada.
0-2 We started this way in 1990 also... We made the playoffs.
1-1 In 2005 we started the season this way and went 3-13.
2-0 In 2002 we started the season this way and didn't make the play offs.

The Chair analogy
If you put a master carpenter in a room full of wood but no tools what will he have crafted by the end of a the day? At best different looking stacks of wood, they may be pretty... after all he is a master, but your not getting a chair.

If you put the average Joe in a room full of wood but a good supply of tools, I will bet he produces something resembling a a chair. It may be ugly as sin but he can make you a chair.

At the end of the day, what really matters to you? Something pretty or the chair?

For the sake of those who would like it spelled out. Chair = Super Bowl... I do not give a crap how good it looks as long as we find a way to take it all the way. There have been teams that have done it with a lot less talent, and a lot worse coaching. The odds do seem to be against us but those are just odds, not certainties.

2012 Saints = A room full of damned good tools.

Now... Unless you can prove with out a doubt that you have mystical powers, I suppose you should resign to the fact that this will be what it will be and right now you have only speculation. If all you have is speculation, and you insist on voicing it, you should seek a career with ESPIN.

A little morsel to help you:
2-0 teams in the NFC
Eagles - This will not last
Cardinals - You know this will not last
49 ers - They are looking damn good this year.

Play Off Birth We are not THAT far behind
Atlanta 0-2 after tonight. 1 conference loss no Divisional Loss
Tampa bay 1-1 1 Divisional Loss, 1-1 in Conference
Carolina 1-1 1-1 in Division and 1-1 in Conference
New Orleans 0-2 0-1 Division 0-2 Conference

The Falcons are 1-0. After tonight they will be 1-1. Love your positive way of looking at things, and you are right. Also the 07 Giants went 0-2 and their defensive stats were very close to ours. Besides Osi and Strahan they really didn't have much talent. The talent they did have like Tuck were rookies and not near the players they are today.

The Dude · 09-17-2012, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Here's why I won't panic,
Atlanta loses to Denver tonight,
Atlanta loses @ San Diego next week

Carolina loses to the Giants
Tamp loses @ Dallas
New Orleans beats KC

We're all sitting at 1-2 in the NFC South.

Take some Midol boys and tighten those bra straps, the Saints are gonna be just fine.

I heart you.

jlouhill · 09-17-2012, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I will start with the obvious... If you could actually predict what will happen next week, much less the remainder of this season your ass would be filthy rich, and you wouldn't need to watch the games. Your home would reside in a zip somewhere in Vegas and you would be "The Man"! I know some feel they have some sort of mystical power, but for the sake of this argument we will all pretend to be normal and human.. K? ok...

As you can see, performance for the first two weeks is an indication of zip/zilch/nada.
0-2 We started this way in 1990 also... We made the playoffs.
1-1 In 2005 we started the season this way and went 3-13.
2-0 In 2002 we started the season this way and didn't make the play offs.

The Chair analogy
If you put a master carpenter in a room full of wood but no tools what will he have crafted by the end of a the day? At best different looking stacks of wood, they may be pretty... after all he is a master, but your not getting a chair.

If you put the average Joe in a room full of wood but a good supply of tools, I will bet he produces something resembling a a chair. It may be ugly as sin but he can make you a chair.

At the end of the day, what really matters to you? Something pretty or the chair?

For the sake of those who would like it spelled out. Chair = Super Bowl... I do not give a crap how good it looks as long as we find a way to take it all the way. There have been teams that have done it with a lot less talent, and a lot worse coaching. The odds do seem to be against us but those are just odds, not certainties.

2012 Saints = A room full of damned good tools.

Now... Unless you can prove with out a doubt that you have mystical powers, I suppose you should resign to the fact that this will be what it will be and right now you have only speculation. If all you have is speculation, and you insist on voicing it, you should seek a career with ESPIN.

A little morsel to help you:
2-0 teams in the NFC
Eagles - This will not last
Cardinals - You know this will not last
49 ers - They are looking damn good this year.

Play Off Birth We are not THAT far behind
Atlanta 0-2 after tonight. 1 conference loss no Divisional Loss
Tampa bay 1-1 1 Divisional Loss, 1-1 in Conference
Carolina 1-1 1-1 in Division and 1-1 in Conference
New Orleans 0-2 0-1 Division 0-2 Conference

Finally some sense and not all the doom and gloom, we're done, get rid of Spags, blah, blah, talk. If we're still playing like this after four or five weeks then we can break out the forks and start sticking. As for right now I have a good feeling that this team will turn it around. We've lost two games by 8 points that we had no business even having an opportunity to tie or win. I just have a gut feeling this team will start hitting on most if not all cylinders then it will be katy bar the door. I just hope my gut is right.

Mardigras9 · 09-17-2012, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

If you want to identify turnovers, we are presently tied for third in the league for fumbles in Defense.

And while we have zero interceptions... We have had no less than 4-5 that were in the hands and dropped by our defense. that shows a hell of a lot of promise. If we catch those we are tied for first or second.

And you can't tell the defense to watch our recievers to see how to catch the ball either it would seem, lol. Love the positive posts 626, who dat.

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09-17-2012, 09:11 AM	#11
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. Yet another "way of looking at things" to keep you from buying a rope. 0-2 only looks bad if you put it in that context if we lost two in a row in week 8-9 would you be as worried? Say we were 7-2... would the season be over? What everyone is missing is that one game where everything comes together... That will happen. All players from 2-0 teams If we were 0-2 and had Kevin Kolb as QB... Buy some rope If we were 0-2 and our best Wide Receiver was Brent Celek... Buy some rope If we were 0-2 and our best rusher was Jackie Battle... Buy some rope If we were 0-2 and our best Tight End is Jeff King... Buy some rope We are 0-2 with Drew Brees, Marques Colston, Pierre Thomas, and Jimmy Graham.. So we have arguably the best QB, TE in the league and one of the most productive RB in the league... SloMotion likes this.
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09-17-2012, 09:17 AM	#12
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. Originally Posted by Danno Here's why I won't panic, Atlanta loses to Denver tonight, Atlanta loses @ San Diego next week Carolina loses to the Giants Tamp loses @ Dallas New Orleans beats KC We're all sitting at 1-2 in the NFC South. Take some Midol boys and tighten those bra straps, the Saints are gonna be just fine. That is what I am screaming... Time to put on our big girl panties and tighten up! jlouhill and SaintsBro like this.

09-17-2012, 09:45 AM	#13
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. Just for clarification..Atlanta will not be 0-2. They won last week. I am not panicing yet. If we drop another division game, we will be hard pressed to make the playoffs.

09-17-2012, 10:48 AM	#14
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09-17-2012, 10:51 AM	#15
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09-17-2012, 10:52 AM	#16
RedWings44 Lions Post KING Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Reed City, MI Posts: 36	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. I like your enthusiasm. Meanwhile, the Lions lost their first game and a lot of "fans" are jumping off of the bandwagon already. I like the optimism. That is what you have to have when in the NFL

09-17-2012, 12:05 PM	#17
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. Originally Posted by x626xBlack I will start with the obvious... If you could actually predict what will happen next week, much less the remainder of this season your ass would be filthy rich, and you wouldn't need to watch the games. Your home would reside in a zip somewhere in Vegas and you would be "The Man"! I know some feel they have some sort of mystical power, but for the sake of this argument we will all pretend to be normal and human.. K? ok... As you can see, performance for the first two weeks is an indication of zip/zilch/nada. 0-2 We started this way in 1990 also... We made the playoffs. 1-1 In 2005 we started the season this way and went 3-13. 2-0 In 2002 we started the season this way and didn't make the play offs. The Chair analogy If you put a master carpenter in a room full of wood but no tools what will he have crafted by the end of a the day? At best different looking stacks of wood, they may be pretty... after all he is a master, but your not getting a chair. If you put the average Joe in a room full of wood but a good supply of tools, I will bet he produces something resembling a a chair. It may be ugly as sin but he can make you a chair. At the end of the day, what really matters to you? Something pretty or the chair? For the sake of those who would like it spelled out. Chair = Super Bowl... I do not give a crap how good it looks as long as we find a way to take it all the way. There have been teams that have done it with a lot less talent, and a lot worse coaching. The odds do seem to be against us but those are just odds, not certainties. 2012 Saints = A room full of damned good tools. Now... Unless you can prove with out a doubt that you have mystical powers, I suppose you should resign to the fact that this will be what it will be and right now you have only speculation. If all you have is speculation, and you insist on voicing it, you should seek a career with ESPIN. A little morsel to help you: 2-0 teams in the NFC Eagles - This will not last Cardinals - You know this will not last 49 ers - They are looking damn good this year. Play Off Birth We are not THAT far behind Atlanta 0-2 after tonight. 1 conference loss no Divisional Loss Tampa bay 1-1 1 Divisional Loss, 1-1 in Conference Carolina 1-1 1-1 in Division and 1-1 in Conference New Orleans 0-2 0-1 Division 0-2 Conference The Falcons are 1-0. After tonight they will be 1-1. Love your positive way of looking at things, and you are right. Also the 07 Giants went 0-2 and their defensive stats were very close to ours. Besides Osi and Strahan they really didn't have much talent. The talent they did have like Tuck were rookies and not near the players they are today.
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09-17-2012, 12:42 PM	#18
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. Originally Posted by Danno Here's why I won't panic, Atlanta loses to Denver tonight, Atlanta loses @ San Diego next week Carolina loses to the Giants Tamp loses @ Dallas New Orleans beats KC We're all sitting at 1-2 in the NFC South. Take some Midol boys and tighten those bra straps, the Saints are gonna be just fine. I heart you.
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09-17-2012, 12:43 PM	#19
jlouhill 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Denton, Tx. Posts: 692	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. Originally Posted by x626xBlack I will start with the obvious... If you could actually predict what will happen next week, much less the remainder of this season your ass would be filthy rich, and you wouldn't need to watch the games. Your home would reside in a zip somewhere in Vegas and you would be "The Man"! I know some feel they have some sort of mystical power, but for the sake of this argument we will all pretend to be normal and human.. K? ok... As you can see, performance for the first two weeks is an indication of zip/zilch/nada. 0-2 We started this way in 1990 also... We made the playoffs. 1-1 In 2005 we started the season this way and went 3-13. 2-0 In 2002 we started the season this way and didn't make the play offs. The Chair analogy If you put a master carpenter in a room full of wood but no tools what will he have crafted by the end of a the day? At best different looking stacks of wood, they may be pretty... after all he is a master, but your not getting a chair. If you put the average Joe in a room full of wood but a good supply of tools, I will bet he produces something resembling a a chair. It may be ugly as sin but he can make you a chair. At the end of the day, what really matters to you? Something pretty or the chair? For the sake of those who would like it spelled out. Chair = Super Bowl... I do not give a crap how good it looks as long as we find a way to take it all the way. There have been teams that have done it with a lot less talent, and a lot worse coaching. The odds do seem to be against us but those are just odds, not certainties. 2012 Saints = A room full of damned good tools. Now... Unless you can prove with out a doubt that you have mystical powers, I suppose you should resign to the fact that this will be what it will be and right now you have only speculation. If all you have is speculation, and you insist on voicing it, you should seek a career with ESPIN. A little morsel to help you: 2-0 teams in the NFC Eagles - This will not last Cardinals - You know this will not last 49 ers - They are looking damn good this year. Play Off Birth We are not THAT far behind Atlanta 0-2 after tonight. 1 conference loss no Divisional Loss Tampa bay 1-1 1 Divisional Loss, 1-1 in Conference Carolina 1-1 1-1 in Division and 1-1 in Conference New Orleans 0-2 0-1 Division 0-2 Conference Finally some sense and not all the doom and gloom, we're done, get rid of Spags, blah, blah, talk. If we're still playing like this after four or five weeks then we can break out the forks and start sticking. As for right now I have a good feeling that this team will turn it around. We've lost two games by 8 points that we had no business even having an opportunity to tie or win. I just have a gut feeling this team will start hitting on most if not all cylinders then it will be katy bar the door. I just hope my gut is right. TXGSP, TheOak and SaintsBro like this.

09-17-2012, 12:44 PM	#20
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. Originally Posted by x626xBlack If you want to identify turnovers, we are presently tied for third in the league for fumbles in Defense. And while we have zero interceptions... We have had no less than 4-5 that were in the hands and dropped by our defense. that shows a hell of a lot of promise. If we catch those we are tied for first or second. And you can't tell the defense to watch our recievers to see how to catch the ball either it would seem, lol. Love the positive posts 626, who dat. TheOak likes this.

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