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|Mitch| 09-24-2012 05:19 PM
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Nah, we ride this year out and get help this offseason/draft...

Danno 09-24-2012 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 442622)
Nah, we ride this year out and get help this offseason/draft...
Exactly. We're only short 1 pick and we'll be OK cap wise especially with Bushrod (2013 UFA 8 mill this season)
Will Smith (due 15 mill in 2013, ain't gonna happen)
Roman Harper (due 8 mill, will renegotiate or bye bye)
Sedrick Ellis (2013 UFA, 8 mill this season)
Malcolm Jenkins (due 4 mill, will renegotiate or bye bye)

Thats over 40 million coming off the books next season. I'd imagine we try and resign all at much lower salaries.

lsutigerfan 09-24-2012 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 442608)
Problem is the Saints really do not have much trade bait available. There are probably two guys on the entire roster who could bring a 1st round draft pick or an impact defensive player. Only problem is if the Saints were to trade either of those two guys, the season would really be doomed. Talking about Brees and Sproles if you haven't figured that out.
Sproles wouldn't bring us a first rounder, no way. However Jimmy Graham would and I'd be pissed if that happend.

73Saint 09-24-2012 07:13 PM
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Would Ingram even bring anything? He's hot garbage if you ask me..

CharityMike 09-24-2012 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 73Saint (Post 442673)
Would Ingram even bring anything? He's hot garbage if you ask me..
Yeah I am struggling to like him more and more as the games go by. I do think Carmichael is handcuffing him though. It is common knowledge now that when Ingram is in the backfield it is a run. Hard to surprise a D when as soon as they see your face they adjust the D play.

73Saint 09-24-2012 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 442679)
Yeah I am struggling to like him more and more as the games go by. I do think Carmichael is handcuffing him though. It is common knowledge now that when Ingram is in the backfield it is a run. Hard to surprise a D when as soon as they see your face they adjust the D play.
Agreed, and I too have tried to like him. But watch his legs when he hits the line, then watch Pierre. It's like night and day. I hope he can turn it around.

The Dude 09-24-2012 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 442566)
Those 3 combined wouldn't net us a starter.

We'd have to offer Colston, Henderson, or maybe Moore to land us a decent defensive player.
Exactly. I haven't been a fan of this thought mainly because I still don't think we have seen him used to his capability, but what about Ingram?

Jamessr 09-24-2012 08:19 PM
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To think we traded up just to get Ingram...

73Saint 09-24-2012 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 442706)
To think we traded up just to get Ingram...

Well, just think of it this way...had we Not traded up, Goodell would have taken that pick from us.

Speedy Ron 09-24-2012 08:33 PM
Re: Time to trade for defensive help?
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 442634)
Exactly. We're only short 1 pick and we'll be OK cap wise especially with Bushrod (2013 UFA 8 mill this season)
Will Smith (due 15 mill in 2013, ain't gonna happen)
Roman Harper (due 8 mill, will renegotiate or bye bye)
Sedrick Ellis (2013 UFA, 8 mill this season)
Malcolm Jenkins (due 4 mill, will renegotiate or bye bye)

Thats over 40 million coming off the books next season. I'd imagine we try and resign all at much lower salaries.
I honestly would not care if all of them left this team.will smith is defending himself every year from a suspension it seems. Bush rod is falling off this year but doesn't deserve that kind of salary. I wouldn't even wait til the offseason to let Ellis and Jenkins go. Harper is playing out of position...he'd be a better lb than Shanle. I think we could upgrade these positions for the same price


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