Coaching is garbage

SloMotion · 09-18-2012, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I want a defense that can be dominant and not just for one year

I'm still going to watch every game, every week

It may sound bad, but instead of getting frustrated like I normally would I've accepted a couple of things;

If we struggle this year and I really hope we don't, we get a good pick in the draft
I really hope our defense scheme kicks in and we go on a tear, but after getting very frustrated in years past I've kinda thought there's not much we can do and it's healthy to vent your anger on here where people will listen

I'm in no way hoping we struggle and I hope we go on a win streak like last year, try to think positives, we have something to build upon and our defense can't get any worse

If defense doesnt work, get rid of spags and get someone that can turn our defense into something that remotely challenges opponents

I agree, for the most part, except for the 'get rid of Spags' part ... when you're faced with a situation like this, you have to allow for things to return to normal, ie Payton returns, and then a certain amount of time to see exactly what the team does before making player/coach changes.

For now, it is what it is ... it sucks having your team hamstrung by forces other then those on the field and it makes me dislike Goodell all the more with every passing week and every game I watch.

There is a special place in hell for politicians and Commissioners.

saintsfan1976 · 09-18-2012, 09:27 AM

You guys crack me up!

This defense is loaded with talent. Sure they're not playing like it so far, but that's no reason to start hanging pink slips!

Right now (and for the first month) this new scheme is making the players think more than act/react.

It will come.

Mardigras9 · 09-18-2012, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

You guys crack me up!

This defense is loaded with talent. Sure they're not playing like it so far, but that's no reason to start hanging pink slips!

Right now (and for the first month) this new scheme is making the players think more than act/react.

It will come.

Man I hope this is the case. And I hope it kicks in before we get too far behind.

Ashley · 09-18-2012, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

You guys crack me up!

This defense is loaded with talent. Sure they're not playing like it so far, but that's no reason to start hanging pink slips!

Right now (and for the first month) this new scheme is making the players think more than act/react.

It will come.

Correction, we are loaded with a bunch of first round underachievers. Ellis, Jenkins,Robinson, are all not playing as 1st rounders. Smith has never been consistent.
I will use Ellis for this, this is a contract year for him? The way he has played so far and in the past. Do you think he is going to sign a health contract with another team. Because it wont be with us.
. Cameron it's early on him but I do like what I see.
So if I am missing something on our 1st round picks, that as a group is not what i would call loaded talent.

Speedy Ron · 09-18-2012, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

Correction, we are loaded with a bunch of first round underachievers. Ellis, Jenkins,Robinson, are all not playing as 1st rounders. Smith has never been consistent.
I will use Ellis for this, this is a contract year for him? The way he has played so far and in the past. Do you think he is going to sign a health contract with another team. Because it wont be with us.
. Cameron it's early on him but I do like what I see.
So if I am missing something on our 1st round picks, that as a group is not what i would call loaded talent.

I will somewhat correct you. They were talented... in college. These guys came from high profile schools that got a ton of media attention and they played no one. Their draft stock shot through the roof and now here we are with a bunch of wet farts that can't tackle or do anything else first round defensive guys are supposed to do. Some of them have played for multiple coordinators and they have NEVER really produced. scheme you can teach but the intangibles is what these guys don't have. Our scouts appear great but this coaching change has exposed the fact that most of our offense is a system. Payton's system made people great with Brees. On the defensive side of the ball these guys are justbflat out not good. Thank god for duck hunting. It will get me through this season cause kromer will not.

vpheughan · 09-18-2012, 10:48 PM

It's amazing to me how much of it is "head games". You would think a team as talented as the Saints could work on "auto pilot".

The Dude · 09-18-2012, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I want a defense that can be dominant and not just for one year

I'm still going to watch every game, every week

It may sound bad, but instead of getting frustrated like I normally would I've accepted a couple of things;

If we struggle this year and I really hope we don't, we get a good pick in the draft
I really hope our defense scheme kicks in and we go on a tear, but after getting very frustrated in years past I've kinda thought there's not much we can do and it's healthy to vent your anger on here where people will listen

I'm in no way hoping we struggle and I hope we go on a win streak like last year, try to think positives, we have something to build upon and our defense can't get any worse

If defense doesnt work, get rid of spags and get someone that can turn our defense into something that remotely challenges opponents

Sad thing is at this point by the time our defense is dominant our offense won't be.

09-18-2012, 07:57 AM	#21
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Coaching is garbage Originally Posted by dizzle88 I want a defense that can be dominant and not just for one year I'm still going to watch every game, every week It may sound bad, but instead of getting frustrated like I normally would I've accepted a couple of things; If we struggle this year and I really hope we don't, we get a good pick in the draft I really hope our defense scheme kicks in and we go on a tear, but after getting very frustrated in years past I've kinda thought there's not much we can do and it's healthy to vent your anger on here where people will listen I'm in no way hoping we struggle and I hope we go on a win streak like last year, try to think positives, we have something to build upon and our defense can't get any worse If defense doesnt work, get rid of spags and get someone that can turn our defense into something that remotely challenges opponents I agree, for the most part, except for the 'get rid of Spags' part ... when you're faced with a situation like this, you have to allow for things to return to normal, ie Payton returns, and then a certain amount of time to see exactly what the team does before making player/coach changes. For now, it is what it is ... it sucks having your team hamstrung by forces other then those on the field and it makes me dislike Goodell all the more with every passing week and every game I watch. There is a special place in hell for politicians and Commissioners.

09-18-2012, 09:27 AM	#22
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Coaching is garbage You guys crack me up! This defense is loaded with talent. Sure they're not playing like it so far, but that's no reason to start hanging pink slips! Right now (and for the first month) this new scheme is making the players think more than act/react. It will come.

09-18-2012, 10:31 AM	#23
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Coaching is garbage Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 You guys crack me up! This defense is loaded with talent. Sure they're not playing like it so far, but that's no reason to start hanging pink slips! Right now (and for the first month) this new scheme is making the players think more than act/react. It will come. Man I hope this is the case. And I hope it kicks in before we get too far behind.

09-18-2012, 10:52 AM	#24
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Coaching is garbage Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 You guys crack me up! This defense is loaded with talent. Sure they're not playing like it so far, but that's no reason to start hanging pink slips! Right now (and for the first month) this new scheme is making the players think more than act/react. It will come. Correction, we are loaded with a bunch of first round underachievers. Ellis, Jenkins,Robinson, are all not playing as 1st rounders. Smith has never been consistent. I will use Ellis for this, this is a contract year for him? The way he has played so far and in the past. Do you think he is going to sign a health contract with another team. Because it wont be with us. . Cameron it's early on him but I do like what I see. So if I am missing something on our 1st round picks, that as a group is not what i would call loaded talent.
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09-18-2012, 08:52 PM	#25
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	Re: Coaching is garbage Originally Posted by Ashley Correction, we are loaded with a bunch of first round underachievers. Ellis, Jenkins,Robinson, are all not playing as 1st rounders. Smith has never been consistent. I will use Ellis for this, this is a contract year for him? The way he has played so far and in the past. Do you think he is going to sign a health contract with another team. Because it wont be with us. . Cameron it's early on him but I do like what I see. So if I am missing something on our 1st round picks, that as a group is not what i would call loaded talent. I will somewhat correct you. They were talented... in college. These guys came from high profile schools that got a ton of media attention and they played no one. Their draft stock shot through the roof and now here we are with a bunch of wet farts that can't tackle or do anything else first round defensive guys are supposed to do. Some of them have played for multiple coordinators and they have NEVER really produced. scheme you can teach but the intangibles is what these guys don't have. Our scouts appear great but this coaching change has exposed the fact that most of our offense is a system. Payton's system made people great with Brees. On the defensive side of the ball these guys are justbflat out not good. Thank god for duck hunting. It will get me through this season cause kromer will not. skymike likes this.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: Coaching is garbage It's amazing to me how much of it is "head games". You would think a team as talented as the Saints could work on "auto pilot".
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Coaching is garbage Originally Posted by dizzle88 I want a defense that can be dominant and not just for one year I'm still going to watch every game, every week It may sound bad, but instead of getting frustrated like I normally would I've accepted a couple of things; If we struggle this year and I really hope we don't, we get a good pick in the draft I really hope our defense scheme kicks in and we go on a tear, but after getting very frustrated in years past I've kinda thought there's not much we can do and it's healthy to vent your anger on here where people will listen I'm in no way hoping we struggle and I hope we go on a win streak like last year, try to think positives, we have something to build upon and our defense can't get any worse If defense doesnt work, get rid of spags and get someone that can turn our defense into something that remotely challenges opponents Sad thing is at this point by the time our defense is dominant our offense won't be.
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