49ers vs. the Saints

AllSaints · 09-18-2012, 05:25 PM

Yep d-line is out biggest need of something... We cant get to the QB when we blitz 7 people ... and with 4 d-lineman we give the qb all the time n the world.... ugh why cant we find the star people n D like we can our offense...

saintfan · 09-18-2012, 05:26 PM

They have one of the older rosters - so hopefully they'll break down somewhere along the way.

Ashley · 09-18-2012, 08:37 PM

Damn I didn't realize that they had that many #1's.

exiled · 09-18-2012, 10:07 PM

no an argument NOLA can really make well - there was a time when the only time we got to shout "We're number one!" was on draft day.

I do like the parity in the NFL - even going into week 3 - sitting at 0-2 1/8 of the season gone - last place in the conference - we still have reason to believe.

and I do.

The Dude · 09-18-2012, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by exiled

no an argument NOLA can really make well - there was a time when the only time we got to shout "We're number one!" was on draft day.

I do like the parity in the NFL - even going into week 3 - sitting at 0-2 1/8 of the season gone - last place in the conference - we still have reason to believe.

and I do.

The Dude · 09-18-2012, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by frankeefrank

I live in the Bay Area now and it makes me sick that the 4-and-9ers are so relevant again.
But as I watched the game Sunday night, I realized why.

It's no wonder the 49ers are good this year

Of their starting 11 on offense, 7 are first round picks.
Michael Crabtree – 1st round, 10th overall
Joe Staley – 1st Round, 28th overall
Mike Iupati – 1st round, 17th overall
Jonathan Goodwin – 5th round
Alex Boone – undrafted
Anthony Davis – 1st round, 11th overall
Vernon Davis – 1st round, 6th overall
Randy Moss – 1st round, 21st overall
Bruce Miller – 7th round
Frank gore – 3rd round
Alex Smith – 1st round, 1st overall

Last year's New Orleans Saints record setting offense featured one first rounder, Mark Ingram, and he wasn't even a starter.
This year we finally have a first rounder starting... Ben Grubbs (he was a free agent)

With 5 more first rounders on defense..
It's no wonder the niners are finally good. 12 of their 22 starters are "first round talent." They should be good on accident.

Thats what happens when you suck for a long time and draft wisely.

Haps Biggest Fan · 09-19-2012, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Thats what happens when you suck for a long time and draft wisely.

Yes, the key is that you MUST draft wisely.

I sometimes suspect that the Saints have not drafted very wisely, especially on Defense.

bobdog86 · 09-18-2012, 10:31 PM

YOU WIN BY controlling the line of scrimmage, period...Football 101, Both offensively and defensively. Shore up both of those, primarily the D line (first) and progress from there.

TheOak · 09-19-2012, 06:17 AM

I dont think first rounders have a whole lot to do with it.

The Pats do just as well with out them

GoofySaint · 09-19-2012, 04:02 PM

The 49ers won't be around for a long.

Defensive teams in this era don't last that long unless they update or at least have SOME offense.

The Ravens and Steelers have always done good because they have an offense to work with that and they got that early. The 9ers JUST GOT THAT. They've already wasted so much time.

The steelers and Ravens are STILL good because they continue to update their teams.

Ray Lewis and Ed Reed getting old? Here's Terrel Suggs and Haloti Ngata.

Troy Polamalu and Jame Harrison getting old? Here's Lamarr Woodley and Ryan Clark.

The 49ers got lucky because none of them got injured last season. That most likely won't happen again and unlike the steelers and ravens, the 9ers have no depth and I don't think they can update since it took them this long just to update their head coach.

09-18-2012, 05:26 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 49ers vs. the Saints They have one of the older rosters - so hopefully they'll break down somewhere along the way.

09-18-2012, 08:37 PM	#3
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: 49ers vs. the Saints Damn I didn't realize that they had that many #1's.

09-18-2012, 10:07 PM	#4
exiled Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: on the road - now based in Austin, TX Posts: 486	Re: 49ers vs. the Saints no an argument NOLA can really make well - there was a time when the only time we got to shout "We're number one!" was on draft day. I do like the parity in the NFL - even going into week 3 - sitting at 0-2 1/8 of the season gone - last place in the conference - we still have reason to believe. and I do.

09-18-2012, 10:25 PM	#5
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	Re: 49ers vs. the Saints Originally Posted by exiled no an argument NOLA can really make well - there was a time when the only time we got to shout "We're number one!" was on draft day. I do like the parity in the NFL - even going into week 3 - sitting at 0-2 1/8 of the season gone - last place in the conference - we still have reason to believe. and I do.
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09-18-2012, 10:22 PM	#6
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	Re: 49ers vs. the Saints Originally Posted by frankeefrank I live in the Bay Area now and it makes me sick that the 4-and-9ers are so relevant again. But as I watched the game Sunday night, I realized why. It's no wonder the 49ers are good this year Of their starting 11 on offense, 7 are first round picks. Michael Crabtree – 1st round, 10th overall Joe Staley – 1st Round, 28th overall Mike Iupati – 1st round, 17th overall Jonathan Goodwin – 5th round Alex Boone – undrafted Anthony Davis – 1st round, 11th overall Vernon Davis – 1st round, 6th overall Randy Moss – 1st round, 21st overall Bruce Miller – 7th round Frank gore – 3rd round Alex Smith – 1st round, 1st overall Last year's New Orleans Saints record setting offense featured one first rounder, Mark Ingram, and he wasn't even a starter. This year we finally have a first rounder starting... Ben Grubbs (he was a free agent) With 5 more first rounders on defense.. It's no wonder the niners are finally good. 12 of their 22 starters are "first round talent." They should be good on accident. Thats what happens when you suck for a long time and draft wisely.
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09-18-2012, 05:25 PM	#1
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Re: 49ers vs. the Saints Yep d-line is out biggest need of something... We cant get to the QB when we blitz 7 people ... and with 4 d-lineman we give the qb all the time n the world.... ugh why cant we find the star people n D like we can our offense...

09-19-2012, 08:40 PM	#7
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	Re: 49ers vs. the Saints Originally Posted by The Dude Thats what happens when you suck for a long time and draft wisely. Yes, the key is that you MUST draft wisely. I sometimes suspect that the Saints have not drafted very wisely, especially on Defense.

09-18-2012, 10:31 PM	#8
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,487	Re: 49ers vs. the Saints YOU WIN BY controlling the line of scrimmage, period...Football 101, Both offensively and defensively. Shore up both of those, primarily the D line (first) and progress from there. Ashley and Joker like this.

09-19-2012, 06:17 AM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: 49ers vs. the Saints I dont think first rounders have a whole lot to do with it. The Pats do just as well with out them

09-19-2012, 04:02 PM	#10
GoofySaint 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Philipsburg, PA Posts: 161	Re: 49ers vs. the Saints The 49ers won't be around for a long. Defensive teams in this era don't last that long unless they update or at least have SOME offense. The Ravens and Steelers have always done good because they have an offense to work with that and they got that early. The 9ers JUST GOT THAT. They've already wasted so much time. The steelers and Ravens are STILL good because they continue to update their teams. Ray Lewis and Ed Reed getting old? Here's Terrel Suggs and Haloti Ngata. Troy Polamalu and Jame Harrison getting old? Here's Lamarr Woodley and Ryan Clark. The 49ers got lucky because none of them got injured last season. That most likely won't happen again and unlike the steelers and ravens, the 9ers have no depth and I don't think they can update since it took them this long just to update their head coach.