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Losing Carl Nicks has affected the while O Line

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Fair enough! Somebody else posted something very similar a day or two ago, and they were saying it was Brees' fault. So my bad. E? It's got to be E, right? I still don't think Brees being there would make ...

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Old 09-24-2012, 11:59 AM   #11
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Re: Losing Carl Nicks has affected the while O Line

Fair enough! Somebody else posted something very similar a day or two ago, and they were saying it was Brees' fault. So my bad. E? It's got to be E, right?

I still don't think Brees being there would make THAT much difference in the O-line drills.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:07 PM   #12
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Fair enough! Somebody else posted something very similar a day or two ago, and they were saying it was Brees' fault. So my bad. E? It's got to be E, right?

I still don't think Brees being there would make THAT much difference in the O-line drills.
You dummy - it's a "U"!! Sheesh
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:10 PM   #13
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How can you say our run game has suffered??? When has it suffered this year? The reason it hasn't been great is because WE HAVENT BEEN RUNNING THE BALL!! Hello..do you even watch the games? PT just came off a 100 yrd performance. Everyboy was whining why hasn't Sproles got a rushing carry yet, well he did yesterday. It is no way shape or form the O line. Seems to be the one thing they are pretty good at.

Zack has been a total failure this year and Bushrod is not far behind. How many sacks has Brees had from a DT? All the pressure is coming from the ends.

Your grasping at straws trying to figure out why we suck. SaintsBro hit the nail on the head. The O line coach can't coach the O line and the team. So I am willing to bet he has his assistants working with the line.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:17 PM   #14
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I havent read any posts on this thread saying that our running game has suffered - who are you addressing?

As far as zero sacks from DTs, I never said that was a problem. I think you need to read more thoroughly before making your assumptions.
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Everybody needs to chill out. That's spelled "C-H-I-L-L" and "O-U-T" and includes a U.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:23 PM   #16
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Brees can't step up into the pocket anymore and our RB's are having a hard time finding holes. Grubbs is definitely no Nicks.
Usually when soemone says this, they are saying that since they can't find the holes that means we are not running the ball well. If I misinterpreted what you meant, I am sorry.
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i disagree, both tackle positions are getting abused!! I think Grubbs has done a pretty good job....plus its the ENTIRE offense, just cant pin on one guy...We need Sean payton back to solve it
Correct. Our OT's are the problem, not the interior guys.
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Usually when soemone says this, they are saying that since they can't find the holes that means we are not running the ball well. If I misinterpreted what you meant, I am sorry.
I understand and yes, sorry if it came across that way. I agree with you that Our OTs are the weak link and that Kromer can't pull double duty. My point about Nicks is that Brees seemed to have more space to step up and avoid the sacks from the outside when we had him on the line. I trust that Grubbs will be a good addition for us and that somehow our O'line will get better.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:39 PM   #19
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Re: Losing Carl Nicks has affected the while O Line

To me, it just seems like defenses now know how to attack us. I believe Payton would have found a way to play call around it. I wonder if anyone on our current coaching staff will find themselves without a job next season.
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Re: Losing Carl Nicks has affected the while O Line

When Payton was here I would have a hard time guessing what 50% of our plays would be. We'd run when I expected pass, we'd pass deep when I expected a short route or run. There would be many times when Brees would have the time to go through progressions to find an open man.
Now we have predictable play calling and Brees has no time to get to options in routes. The big plays we have made in the run have come off of unexpected situational calls. When we need to run we have trouble. When we need to pass we have trouble. Nothing is firing on all cylinders for sure.
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