(OFFICIAL VENTING THREAD) Smoke 'em if you got 'em

[saintsfan403]

OK-'What does drew brees, Pete Carmichael and spags have in common

They Should all get fired!'
1-you are an idiot, an absolute idiot.
2-there is problems all over this team, and the biggest problem is going to be finger pointing right now.
The defence showed a huge improvement today, they still gave up big plays too many times, but I was glad to see that they could get the punt team out on to the field. The offence has no balance in their play calling, I don't know if Carmichael has gone made with power, but they need to stop throwing on every god damn down. Kromer looks absolutely lost, and is doing zero good while he's playing head coach, he needs to get back to dealing with the o-line and work on pass pro. our offence needs to start pounding the ball too. Sproles comes out and rips a 40+ yard run, gets some tempo and we score on the opening drive, but then we lay off the run and try and throw every goddamn down?? we have 3 unique backs that all compliment our offence beautifully. get them in the ****ing game. when we are up 24-6, start controlling the tempo and run down the clock. also, the officiating (if you can call it that) was just beyond disgusting. I can't believe some of those calls (face palm) but, in my opinion, this all boils down to not having SP on the sidelines. with out Sean to dictate what the team is doing they've just fallen apart. Vitt will be an improvement, but that's he's far from the answer. It's still amazing to think what Goodell did to us, and that he just kind of did it with out giving two ****s about what he was doing. He scapegoated the Saints to try show the NFLPA that he cares about player health to try and cover up his shotty record with player safety (if he knew about gregg williams' bounty programs all along, why did he act now? is it just a coincidence that he came forward with this bounty gate joke when he was under the most pressure?) and to deflect the attention off him for being a ****ty commissioner.
It sucks to admit, but that cock sucker Goodell got us good (and the rest of the NFL with these replacement refs). This season can't go by fast enough. hopefully we can get a high draft pick and maybe by the end of the season Spags will have worked his magic like he did with the giants and next year we can go lights out in 2013.
Still gonna remain optimistic about this season, but not holding my breath for anything.

[burningmetal]

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

OK-'What does drew brees, Pete Carmichael and spags have in common

They Should all get fired!'
1-you are an idiot, an absolute idiot.
2-there is problems all over this team, and the biggest problem is going to be finger pointing right now.
The defence showed a huge improvement today, they still gave up big plays too many times, but I was glad to see that they could get the punt team out on to the field. The offence has no balance in their play calling, I don't know if Carmichael has gone made with power, but they need to stop throwing on every god damn down. Kromer looks absolutely lost, and is doing zero good while he's playing head coach, he needs to get back to dealing with the o-line and work on pass pro. our offence needs to start pounding the ball too. Sproles comes out and rips a 40+ yard run, gets some tempo and we score on the opening drive, but then we lay off the run and try and throw every goddamn down?? we have 3 unique backs that all compliment our offence beautifully. get them in the ****ing game. when we are up 24-6, start controlling the tempo and run down the clock. also, the officiating (if you can call it that) was just beyond disgusting. I can't believe some of those calls (face palm) but, in my opinion, this all boils down to not having SP on the sidelines. with out Sean to dictate what the team is doing they've just fallen apart. Vitt will be an improvement, but that's he's far from the answer. It's still amazing to think what Goodell did to us, and that he just kind of did it with out giving two ****s about what he was doing. He scapegoated the Saints to try show the NFLPA that he cares about player health to try and cover up his shotty record with player safety (if he knew about gregg williams' bounty programs all along, why did he act now? is it just a coincidence that he came forward with this bounty gate joke when he was under the most pressure?) and to deflect the attention off him for being a ****ty commissioner.
It sucks to admit, but that cock sucker Goodell got us good (and the rest of the NFL with these replacement refs). This season can't go by fast enough. hopefully we can get a high draft pick and maybe by the end of the season Spags will have worked his magic like he did with the giants and next year we can go lights out in 2013.
Still gonna remain optimistic about this season, but not holding my breath for anything.

Who in here has said to "fire" Drew? Nobody. c'mon, we're 0-3, if you can't see that everyone is sucking, than I don't know what it's gonna take. Spags is still new here, so I won't call for his firing, but these other guys are embarrassing themselves along with the players. We have a better roster than we had last year, WITH Sean Payton, yet we've matched last season's loss total in the first 3 games. You don't see a coaching problem there?

[Rugby Saint II]

Where to start? Where to start??? Drew is being hammered on every down. No one is keeping any sort of unity in the trenches.
Defense needs to go back and watch this in HD for a couple of days like the scene from a clock work orange.

[neugey]

Watched the second half in its entirety ... these replacement refs have to go, they are worse than the NBA replacement refs!

I don't blame them for the loss entirely because our offense, defense, special teams and the Chiefs play did a lot to control the outcome, but my God, all the missed calls and unnecessary reviews ... that game was at least 50 minutes longer than it should have been solely due to the bad officiating. What a disgrace! I think the replacement refs are in a conspiracy to get the TV networks and the NFL more revenue. I'm not kidding!!!

[TheOak]

Just wow. I don't mind being associated with a team that loses, they all do from time to time.

It's when the fans show their azzes like some of these posts that I take pause.

Really people. Lose with class and win with humility.

[burningmetal]

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Just wow. I don't mind being associated with a team that loses, they all do from time to time.

It's when the fans show their azzes like some of these posts that I take pause.

Really people. Lose with class and win with humility.

We don't make millions of dollars to watch these guys play. You're right that losses happen sometimes. Quitting is something no fan should see from their team. Name one sign of giving a damn that you see from this team right now? 3 games like this in a row. Don't tell me it's one game anymore.

[TheOak]

Originally Posted by burningmetal

We don't make millions of dollars to watch these guys play. You're right that losses happen sometimes. Quitting is something no fan should see from their team. Name one sign of giving a damn that you see from this team right now? 3 games like this in a row. Don't tell me it's one game anymore.

They did not "quit". It is frustration... Our 2012 players, like some of the fans we have garnered since 2009 do not remember the feeling of frustration of nothing working.

Try and look at it from a players perspective. They have gone from being champions and being known as one of the most prolific offenses in NFL history to not being able to put more than 300 yards. What did the players do to cause that? Absolutely nothing. As far as the defense, they have not been very strong consistently for a very long time, one of the commentators in the game said something that is very true... In the last 4-5 years all of the emphasis has been put on the offense to outscore and make up for our lack of defense, now that the offense is out of sync the spot light is on the defense and they are not used to that.

Frustration and confusion takes its toll mentally and physically, I did not see anyone quit, what they tried and did just didn't work.

[burningmetal]

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

They did not "quit". It is frustration... Our 2012 players, like some of the fans we have garnered since 2009 do not remember the feeling of frustration of nothing working.

Try and look at it from a players perspective. They have gone from being champions and being known as one of the most prolific offenses in NFL history to not being able to put more than 300 yards. What did the players do to cause that? Absolutely nothing. As far as the defense, they have not been very strong consistently for a very long time, one of the commentators in the game said something that is very true... In the last 4-5 years all of the emphasis has been put on the offense to outscore and make up for our lack of defense, now that the offense is out of sync the spot light is on the defense and they are not used to that.

Frustration and confusion takes its toll mentally and physically, I did not see anyone quit, what they tried and did just didn't work.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy any of that. The players have nothing to do with the fact that they can't play well anymore? Then who did cause it? I'm sick of hearing the excuses from everyone. It seems almost like people worship this team instead of root for them. I love the Saints, and by the way, I've been a fan for as long as my memory goes back, but I'm not going to accept a lack of effort. In your opinion, it is not a lack of effort, but in my opinion, consistent lack of execution and lack of effort go hand in hand.

I see poor body language, dropped passes, missed tackles, missed assignments, and numerous penalties. The officiating was horrible yesterday, but regardless of how those calls may effect the outcome they have nothing to do with the horrible play by the Saints. To say that they are frustrated by not being able to put up 300 yards is the worst excuse I've heard yet. If they would pull their collective heads out of their butts and play with some enthusiasm and concentration they would not be so frustrated by game's end.

And lastly, regarding the defense, I have been complaining about them for years, so it's not as if I'm being inconsistent in my criticism of their play. You think I, or anyone for that matter, haven't noticed how bad that unit has been for so long? I don't much care if the defense isn't used to the spotlight... They are supposed to be professionals, so they had better get used to it, don't you think?

[Barry from MS]

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Just wow. I don't mind being associated with a team that loses, they all do from time to time.

It's when the fans show their azzes like some of these posts that I take pause.

Really people. Lose with class and win with humility.

THANK YOU. It had to be said. We lose probably the most shrewd and organized head coach in the NFL, PLUS the defense is learning a new defensive scheme. What'd y'all expect?

Just support them through this tough time like we did when they rattled off those double digit win streaks (though some of us still complained during THAT).

As far as this Saints team goes, there have been much, much worse ones not so long ago. Ain't no point getting mad considering the circumstances. Settle in and embrace the suck. If or when we turn this thing around, the team can legitimately say they have the best fans in the world, through good AND bad. Like a marriage, it's through sickness and in health.

Good news is that we ain't gotta worry about them dang annoying bangwagon folks for a while since we're sitting at 0-3.

[Jamessr]

I don't think it's because the team doesn't give a damn... I think all 53 people and the coaches care. For some reason they just can't get it together. I'm not about to question the teams intergrity. EVER