Why you shouldnt panic just yet.

RedWings44 · 09-17-2012, 09:52 AM

I like your enthusiasm. Meanwhile, the Lions lost their first game and a lot of "fans" are jumping off of the bandwagon already. I like the optimism. That is what you have to have when in the NFL

The Dude · 09-17-2012, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I will start with the obvious... If you could actually predict what will happen next week, much less the remainder of this season your ass would be filthy rich, and you wouldn't need to watch the games. Your home would reside in a zip somewhere in Vegas and you would be "The Man"! I know some feel they have some sort of mystical power, but for the sake of this argument we will all pretend to be normal and human.. K? ok...

As you can see, performance for the first two weeks is an indication of zip/zilch/nada.
0-2 We started this way in 1990 also... We made the playoffs.
1-1 In 2005 we started the season this way and went 3-13.
2-0 In 2002 we started the season this way and didn't make the play offs.

The Chair analogy
If you put a master carpenter in a room full of wood but no tools what will he have crafted by the end of a the day? At best different looking stacks of wood, they may be pretty... after all he is a master, but your not getting a chair.

If you put the average Joe in a room full of wood but a good supply of tools, I will bet he produces something resembling a a chair. It may be ugly as sin but he can make you a chair.

At the end of the day, what really matters to you? Something pretty or the chair?

For the sake of those who would like it spelled out. Chair = Super Bowl... I do not give a crap how good it looks as long as we find a way to take it all the way. There have been teams that have done it with a lot less talent, and a lot worse coaching. The odds do seem to be against us but those are just odds, not certainties.

2012 Saints = A room full of damned good tools.

Now... Unless you can prove with out a doubt that you have mystical powers, I suppose you should resign to the fact that this will be what it will be and right now you have only speculation. If all you have is speculation, and you insist on voicing it, you should seek a career with ESPIN.

A little morsel to help you:
2-0 teams in the NFC
Eagles - This will not last
Cardinals - You know this will not last
49 ers - They are looking damn good this year.

Play Off Birth We are not THAT far behind
Atlanta 0-2 after tonight. 1 conference loss no Divisional Loss
Tampa bay 1-1 1 Divisional Loss, 1-1 in Conference
Carolina 1-1 1-1 in Division and 1-1 in Conference
New Orleans 0-2 0-1 Division 0-2 Conference

The Falcons are 1-0. After tonight they will be 1-1. Love your positive way of looking at things, and you are right. Also the 07 Giants went 0-2 and their defensive stats were very close to ours. Besides Osi and Strahan they really didn't have much talent. The talent they did have like Tuck were rookies and not near the players they are today.

TheOak · 09-17-2012, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

The Falcons are 1-0. After tonight they will be 1-1. Love your positive way of looking at things, and you are right. Also the 07 Giants went 0-2 and their defensive stats were very close to ours. Besides Osi and Strahan they really didn't have much talent. The talent they did have like Tuck were rookies and not near the players they are today.

I stand corrected... That was a type-o

jlouhill · 09-17-2012, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I will start with the obvious... If you could actually predict what will happen next week, much less the remainder of this season your ass would be filthy rich, and you wouldn't need to watch the games. Your home would reside in a zip somewhere in Vegas and you would be "The Man"! I know some feel they have some sort of mystical power, but for the sake of this argument we will all pretend to be normal and human.. K? ok...

As you can see, performance for the first two weeks is an indication of zip/zilch/nada.
0-2 We started this way in 1990 also... We made the playoffs.
1-1 In 2005 we started the season this way and went 3-13.
2-0 In 2002 we started the season this way and didn't make the play offs.

The Chair analogy
If you put a master carpenter in a room full of wood but no tools what will he have crafted by the end of a the day? At best different looking stacks of wood, they may be pretty... after all he is a master, but your not getting a chair.

If you put the average Joe in a room full of wood but a good supply of tools, I will bet he produces something resembling a a chair. It may be ugly as sin but he can make you a chair.

At the end of the day, what really matters to you? Something pretty or the chair?

For the sake of those who would like it spelled out. Chair = Super Bowl... I do not give a crap how good it looks as long as we find a way to take it all the way. There have been teams that have done it with a lot less talent, and a lot worse coaching. The odds do seem to be against us but those are just odds, not certainties.

2012 Saints = A room full of damned good tools.

Now... Unless you can prove with out a doubt that you have mystical powers, I suppose you should resign to the fact that this will be what it will be and right now you have only speculation. If all you have is speculation, and you insist on voicing it, you should seek a career with ESPIN.

A little morsel to help you:
2-0 teams in the NFC
Eagles - This will not last
Cardinals - You know this will not last
49 ers - They are looking damn good this year.

Play Off Birth We are not THAT far behind
Atlanta 0-2 after tonight. 1 conference loss no Divisional Loss
Tampa bay 1-1 1 Divisional Loss, 1-1 in Conference
Carolina 1-1 1-1 in Division and 1-1 in Conference
New Orleans 0-2 0-1 Division 0-2 Conference

Finally some sense and not all the doom and gloom, we're done, get rid of Spags, blah, blah, talk. If we're still playing like this after four or five weeks then we can break out the forks and start sticking. As for right now I have a good feeling that this team will turn it around. We've lost two games by 8 points that we had no business even having an opportunity to tie or win. I just have a gut feeling this team will start hitting on most if not all cylinders then it will be katy bar the door. I just hope my gut is right.

GoofySaint · 09-17-2012, 01:23 PM

I'm not panicking for 2 reasons.

Spags system takes awhile and this is proved by the 2007 giants, during that time the giants kind of sucked(similar to us).

I want to see how Vitt does.

SaintsRule11 · 09-17-2012, 07:58 PM

We need to get that one victory under our belt to get some confidence. That will come against the incompetent Kansas City Chiefs. We win by 20 you can write it down.

Also, why did the bad Peyton Manning have to show up at the Georgia Dome?

The Dude · 09-18-2012, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsRule11

We need to get that one victory under our belt to get some confidence. That will come against the incompetent Kansas City Chiefs. We win by 20 you can write it down.

Also, why did the bad Peyton Manning have to show up at the Georgia Dome?

As bad as he was, as many interceptions as he threw, as many turnovers they had total, as many one sided calls that were against them, they still almost won that game. IN THE GEORGIA DOME.

Barry from MS · 09-17-2012, 08:15 PM

Nice post...like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy's "Don't Panic".

It also helps that I've suffered through some really, REALLY bad Saints teams. We used to think that 0-2 was good if the games were at least close.

pumpkindriver · 09-18-2012, 12:42 AM

I'm not ready to throw in the towel on this season either. The last 2 offensive styles gave our defense fits but here comes KC with a more conventional style offense and we're home. This works in our favor. We will win this one and get off the snide. And look around the NFL this past week, it was strange.

TheOak · 09-19-2012, 08:43 AM

This is what drives me nuts LOL.

Manning throws three INT's and people say "He still almost won the game"

Drew throws two and the beating starts.. lol

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09-17-2012, 09:52 AM	#1
RedWings44 Lions Post KING Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Reed City, MI Posts: 36	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. I like your enthusiasm. Meanwhile, the Lions lost their first game and a lot of "fans" are jumping off of the bandwagon already. I like the optimism. That is what you have to have when in the NFL

09-17-2012, 11:05 AM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. Originally Posted by x626xBlack I will start with the obvious... If you could actually predict what will happen next week, much less the remainder of this season your ass would be filthy rich, and you wouldn't need to watch the games. Your home would reside in a zip somewhere in Vegas and you would be "The Man"! I know some feel they have some sort of mystical power, but for the sake of this argument we will all pretend to be normal and human.. K? ok... As you can see, performance for the first two weeks is an indication of zip/zilch/nada. 0-2 We started this way in 1990 also... We made the playoffs. 1-1 In 2005 we started the season this way and went 3-13. 2-0 In 2002 we started the season this way and didn't make the play offs. The Chair analogy If you put a master carpenter in a room full of wood but no tools what will he have crafted by the end of a the day? At best different looking stacks of wood, they may be pretty... after all he is a master, but your not getting a chair. If you put the average Joe in a room full of wood but a good supply of tools, I will bet he produces something resembling a a chair. It may be ugly as sin but he can make you a chair. At the end of the day, what really matters to you? Something pretty or the chair? For the sake of those who would like it spelled out. Chair = Super Bowl... I do not give a crap how good it looks as long as we find a way to take it all the way. There have been teams that have done it with a lot less talent, and a lot worse coaching. The odds do seem to be against us but those are just odds, not certainties. 2012 Saints = A room full of damned good tools. Now... Unless you can prove with out a doubt that you have mystical powers, I suppose you should resign to the fact that this will be what it will be and right now you have only speculation. If all you have is speculation, and you insist on voicing it, you should seek a career with ESPIN. A little morsel to help you: 2-0 teams in the NFC Eagles - This will not last Cardinals - You know this will not last 49 ers - They are looking damn good this year. Play Off Birth We are not THAT far behind Atlanta 0-2 after tonight. 1 conference loss no Divisional Loss Tampa bay 1-1 1 Divisional Loss, 1-1 in Conference Carolina 1-1 1-1 in Division and 1-1 in Conference New Orleans 0-2 0-1 Division 0-2 Conference The Falcons are 1-0. After tonight they will be 1-1. Love your positive way of looking at things, and you are right. Also the 07 Giants went 0-2 and their defensive stats were very close to ours. Besides Osi and Strahan they really didn't have much talent. The talent they did have like Tuck were rookies and not near the players they are today.
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09-17-2012, 11:59 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. Originally Posted by The Dude The Falcons are 1-0. After tonight they will be 1-1. Love your positive way of looking at things, and you are right. Also the 07 Giants went 0-2 and their defensive stats were very close to ours. Besides Osi and Strahan they really didn't have much talent. The talent they did have like Tuck were rookies and not near the players they are today. I stand corrected... That was a type-o

09-17-2012, 11:43 AM	#4
jlouhill 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Denton, Tx. Posts: 692	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. Originally Posted by x626xBlack I will start with the obvious... If you could actually predict what will happen next week, much less the remainder of this season your ass would be filthy rich, and you wouldn't need to watch the games. Your home would reside in a zip somewhere in Vegas and you would be "The Man"! I know some feel they have some sort of mystical power, but for the sake of this argument we will all pretend to be normal and human.. K? ok... As you can see, performance for the first two weeks is an indication of zip/zilch/nada. 0-2 We started this way in 1990 also... We made the playoffs. 1-1 In 2005 we started the season this way and went 3-13. 2-0 In 2002 we started the season this way and didn't make the play offs. The Chair analogy If you put a master carpenter in a room full of wood but no tools what will he have crafted by the end of a the day? At best different looking stacks of wood, they may be pretty... after all he is a master, but your not getting a chair. If you put the average Joe in a room full of wood but a good supply of tools, I will bet he produces something resembling a a chair. It may be ugly as sin but he can make you a chair. At the end of the day, what really matters to you? Something pretty or the chair? For the sake of those who would like it spelled out. Chair = Super Bowl... I do not give a crap how good it looks as long as we find a way to take it all the way. There have been teams that have done it with a lot less talent, and a lot worse coaching. The odds do seem to be against us but those are just odds, not certainties. 2012 Saints = A room full of damned good tools. Now... Unless you can prove with out a doubt that you have mystical powers, I suppose you should resign to the fact that this will be what it will be and right now you have only speculation. If all you have is speculation, and you insist on voicing it, you should seek a career with ESPIN. A little morsel to help you: 2-0 teams in the NFC Eagles - This will not last Cardinals - You know this will not last 49 ers - They are looking damn good this year. Play Off Birth We are not THAT far behind Atlanta 0-2 after tonight. 1 conference loss no Divisional Loss Tampa bay 1-1 1 Divisional Loss, 1-1 in Conference Carolina 1-1 1-1 in Division and 1-1 in Conference New Orleans 0-2 0-1 Division 0-2 Conference Finally some sense and not all the doom and gloom, we're done, get rid of Spags, blah, blah, talk. If we're still playing like this after four or five weeks then we can break out the forks and start sticking. As for right now I have a good feeling that this team will turn it around. We've lost two games by 8 points that we had no business even having an opportunity to tie or win. I just have a gut feeling this team will start hitting on most if not all cylinders then it will be katy bar the door. I just hope my gut is right. TXGSP, TheOak and SaintsBro like this.

09-17-2012, 01:23 PM	#5
GoofySaint 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Philipsburg, PA Posts: 161	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. I'm not panicking for 2 reasons. Spags system takes awhile and this is proved by the 2007 giants, during that time the giants kind of sucked(similar to us). I want to see how Vitt does.

09-17-2012, 07:58 PM	#6
SaintsRule11 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 277	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. We need to get that one victory under our belt to get some confidence. That will come against the incompetent Kansas City Chiefs. We win by 20 you can write it down. Also, why did the bad Peyton Manning have to show up at the Georgia Dome?
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09-18-2012, 12:27 AM	#7
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. Originally Posted by SaintsRule11 We need to get that one victory under our belt to get some confidence. That will come against the incompetent Kansas City Chiefs. We win by 20 you can write it down. Also, why did the bad Peyton Manning have to show up at the Georgia Dome? As bad as he was, as many interceptions as he threw, as many turnovers they had total, as many one sided calls that were against them, they still almost won that game. IN THE GEORGIA DOME.
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09-17-2012, 08:15 PM	#8
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. Nice post...like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy's "Don't Panic". It also helps that I've suffered through some really, REALLY bad Saints teams. We used to think that 0-2 was good if the games were at least close. Seer1 likes this.

09-18-2012, 12:42 AM	#9
pumpkindriver 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Killeen, Tx. Posts: 932	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. I'm not ready to throw in the towel on this season either. The last 2 offensive styles gave our defense fits but here comes KC with a more conventional style offense and we're home. This works in our favor. We will win this one and get off the snide. And look around the NFL this past week, it was strange. SaintsBro likes this.

09-19-2012, 08:43 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: Why you shouldnt panic just yet. This is what drives me nuts LOL. Manning throws three INT's and people say "He still almost won the game" Drew throws two and the beating starts.. lol SaintsBro, CharityMike, SloMotion and 1 others like this.

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