Have we forgotten? Monday... Vilma Day!

TheOak · 09-17-2012, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I was thinking:

Pay for Performance = salary cap violation

Pay to Injure = suspensions reinstated

I may be way off base though

Those items may require proof of intent or action.

Conduct detrimental - well that could be a fart on national TV.

W. Kovacs · 09-17-2012, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

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Thanks, Halo. I should have stated I was reporting what I heard on ESPN...

Halo · 09-17-2012, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I was thinking:

Pay for Performance = salary cap violation

Pay to Injure = suspensions reinstated

I may be way off base though

Essentially Goodell called in Gregg Williams who pinned all this on Vilma. Sworn testimony is different than a prepared, signed "statement" so Goodell needed more assurances himself.

Goodell has an out. If Vilma's fellow linebackers give testimony that counters Gregg Williams testimony and Vilma can prove 10k never left his account, it could make Williams look like he lied under oath. Goodell can turn it back on Williams, that he went to war on faulty evidence.

Consider Williams may have sold his soul for the chance to ever return to coaching in the NFL... he may have said ANYTHING.

I'm thinking the plot thickens.

|Mitch| · 09-17-2012, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I'm thinking the plot thickens.

TheOak · 09-17-2012, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Essentially Goodell called in Gregg Williams who pinned all this on Vilma. Sworn testimony is different than a prepared, signed "statement" so Goodell needed more assurances himself.

Goodell has an out. If Vilma's fellow linebackers give testimony that counters Gregg Williams testimony and Vilma can prove 10k never left his account, it could make Williams look like he lied under oath. Goodell can turn it back on Williams, that he went to war on faulty evidence.

Consider Williams may have sold his soul for the chance to ever return to coaching in the NFL... he may have said ANYTHING.

I'm thinking the plot thickens.

I'm thinking a good lawyer can make Williams look like a needy crackhead on the stand.

Marlboro Man · 09-17-2012, 08:00 PM

Over on SR they say that the nfl showed him a sworn affidavit signed by GW that he offered 10k for Farve to be injured.

kcsaints · 09-17-2012, 08:33 PM

I am a big fan of Jon Vilma and have huge respect for him and how he has handled this whole f'in cluster. This whole thing is just rank and stinks of something much bigger, IMHO

Jonathan Vilma‏@JonVilma51

The nfl has 1 affidavit saying i did it. I have NINE saying i didnt. Do the math. Hush haters.

kcsaints · 09-17-2012, 08:34 PM

Was GW really bullied? WTF?! AND signed this affadavit 3 days ago? Again...WTF?

Jonathan Vilma‏@JonVilma51

You obviously want me to be guilty if you cant see that gregg was bullied to sign the affidavit. He signed 3days ago! #weakattempt

Seer1 · 09-17-2012, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Over on SR they say that the nfl showed him a sworn affidavit signed by GW that he offered 10k for Farve to be injured.

How about a sworn affidavit that he actually paid someone 10k for a Farve hit?

TheOak · 09-18-2012, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

How about a sworn affidavit that he actually paid someone 10k for a Farve hit?

I'll bet a months salary that no one can find that....

Sh1t! Did I just put up a bounty?

09-17-2012, 06:51 PM	#21
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I was thinking: Pay for Performance = salary cap violation Pay to Injure = suspensions reinstated I may be way off base though Those items may require proof of intent or action. Conduct detrimental - well that could be a fart on national TV. Halo likes this.

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W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514	Re: Have we forgotten? Monday... Vilma Day! Originally Posted by Halo Link Thanks, Halo. I should have stated I was reporting what I heard on ESPN...

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,738 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Have we forgotten? Monday... Vilma Day! Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I was thinking: Pay for Performance = salary cap violation Pay to Injure = suspensions reinstated I may be way off base though Essentially Goodell called in Gregg Williams who pinned all this on Vilma. Sworn testimony is different than a prepared, signed "statement" so Goodell needed more assurances himself. Goodell has an out. If Vilma's fellow linebackers give testimony that counters Gregg Williams testimony and Vilma can prove 10k never left his account, it could make Williams look like he lied under oath. Goodell can turn it back on Williams, that he went to war on faulty evidence. Consider Williams may have sold his soul for the chance to ever return to coaching in the NFL... he may have said ANYTHING. I'm thinking the plot thickens.
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09-17-2012, 07:00 PM	#24
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Have we forgotten? Monday... Vilma Day! Originally Posted by Halo I'm thinking the plot thickens.

09-17-2012, 07:02 PM	#25
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by Halo Essentially Goodell called in Gregg Williams who pinned all this on Vilma. Sworn testimony is different than a prepared, signed "statement" so Goodell needed more assurances himself. Goodell has an out. If Vilma's fellow linebackers give testimony that counters Gregg Williams testimony and Vilma can prove 10k never left his account, it could make Williams look like he lied under oath. Goodell can turn it back on Williams, that he went to war on faulty evidence. Consider Williams may have sold his soul for the chance to ever return to coaching in the NFL... he may have said ANYTHING. I'm thinking the plot thickens. I'm thinking a good lawyer can make Williams look like a needy crackhead on the stand. Halo and kcsaints like this.

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kcsaints Site Donor 2014 Kansas Who Dat Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 380	Re: Have we forgotten? Monday... Vilma Day! I am a big fan of Jon Vilma and have huge respect for him and how he has handled this whole f'in cluster. This whole thing is just rank and stinks of something much bigger, IMHO Jonathan Vilma‏@JonVilma51 The nfl has 1 affidavit saying i did it. I have NINE saying i didnt. Do the math. Hush haters. savoyk likes this.

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kcsaints Site Donor 2014 Kansas Who Dat Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 380	Re: Have we forgotten? Monday... Vilma Day! Was GW really bullied? WTF?! AND signed this affadavit 3 days ago? Again...WTF? Jonathan Vilma‏@JonVilma51 You obviously want me to be guilty if you cant see that gregg was bullied to sign the affidavit. He signed 3days ago! #weakattempt

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Have we forgotten? Monday... Vilma Day! Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Over on SR they say that the nfl showed him a sworn affidavit signed by GW that he offered 10k for Farve to be injured. How about a sworn affidavit that he actually paid someone 10k for a Farve hit? kcsaints likes this.

09-18-2012, 08:45 AM	#30
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by Seer1 How about a sworn affidavit that he actually paid someone 10k for a Farve hit? I'll bet a months salary that no one can find that.... Sh1t! Did I just put up a bounty?

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