Coaching is garbage

Speedy Ron · 09-17-2012, 02:52 PM

It is really starting to show that we are playing with the 3rd string coach now. We make 0 adjustments at any point in the game. Why arent we using the TE to at least chip the defensive ends to slow them down? Payton did this all the time. I dont understand how our coaches dont know to make simple adjustments. Was payton the only one with any sense??? Its such a bad feeling watching this team play right now. Brees will be injured this year...no doubt. I dont think he has ever gotten his @$$ kicked this bad in his career. Kromer has sealed his fate as a lifetime position coach. Whats ironic is that his unit it one of the worst on the team. Whats sad is we are losing valuable years with our best players. Losing a year when they are in their prime really blows. We had a team that 99% of nfl players wanted to be on. I really think that is going to change if we dont turn it around. Then we are going back to being a mediocre team when we were on pace to become a dynasty.

dizzle88 · 09-17-2012, 03:01 PM

I want a defense that can be dominant and not just for one year

I'm still going to watch every game, every week

It may sound bad, but instead of getting frustrated like I normally would I've accepted a couple of things;

If we struggle this year and I really hope we don't, we get a good pick in the draft
I really hope our defense scheme kicks in and we go on a tear, but after getting very frustrated in years past I've kinda thought there's not much we can do and it's healthy to vent your anger on here where people will listen

I'm in no way hoping we struggle and I hope we go on a win streak like last year, try to think positives, we have something to build upon and our defense can't get any worse

If defense doesnt work, get rid of spags and get someone that can turn our defense into something that remotely challenges opponents

CharityMike · 09-17-2012, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I want a defense that can be dominant and not just for one year

I'm still going to watch every game, every week

It may sound bad, but instead of getting frustrated like I normally would I've accepted a couple of things;

If we struggle this year and I really hope we don't, we get a good pick in the draft
I really hope our defense scheme kicks in and we go on a tear, but after getting very frustrated in years past I've kinda thought there's not much we can do and it's healthy to vent your anger on here where people will listen

I'm in no way hoping we struggle and I hope we go on a win streak like last year, try to think positives, we have something to build upon and our defense can't get any worse

If defense doesnt work, get rid of spags and get someone that can turn our defense into something that remotely challenges opponents

Well said!

Ashley · 09-17-2012, 03:08 PM

I'm not ready to throw spags under just yet. We just do not have play makers. It is what it is.
The New Orleans Saints have given up 922 total yards in the first two games.
I pulled this up only because I thought it's kind of funny New Orleans Saints preaching patience after 0-2 start | wwltv.com New Orleans

They’ve given up 372 yards on the ground and allowed Cam Newton and Robert Griffin III to complete 71.7 percent of their passes.

And Carolina and Washington have recorded 14 plays of 20-plus yards.But New Orleans linebacker Scott Shanle has one simple request.

“All I can ask for is to be a little more patient,” Shanle said. “Give us a few more games to show you who we truly are and not overreact after two games and tell us who you think we are.”

Shanle asking for us to be patient. I got 14 more weeks to be Scott

CharityMike · 09-17-2012, 03:11 PM

Really Scott...more time..I think time has passed you by dude. It don't matter how long we wait, you still gonna suck

4thqtrsaint · 09-17-2012, 03:23 PM

Coaching may well be garbage. But the one point people overlook is execution. If the players execute 50% more and we're 1-1 or 2-0 and nobody would even mention the coaching.

Dropped passes, throwing easy INTs, false start penalties, etc. those things are on the players, not the playcalling.

I also have a hard time digesting that because Payton isn't here, we're sloppy. Rooks, maybe. Veterans? I doubt it. Most of our guys have been here before.

Now, I'm not saying we don't miss Payton. But I'm saying there's blame from top to bottom that goes beyond coaching.

And I wouldn't get too excited about a high draft pick. If I remember right, we lost one this coming year too, thanks to our bud, Roger.

TheOak · 09-17-2012, 03:25 PM

If 15 more passes were caught week 1.

No one would be garbage.

|Mitch| · 09-17-2012, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by 4thqtrsaint

And I wouldn't get too excited about a high draft pick. If I remember right, we lost one this coming year too, thanks to our bud, Roger.

We lost the 2nd round pick, so a high pick would help in the first round

TheEnigma · 09-17-2012, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

It is really starting to show that we are playing with the 3rd string coach now. We make 0 adjustments at any point in the game. Why arent we using the TE to at least chip the defensive ends to slow them down? Payton did this all the time. I dont understand how our coaches dont know to make simple adjustments. Was payton the only one with any sense??? Its such a bad feeling watching this team play right now. Brees will be injured this year...no doubt. I dont think he has ever gotten his @$$ kicked this bad in his career. Kromer has sealed his fate as a lifetime position coach. Whats ironic is that his unit it one of the worst on the team. Whats sad is we are losing valuable years with our best players. Losing a year when they are in their prime really blows. We had a team that 99% of nfl players wanted to be on. I really think that is going to change if we dont turn it around. Then we are going back to being a mediocre team when we were on pace to become a dynasty.

You can blame Goodell for that. He broke up this team. "The Dynasty that Goodell killed."

GoofySaint · 09-17-2012, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

It is really starting to show that we are playing with the 3rd string coach now. We make 0 adjustments at any point in the game. Why arent we using the TE to at least chip the defensive ends to slow them down? Payton did this all the time. I dont understand how our coaches dont know to make simple adjustments. Was payton the only one with any sense??? Its such a bad feeling watching this team play right now. Brees will be injured this year...no doubt. I dont think he has ever gotten his @$$ kicked this bad in his career. Kromer has sealed his fate as a lifetime position coach. Whats ironic is that his unit it one of the worst on the team. Whats sad is we are losing valuable years with our best players. Losing a year when they are in their prime really blows. We had a team that 99% of nfl players wanted to be on. I really think that is going to change if we dont turn it around. Then we are going back to being a mediocre team when we were on pace to become a dynasty.

For a dynasty, we would need 2 more rings before 2018.

This is quite possible in the drew Brees era.

Drew Brees still has 3-4 years left in his prime.

When we get SP back next year, we should be HUGE favorites to win it.

Plus I'm still not giving my judgement until we get Vitt back.

I realize Kromer sucks.

But what's interesting is our best days with the defense back in the preseason during the cardinals and pats game? Guess who was coaching? Vitt. Then as soon as we get kromer the defense stinks it up in the texans game and needs the O to carry them.

The point is this defense won't suck when Vitt comes back.

09-17-2012, 02:52 PM	#1
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	Coaching is garbage It is really starting to show that we are playing with the 3rd string coach now. We make 0 adjustments at any point in the game. Why arent we using the TE to at least chip the defensive ends to slow them down? Payton did this all the time. I dont understand how our coaches dont know to make simple adjustments. Was payton the only one with any sense??? Its such a bad feeling watching this team play right now. Brees will be injured this year...no doubt. I dont think he has ever gotten his @$$ kicked this bad in his career. Kromer has sealed his fate as a lifetime position coach. Whats ironic is that his unit it one of the worst on the team. Whats sad is we are losing valuable years with our best players. Losing a year when they are in their prime really blows. We had a team that 99% of nfl players wanted to be on. I really think that is going to change if we dont turn it around. Then we are going back to being a mediocre team when we were on pace to become a dynasty.

09-17-2012, 03:01 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,693	Re: Coaching is garbage I want a defense that can be dominant and not just for one year I'm still going to watch every game, every week It may sound bad, but instead of getting frustrated like I normally would I've accepted a couple of things; If we struggle this year and I really hope we don't, we get a good pick in the draft I really hope our defense scheme kicks in and we go on a tear, but after getting very frustrated in years past I've kinda thought there's not much we can do and it's healthy to vent your anger on here where people will listen I'm in no way hoping we struggle and I hope we go on a win streak like last year, try to think positives, we have something to build upon and our defense can't get any worse If defense doesnt work, get rid of spags and get someone that can turn our defense into something that remotely challenges opponents SapperSaint, CharityMike, SloMotion and 1 others like this.
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09-17-2012, 03:07 PM	#3
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Coaching is garbage Originally Posted by dizzle88 I want a defense that can be dominant and not just for one year I'm still going to watch every game, every week It may sound bad, but instead of getting frustrated like I normally would I've accepted a couple of things; If we struggle this year and I really hope we don't, we get a good pick in the draft I really hope our defense scheme kicks in and we go on a tear, but after getting very frustrated in years past I've kinda thought there's not much we can do and it's healthy to vent your anger on here where people will listen I'm in no way hoping we struggle and I hope we go on a win streak like last year, try to think positives, we have something to build upon and our defense can't get any worse If defense doesnt work, get rid of spags and get someone that can turn our defense into something that remotely challenges opponents Well said!

09-17-2012, 03:08 PM	#4
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Coaching is garbage I'm not ready to throw spags under just yet. We just do not have play makers. It is what it is. The New Orleans Saints have given up 922 total yards in the first two games. I pulled this up only because I thought it's kind of funny New Orleans Saints preaching patience after 0-2 start \| wwltv.com New Orleans They’ve given up 372 yards on the ground and allowed Cam Newton and Robert Griffin III to complete 71.7 percent of their passes. And Carolina and Washington have recorded 14 plays of 20-plus yards.But New Orleans linebacker Scott Shanle has one simple request. “All I can ask for is to be a little more patient,” Shanle said. “Give us a few more games to show you who we truly are and not overreact after two games and tell us who you think we are.” Shanle asking for us to be patient. I got 14 more weeks to be Scott
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09-17-2012, 03:11 PM	#5
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Coaching is garbage Really Scott...more time..I think time has passed you by dude. It don't matter how long we wait, you still gonna suck Ashley likes this.

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09-17-2012, 03:23 PM	#6
4thqtrsaint 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 103	Re: Coaching is garbage Coaching may well be garbage. But the one point people overlook is execution. If the players execute 50% more and we're 1-1 or 2-0 and nobody would even mention the coaching. Dropped passes, throwing easy INTs, false start penalties, etc. those things are on the players, not the playcalling. I also have a hard time digesting that because Payton isn't here, we're sloppy. Rooks, maybe. Veterans? I doubt it. Most of our guys have been here before. Now, I'm not saying we don't miss Payton. But I'm saying there's blame from top to bottom that goes beyond coaching. And I wouldn't get too excited about a high draft pick. If I remember right, we lost one this coming year too, thanks to our bud, Roger.
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09-17-2012, 03:25 PM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,060	Re: Coaching is garbage If 15 more passes were caught week 1. No one would be garbage.

09-17-2012, 03:27 PM	#8
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Coaching is garbage Originally Posted by 4thqtrsaint And I wouldn't get too excited about a high draft pick. If I remember right, we lost one this coming year too, thanks to our bud, Roger. We lost the 2nd round pick, so a high pick would help in the first round

09-17-2012, 04:54 PM	#9
TheEnigma 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 711	Re: Coaching is garbage Originally Posted by Speedy Ron It is really starting to show that we are playing with the 3rd string coach now. We make 0 adjustments at any point in the game. Why arent we using the TE to at least chip the defensive ends to slow them down? Payton did this all the time. I dont understand how our coaches dont know to make simple adjustments. Was payton the only one with any sense??? Its such a bad feeling watching this team play right now. Brees will be injured this year...no doubt. I dont think he has ever gotten his @$$ kicked this bad in his career. Kromer has sealed his fate as a lifetime position coach. Whats ironic is that his unit it one of the worst on the team. Whats sad is we are losing valuable years with our best players. Losing a year when they are in their prime really blows. We had a team that 99% of nfl players wanted to be on. I really think that is going to change if we dont turn it around. Then we are going back to being a mediocre team when we were on pace to become a dynasty. You can blame Goodell for that. He broke up this team. "The Dynasty that Goodell killed."
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09-17-2012, 05:17 PM	#10
GoofySaint 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Philipsburg, PA Posts: 161	Re: Coaching is garbage Originally Posted by Speedy Ron It is really starting to show that we are playing with the 3rd string coach now. We make 0 adjustments at any point in the game. Why arent we using the TE to at least chip the defensive ends to slow them down? Payton did this all the time. I dont understand how our coaches dont know to make simple adjustments. Was payton the only one with any sense??? Its such a bad feeling watching this team play right now. Brees will be injured this year...no doubt. I dont think he has ever gotten his @$$ kicked this bad in his career. Kromer has sealed his fate as a lifetime position coach. Whats ironic is that his unit it one of the worst on the team. Whats sad is we are losing valuable years with our best players. Losing a year when they are in their prime really blows. We had a team that 99% of nfl players wanted to be on. I really think that is going to change if we dont turn it around. Then we are going back to being a mediocre team when we were on pace to become a dynasty. For a dynasty, we would need 2 more rings before 2018. This is quite possible in the drew Brees era. Drew Brees still has 3-4 years left in his prime. When we get SP back next year, we should be HUGE favorites to win it. Plus I'm still not giving my judgement until we get Vitt back. I realize Kromer sucks. But what's interesting is our best days with the defense back in the preseason during the cardinals and pats game? Guess who was coaching? Vitt. Then as soon as we get kromer the defense stinks it up in the texans game and needs the O to carry them. The point is this defense won't suck when Vitt comes back. SaintsBro likes this.

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