Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell

The Dude · 09-23-2012, 10:00 PM

Yea they suck, but the refs have not changed the outcome of any of our games. Instead of pointing the finger at the refs we need to hold the team accountable. With the way we are playing we wouldn't have won even if we had the calls go our way. No one is to blame but the coaching staff and the players.

B005TED · 09-23-2012, 10:06 PM

I blame Spaggs, not 100% but he gets the majority of it.

/end thread.

The Dude · 09-23-2012, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by B005TED

I blame Spaggs, not 100% but he gets the majority of it.

/end thread.

You cannot blame Spags for what is happening. He walked into a team on the cusp of shambles. Suspensions, no head coach, no interim head coach, personnel problems to name a few. You cannot hold any coach fully accountable for walking into this environment and doing poorly. Not a DC in the world would do any better.

WhoDat!656 · 09-23-2012, 10:10 PM

The refs blew the TD by PT.

The refs missed a holding call on thelong TD run

The refs missed missed several push-offs by KC wrs.

And don't get me started on what Goodell has done.

Bottom line: Our defense had cost us 3 staright games.

Vrillon82 · 09-24-2012, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

The refs blew the TD by PT.

The refs missed a holding call on thelong TD run

The refs missed missed several push-offs by KC wrs.

And don't get me started on what Goodell has done.

Bottom line: Our defense had cost us 3 staright games.

They blew the Lance Moore TD to, the Pylon is part of the field of play, since his foot touched it, his other foot was in bounds, its a completed catch if not a TD.

Instead of 24 pts, we should of had 38 pts in that game.

Danno · 09-24-2012, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

They blew the Lance Moore TD to, the Pylon is part of the field of play, since his foot touched it, his other foot was in bounds, its a completed catch if not a TD.

Instead of 24 pts, we should of had 38 pts in that game.

The Lance Moore call was correct. He DID NOT come down with both feet inbounds. Its the only one they got right.

Vrillon82 · 09-24-2012, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

The Lance Moore call was correct. He DID NOT come down with both feet inbounds. Its the only one they got right.

He didnt need to.

I will go read the rule book or get clarification.

But since his foot touched the Pylon first before hitting the ground, that is a completed catch or TD. Touching the Pylon is the same as getting your foot in bounds, in the case of Moore, 1 foot hit Pylon first then the ground, his other foot was in bounds.

Danno · 09-24-2012, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

He didnt need to.

I will go read the rule book or get clarification.

But since his foot touched the Pylon first before hitting the ground, that is a completed catch or TD. Touching the Pylon is the same as getting your foot in bounds, in the case of Moore, 1 foot hit Pylon first then the ground, his other foot was in bounds.

The pylon only designates where the plane of the goal line extends. It has nothing to do with getting a foot down for a completion.

TheOak · 09-24-2012, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

He didnt need to.

I will go read the rule book or get clarification.

But since his foot touched the Pylon first before hitting the ground, that is a completed catch or TD. Touching the Pylon is the same as getting your foot in bounds, in the case of Moore, 1 foot hit Pylon first then the ground, his other foot was in bounds.

If he had hit the pylon with the ball THEN it would be a TD is the way I interpret the rule.

Keep in mind, a body part does not need to cross the plane.. the ball does.

neugey · 09-23-2012, 10:10 PM

And don't forget Carmichael. Our offensive play calling has been pretty poopy too.

09-23-2012, 10:00 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Yea they suck, but the refs have not changed the outcome of any of our games. Instead of pointing the finger at the refs we need to hold the team accountable. With the way we are playing we wouldn't have won even if we had the calls go our way. No one is to blame but the coaching staff and the players. thebdj, Rell&Gold and atltillidie like this.
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B005TED Who Dat!!??!! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: AThelL Posts: 177	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell I blame Spaggs, not 100% but he gets the majority of it. /end thread.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Originally Posted by B005TED I blame Spaggs, not 100% but he gets the majority of it. /end thread. You cannot blame Spags for what is happening. He walked into a team on the cusp of shambles. Suspensions, no head coach, no interim head coach, personnel problems to name a few. You cannot hold any coach fully accountable for walking into this environment and doing poorly. Not a DC in the world would do any better. jlouhill, thebdj, Rell&Gold and 1 others like this.
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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,085	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell The refs blew the TD by PT. The refs missed a holding call on thelong TD run The refs missed missed several push-offs by KC wrs. And don't get me started on what Goodell has done. Bottom line: Our defense had cost us 3 staright games.

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Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 The refs blew the TD by PT. The refs missed a holding call on thelong TD run The refs missed missed several push-offs by KC wrs. And don't get me started on what Goodell has done. Bottom line: Our defense had cost us 3 staright games. They blew the Lance Moore TD to, the Pylon is part of the field of play, since his foot touched it, his other foot was in bounds, its a completed catch if not a TD. Instead of 24 pts, we should of had 38 pts in that game.
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09-24-2012, 01:39 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Originally Posted by Vrillon82 They blew the Lance Moore TD to, the Pylon is part of the field of play, since his foot touched it, his other foot was in bounds, its a completed catch if not a TD. Instead of 24 pts, we should of had 38 pts in that game. The Lance Moore call was correct. He DID NOT come down with both feet inbounds. Its the only one they got right. papz likes this.

09-24-2012, 01:51 PM	#7
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Originally Posted by Danno The Lance Moore call was correct. He DID NOT come down with both feet inbounds. Its the only one they got right. He didnt need to. I will go read the rule book or get clarification. But since his foot touched the Pylon first before hitting the ground, that is a completed catch or TD. Touching the Pylon is the same as getting your foot in bounds, in the case of Moore, 1 foot hit Pylon first then the ground, his other foot was in bounds.
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09-24-2012, 01:59 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Originally Posted by Vrillon82 He didnt need to. I will go read the rule book or get clarification. But since his foot touched the Pylon first before hitting the ground, that is a completed catch or TD. Touching the Pylon is the same as getting your foot in bounds, in the case of Moore, 1 foot hit Pylon first then the ground, his other foot was in bounds. The pylon only designates where the plane of the goal line extends. It has nothing to do with getting a foot down for a completion.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Originally Posted by Vrillon82 He didnt need to. I will go read the rule book or get clarification. But since his foot touched the Pylon first before hitting the ground, that is a completed catch or TD. Touching the Pylon is the same as getting your foot in bounds, in the case of Moore, 1 foot hit Pylon first then the ground, his other foot was in bounds. If he had hit the pylon with the ball THEN it would be a TD is the way I interpret the rule. Keep in mind, a body part does not need to cross the plane.. the ball does.

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