Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell

NOLA54 · 09-24-2012, 12:35 PM

It doesn't matter who we blame the fact is we can't win a game whether we are ahead or behind. This is not what we are accustomed to and it feels bad. Undoubtley Gooddell knew what he was doing when he suspended Payton for the year. It appears he will keep us out of the superbowl.

73Saint · 09-24-2012, 12:37 PM

It's a combination of a lot of things. No one person, or lack thereof, not one side of the ball or another. The tumultuous off season hurt, Brees' holdout hurt, the current lack of leadership hurts, our O-line and D-line play is killing us, the scab refs hurt. All of it...no one thing.

Vrillon82 · 09-24-2012, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

The refs blew the TD by PT.

The refs missed a holding call on thelong TD run

The refs missed missed several push-offs by KC wrs.

And don't get me started on what Goodell has done.

Bottom line: Our defense had cost us 3 staright games.

They blew the Lance Moore TD to, the Pylon is part of the field of play, since his foot touched it, his other foot was in bounds, its a completed catch if not a TD.

Instead of 24 pts, we should of had 38 pts in that game.

jegirouard · 09-24-2012, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

I still can't believe people think our offense is fine...

thank you! How many 3 and outs did our 100 million dollar man lead us to at the end of that game... consecutive 3 and outs?

jlouhill · 09-24-2012, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

I won't blame the refs, but I'll damn sure put an ample amount of blame on Goodell!

I'm with you on that one SloMo. I think a lot of us underestimated the loss of Sean and the effect this whole offseason would have on our players. They're only human. While I believe there are some who have worn out their welcome here I think this whole mess has just screwed up their heads so much they are having a hard time even functioning. There's plenty enough blame to go around but in my opinion, Goodell screwed up this season royally for us and I think that was his intention. How can a man be allowed to so demoralize an organization and trample on a fanbase over hearsay, conjecture, and circumstantial evidence like he has this year and still keep his job is beyond me. No, the refs aren't to blame but I'm darn sure going to lay the majority of it on Goodells shoulders. That SOB screwed us everywhich way you can. Others were right when they said he knew what he was doing when he sent Sean home for a year.

Danno · 09-24-2012, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

They blew the Lance Moore TD to, the Pylon is part of the field of play, since his foot touched it, his other foot was in bounds, its a completed catch if not a TD.

Instead of 24 pts, we should of had 38 pts in that game.

The Lance Moore call was correct. He DID NOT come down with both feet inbounds. Its the only one they got right.

papz · 09-24-2012, 02:49 PM

Did the replacement officials get all the calls right?

Maybe. Maybe not.

“I don’t get into that business,” veteran defensive end Will Smith said. “I mean, the refs are human; they’re not going to call it as called all the time.

“You just have to play the game. You can’t leave it in their hands.”

Full article.
Replay reversals make mark on game between Saints, Chiefs | Saints | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, LA

Vrillon82 · 09-24-2012, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

The Lance Moore call was correct. He DID NOT come down with both feet inbounds. Its the only one they got right.

He didnt need to.

I will go read the rule book or get clarification.

But since his foot touched the Pylon first before hitting the ground, that is a completed catch or TD. Touching the Pylon is the same as getting your foot in bounds, in the case of Moore, 1 foot hit Pylon first then the ground, his other foot was in bounds.

Danno · 09-24-2012, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

He didnt need to.

I will go read the rule book or get clarification.

But since his foot touched the Pylon first before hitting the ground, that is a completed catch or TD. Touching the Pylon is the same as getting your foot in bounds, in the case of Moore, 1 foot hit Pylon first then the ground, his other foot was in bounds.

The pylon only designates where the plane of the goal line extends. It has nothing to do with getting a foot down for a completion.

ScottyRo · 09-24-2012, 03:08 PM

Can't put all the offensive woes on Brees, though. O-line has been bad - almost as if the man in charge of coaching them is off doing something else.

Besides that, WRs/TEs are dropping passes like they're scared of the ball.

09-24-2012, 12:35 PM	#21
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell It doesn't matter who we blame the fact is we can't win a game whether we are ahead or behind. This is not what we are accustomed to and it feels bad. Undoubtley Gooddell knew what he was doing when he suspended Payton for the year. It appears he will keep us out of the superbowl.

09-24-2012, 12:37 PM	#22
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell It's a combination of a lot of things. No one person, or lack thereof, not one side of the ball or another. The tumultuous off season hurt, Brees' holdout hurt, the current lack of leadership hurts, our O-line and D-line play is killing us, the scab refs hurt. All of it...no one thing. neugey and Srgt. Hulka like this.

09-24-2012, 01:38 PM	#23
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 The refs blew the TD by PT. The refs missed a holding call on thelong TD run The refs missed missed several push-offs by KC wrs. And don't get me started on what Goodell has done. Bottom line: Our defense had cost us 3 staright games. They blew the Lance Moore TD to, the Pylon is part of the field of play, since his foot touched it, his other foot was in bounds, its a completed catch if not a TD. Instead of 24 pts, we should of had 38 pts in that game.
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09-24-2012, 01:45 PM	#24
jegirouard 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 121	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Originally Posted by Jamessr I still can't believe people think our offense is fine... thank you! How many 3 and outs did our 100 million dollar man lead us to at the end of that game... consecutive 3 and outs?
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09-24-2012, 02:04 PM	#25
jlouhill 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Denton, Tx. Posts: 692	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Originally Posted by SloMotion I won't blame the refs, but I'll damn sure put an ample amount of blame on Goodell! I'm with you on that one SloMo. I think a lot of us underestimated the loss of Sean and the effect this whole offseason would have on our players. They're only human. While I believe there are some who have worn out their welcome here I think this whole mess has just screwed up their heads so much they are having a hard time even functioning. There's plenty enough blame to go around but in my opinion, Goodell screwed up this season royally for us and I think that was his intention. How can a man be allowed to so demoralize an organization and trample on a fanbase over hearsay, conjecture, and circumstantial evidence like he has this year and still keep his job is beyond me. No, the refs aren't to blame but I'm darn sure going to lay the majority of it on Goodells shoulders. That SOB screwed us everywhich way you can. Others were right when they said he knew what he was doing when he sent Sean home for a year.

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09-24-2012, 02:39 PM	#26
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Originally Posted by Vrillon82 They blew the Lance Moore TD to, the Pylon is part of the field of play, since his foot touched it, his other foot was in bounds, its a completed catch if not a TD. Instead of 24 pts, we should of had 38 pts in that game. The Lance Moore call was correct. He DID NOT come down with both feet inbounds. Its the only one they got right. papz likes this.

09-24-2012, 02:49 PM	#27
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Did the replacement officials get all the calls right? Maybe. Maybe not. “I don’t get into that business,” veteran defensive end Will Smith said. “I mean, the refs are human; they’re not going to call it as called all the time. “You just have to play the game. You can’t leave it in their hands.” Full article. Replay reversals make mark on game between Saints, Chiefs \| Saints \| The Advocate — Baton Rouge, LA

09-24-2012, 02:51 PM	#28
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Originally Posted by Danno The Lance Moore call was correct. He DID NOT come down with both feet inbounds. Its the only one they got right. He didnt need to. I will go read the rule book or get clarification. But since his foot touched the Pylon first before hitting the ground, that is a completed catch or TD. Touching the Pylon is the same as getting your foot in bounds, in the case of Moore, 1 foot hit Pylon first then the ground, his other foot was in bounds.
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09-24-2012, 02:59 PM	#29
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Originally Posted by Vrillon82 He didnt need to. I will go read the rule book or get clarification. But since his foot touched the Pylon first before hitting the ground, that is a completed catch or TD. Touching the Pylon is the same as getting your foot in bounds, in the case of Moore, 1 foot hit Pylon first then the ground, his other foot was in bounds. The pylon only designates where the plane of the goal line extends. It has nothing to do with getting a foot down for a completion.

09-24-2012, 03:08 PM	#30
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell Can't put all the offensive woes on Brees, though. O-line has been bad - almost as if the man in charge of coaching them is off doing something else. Besides that, WRs/TEs are dropping passes like they're scared of the ball.

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