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From what we saw in the Preseason he looked like the best DT we had on the team. Now during the regular season I have only see him take 1 snap (and he made the tackle on the play). What I really don't understand is Tom Johnson seems to be getting more playing time (passing situations Bunckley comes out, Johnson goes in).

Why, oh, why is Johnson getting playing time over Hicks. Vet or not Johnson has never done anything to impress and I think we can all agree that Hicks is the future at DT, but he needs playing time to develop.

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Good question. I think the answer is experience. Johnson has it Hicks does not. Hicks has more potential but right now, Spags feels Hicks is just not ready. That will likely change however if we keep giving up over 30pts a game. If that continues look to see more of Hicks because it won't matter at that point.

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Johnson has flashed some ability. Both he and Hicks have graded out in the positive when it comes to rushing the passer. We should see more of both... especially if Ellis continues to show he's dead weight.

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I wouldn't mind seeing him get more play time.

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Dead weight indeed. I swear he has to have headphones playing under his helmet so he can move it like Bernie on the field.

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We should see both on the field starting the game could care less what Spuds thinks. The only way Ellis will be a dominating DT is if someone taped a doughnut or Twinkie to the QB's helmet, really don't think that will happen so he should come in to relieve on occasion and cut at year end.

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Seriously man the nfl is a business now sure teams still want to "win" but the only reason why smith and Ellis still start is because they make the bigger pay check. Why would a business owner bench the guy who he's paying the most? For instance if Brees went out and threw a pick every play every down every remaining game. Do u think we would see chase Daniel? I don't cause we're paying him $40,000,000 dollars this season. Just wouldn't be a "smart business move" the owners don't care about the fans and how we feel. They wanna play and work the players they are playing plain and simple. It's all business now. It's a shame but it is what it is. Of it were me I'd start gallett Bunkley hicks Tez Wilson. Cassillas Lofton Hawthorne. Greer and Robinson are solid because those front four would generate pressure. And I'd take Jenkins and Abdul-quddos

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I think we'd all agree our coaches know who our best players are and they're gonna play who they think gives usd the best chance to win.

But I'd damn sure love to know why they think a certain few players give us that better chance.

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Seriously man, what happens to your business when sales are down because of the product you're putting out. Let me tell you if you don't know, you go bankrupt. 1 player that's under achieving and hurting team since he was drafted is no reason to keep him on the field regardless of what you're paying him. Sometimes it's better to cut your losses to make more in the long run.
Please don't compare Drew's situation to that of someone like Sedric ( Twinkie) Ellis.

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Me Too!!!!!!
A player like Sedric Ellis

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Seriously man, what happens to your business when sales are down because of the product you're putting out. Let me tell you if you don't know, you go bankrupt. 1 player that's under achieving and hurting team since he was drafted is no reason to keep him on the field regardless of what you're paying him. Sometimes it's better to cut your losses to make more in the long run.
Please don't compare Drew's situation to that of someone like Sedric ( Twinkie) Ellis.

I wasn't comparing drews situation. I was just saying for instance. And no were not gonna go bankrupt because we are still gonna pay to at least see the offense play in hopes they can win every shootout we are gonna get in this season. I'm telling u they will never start Tez over smith because smith is making the bigger pay check. Neither will we see hicks start over Ellis. Because the D line won't preform but it's ok we won't lose any money because fans will still come out to watch the offense.

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I wasn't comparing drews situation. I was just saying for instance. And no were not gonna go bankrupt because we are still gonna pay to at least see the offense play in hopes they can win every shootout we are gonna get in this season. I'm telling u they will never start Tez over smith because smith is making the bigger pay check. Neither will we see hicks start over Ellis. Because the D line won't preform but it's ok we won't lose any money because fans will still come out to watch the offense.[/QUOTE]

I never said anything about smith even though he is getting a little long in the tooth, my comments were directed to 1 individual (Twinkie). don't be surprised if Hicks doesn't get the opportunity to start over Twinkie. This guy does absolutely nothing but collect a paycheck, he's easily blocked by anyone on opposing offenses as well as cant tackle unless he has help from another teammate. how long can this go on, it wouldn't be like he would be the only player in the NFL making a big salary to get benched for a better less payed player.

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Ill disagree. Exhibit A: see Shanle.

As stated before he grades out as the worst starting OLB in the league for 4 years but Vitt gives the guy praise in interviews. Hindsight is always 20/20 but after 4 years of hindsight proving them wrong, maybe they would have some foresight to see Shanle shouldn't start.

We need to take the rose colored glasses off and realize this team was great because of Payton. He carried this awful D every year and won the SB.

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Seriously man, what happens to your business when sales are down because of the product you're putting out. Let me tell you if you don't know, you go bankrupt. 1 player that's under achieving and hurting team since he was drafted is no reason to keep him on the field regardless of what you're paying him. Sometimes it's better to cut your losses to make more in the long run.
Please don't compare Drew's situation to that of someone like Sedric ( Twinkie) Ellis.

I wasn't comparing Bree's is anything I was using that as an illustration. And no it don't matter how pathetic and how underachieving the defense plays Tez will NEVER start over Smith nor hicks over Ellis ONLY because thu draw the bigger check. And we will not go bankrupt because the FO knows that we the fans will still show up to the games if nothing else watch the offense with every hope of us winning every shootout we get into this season. I'm telling u that's why our better 2nd string will never start over the underachieving pathetic first string. The nfl is a business now they don't care about playing the best player available just the highest played player. It's obvious and it's common since.

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Sorry for the bad typing I'm using my iPhone. Lowland I cant type on this darn thing.

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See there?? I meant "lol and" not freaking "lowland" wtf is that????

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wasn't comparing Bree's is anything I was using that as an illustration. And no it don't matter how pathetic and how underachieving the defense plays Tez will NEVER start over Smith nor hicks over Ellis ONLY because thu draw the bigger check. And we will not go bankrupt because the FO knows that we the fans will still show up to the games if nothing else watch the offense with every hope of us winning every shootout we get into this season. I'm telling u that's why our better 2nd string will never start over the underachieving pathetic first string. The nfl is a business now they don't care about playing the best player available just the highest played player. It's obvious and it's common since.[/QUOTE]

Use some common sense, at some point the best players play regardless of money. Example: How much money was vince Young paid, guess what he was benched for a player making less and i can continue on and on. lets just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

Have a nice evening !!!!!!

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I wish we had a modern day version of the Dome Patrol, then discussions about the defense would be how dominant they are.

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Hicks didn't play in the first game and he was on the field for plenty of snaps last week. Looking good in the preseason doesn't mean jack... Hicks just needs to step his game up now that it matters.

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hicks can only get better as time goes on, Twinkie will continue to be what he is over paid NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I think we're going to see a much more competent defense this Sunday against the Chiefs... Seeing as how we're not playing against a young mobile QB and all. I expect everyone on our D-Line to look good this week!

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I hope you're right, but considering were playing another 0-2 team I hope it's our defense that plays well as opposed to their offense stinking up the joint.

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I'll settle for either scenario this weekend my good man, as long as we get that first win!

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Yea you're right, I cant take another week of being depressed

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One player the Saints will be watching closely in the coming weeks is rookie DT Akiem Hicks. The third-round pick made his debut in Week Two after he didn't dress in the season opener. He played 20 snaps (a little less than a third of the total defensive snaps) and recorded a QB hit in New Orleans’ loss to the Panthers.

We hear the coaching staff was impressed with the flashes he showed.
“Akiem Hicks is a powerful, young player,” interim head coach Aaron Kromer said. “Any young player in the National Football League is raw, and his techniques aren’t perfect, but that guy has the power and ability to play right now.”

The Saints are desperate for a spark on a defense that struggled mightily against QBs Robert Griffin III and Cam Newton in the first two weeks of the season. If he continues to flash, we're told increased playing time for Hicks will likely come at the expense of starting DT Sedrick Ellis, who has been credited with only four QB hits and a half sack in his last 22 games, including the playoffs, dating back to Week 16 of the 2010 season.

Saints look to rookie DT Hicks for spark - Yahoo! Sports

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Some players just shine in actual games. That's the type of player I feel Akiem Hicks is. I mean sh*t, our defense couldn't get any worse so why not let him have his due?

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OK, I'm fired up about him now. Bunkley/Hicks, with Ellis coming off the bench for Bunkley on 3rd and longs.

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GOOD! I would rather see Ellis' wasting space on the bench than on the field! Let the kid play!

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Hicks wasn't suited game 1, but I thought he made at least one nice play against the panthers

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I mentioned in the offseason that by week 8, hicks would have become the starter taking over from Ellis, I'm still sticking by the comment Aswell

He's a raw player, but his aggressiveness is what our team is mission at other positions

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I would get him on the field as soon as possible, Ellis has to go. 22 games and a 1/2 sack is not good, I've wanted Ellis gone for quite some time, now this is the perfect oppertunity. If Hicks gets rollin' it would get better on the D line, and if Smith don't perform after that replace him with fresh meat too. Jenkins isn't far behind them!!

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we definitley need a younger and more hungry D line, after this offseason i expect;

Ellis to go
Smith to go

If we have a D line of Martez, Galette, Hopefully romeus, bunkley, hicks and cam jordan we will be alot better off.

Ellis was a wasted pick, hasn't done anything in 5 years, smith was a good pick but the dude is done now.

We need to draft a proper safety and not a converted CB

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I'm feeling it too brother.:bng:

I have a list of players I have no clue on.