What's wrong with the New Orleans Saints?

Ashley · 09-25-2012, 10:38 AM

The offensive is not doing anything at all. WR's dropping passes, O line is very bad. Strief is just plan bad. He was not an up for this role. Last year he wasn't that good either. Maybe his mind is on his hot ass wife, ( I cant blame him at all, have you seen her). Whatever it is he needs to be replaced.
As for as the others. I'm not going to lean on Grubbs yet, it's a new system for him.
No need to talk defensive, the only ones that can play are Jabari. I will hold out on our new Lb core. Once again they are new, now this is a new scheme so all the players are new to this. BUT come on they sucked for now long now. It is time to totally rebuild this d.

Belair57 · 09-25-2012, 11:20 AM

bounty offseason + no headcoach = DISASTER

mike27 · 09-25-2012, 12:05 PM

The one thing no one is mentioning is the officials--it's as if we're playing them too. Perhaps the Thomas play had the ball hitting the ground. But there wasn't even one camera angle that clearly showed the ball hitting the ground. He had his hand under it, yet the referee reversed the on-the-field call.

And that darned field goal looked inside--I followed it on my DVR, and even when the ball was way smaller than the goal posts (they are roughly the same diameter with the ball), it was still inside the goal-posts. Even political commentator Cenk Uygur played it on his show.

And who knows about all the smaller things, like holding being called on many little plays where they made some ground. These replacements need to go, to be tossed to the curb.

FinSaint · 09-25-2012, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by mike27

The one thing no one is mentioning is the officials--it's as if we're playing them too. Perhaps the Thomas play had the ball hitting the ground. But there wasn't even one camera angle that clearly showed the ball hitting the ground. He had his hand under it, yet the referee reversed the on-the-field call.

And that darned field goal looked inside--I followed it on my DVR, and even when the ball was way smaller than the goal posts (they are roughly the same diameter with the ball), it was still inside the goal-posts. Even political commentator Cenk Uygur played it on his show.

And who knows about all the smaller things, like holding being called on many little plays where they made some ground. These replacements need to go, to be tossed to the curb.

Also, the Moore catch where his other foot clearly, at least to me, hit the side of the pylon before the shoe hit the ground out of bounds.

Still, the call was overturned even though I can't believe they saw 100% evidence to overturn the initial call of Moore making the catch, but being a little short of the goal-line.

Danno · 09-25-2012, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Also, the Moore catch where his other foot clearly, at least to me, hit the side of the pylon before the shoe hit the ground out of bounds.

Still, the call was overturned even though I can't believe they saw 100% evidence to overturn the initial call of Moore making the catch, but being a little short of the goal-line.

The pylon isn't part of the field, it merely identifies the plane of the goal line. You still have to have the 2nd foot touch the ground.

FinSaint · 09-25-2012, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

The pylon isn't part of the field, it merely identifies the plane of the goal line. You still have to have the 2nd foot touch the ground.

OK, I was just going by what the broadcast team was saying about the rule. Naturally, I should've known better than to trust Gumbel's and Dierdorf's knowledge of the rules.

FinSaint · 09-25-2012, 12:20 PM

It just baffles me how bad especially Ellis looked against the Chiefs' O-Line, he got pushed aside far too easily and when he had a chance to make a play on Cassel... he just ran circles around him.

Johnson and Hicks looked much better as the DT tandem than Bunkley and Ellis did, which I guess is why they saw more playing time late in the game.

I really don't know if the main reason why the defense has been so inept is because of Spags' scheme or the personnel running it, but if I'd have to pick one I'd say that there are far too many players on the defense who need to be upgraded to someone else - Ellis is the main example of this.

I wouldn't have thought losing SP for the year would have had this big of an affect on the team's performance, but I have to believe that his absence is the number 1 reason why this team has been so out of sync this far.

TheOak · 09-25-2012, 01:16 PM

I would go so far as to say its not the players.. It is not the lack of Sean Payton... Many teams have won Super Bowls with out Sean Payton, and less talent than we have on the field.

Its the present coaches inability to adjust.

NOLA54 · 09-25-2012, 01:20 PM

I think we are trying to go from first to worst and maybe we desrve it if we can't play upt to our talent & potential with or without Payton. I think the only team we can beat is ourselves & we are 3/0 in that department.

But at the same time I feel like we have become spoiled enough that we are hatting on our team. I'm not saying make excuses for their play and lack of intensity. Their character can now be measured in what they do from this point out. Will someone make bold moves to try to salvage the season or will they just accept their fate?

Boutte · 09-25-2012, 07:56 PM

This is so depressing.

09-25-2012, 10:38 AM	#1
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: What's wrong with the New Orleans Saints? The offensive is not doing anything at all. WR's dropping passes, O line is very bad. Strief is just plan bad. He was not an up for this role. Last year he wasn't that good either. Maybe his mind is on his hot ass wife, ( I cant blame him at all, have you seen her). Whatever it is he needs to be replaced. As for as the others. I'm not going to lean on Grubbs yet, it's a new system for him. No need to talk defensive, the only ones that can play are Jabari. I will hold out on our new Lb core. Once again they are new, now this is a new scheme so all the players are new to this. BUT come on they sucked for now long now. It is time to totally rebuild this d. Attached Thumbnails
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09-25-2012, 11:20 AM	#2
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09-25-2012, 12:05 PM	#3
mike27 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 104 Blog Entries: 2	Re: What's wrong with the New Orleans Saints? The one thing no one is mentioning is the officials--it's as if we're playing them too. Perhaps the Thomas play had the ball hitting the ground. But there wasn't even one camera angle that clearly showed the ball hitting the ground. He had his hand under it, yet the referee reversed the on-the-field call. And that darned field goal looked inside--I followed it on my DVR, and even when the ball was way smaller than the goal posts (they are roughly the same diameter with the ball), it was still inside the goal-posts. Even political commentator Cenk Uygur played it on his show. And who knows about all the smaller things, like holding being called on many little plays where they made some ground. These replacements need to go, to be tossed to the curb.

09-25-2012, 12:26 PM	#4
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: What's wrong with the New Orleans Saints? Originally Posted by mike27 The one thing no one is mentioning is the officials--it's as if we're playing them too. Perhaps the Thomas play had the ball hitting the ground. But there wasn't even one camera angle that clearly showed the ball hitting the ground. He had his hand under it, yet the referee reversed the on-the-field call. And that darned field goal looked inside--I followed it on my DVR, and even when the ball was way smaller than the goal posts (they are roughly the same diameter with the ball), it was still inside the goal-posts. Even political commentator Cenk Uygur played it on his show. And who knows about all the smaller things, like holding being called on many little plays where they made some ground. These replacements need to go, to be tossed to the curb. Also, the Moore catch where his other foot clearly, at least to me, hit the side of the pylon before the shoe hit the ground out of bounds. Still, the call was overturned even though I can't believe they saw 100% evidence to overturn the initial call of Moore making the catch, but being a little short of the goal-line.

09-25-2012, 12:56 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: What's wrong with the New Orleans Saints? Originally Posted by FinSaint Also, the Moore catch where his other foot clearly, at least to me, hit the side of the pylon before the shoe hit the ground out of bounds. Still, the call was overturned even though I can't believe they saw 100% evidence to overturn the initial call of Moore making the catch, but being a little short of the goal-line. The pylon isn't part of the field, it merely identifies the plane of the goal line. You still have to have the 2nd foot touch the ground.

09-25-2012, 05:02 PM	#6
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: What's wrong with the New Orleans Saints? Originally Posted by Danno The pylon isn't part of the field, it merely identifies the plane of the goal line. You still have to have the 2nd foot touch the ground. OK, I was just going by what the broadcast team was saying about the rule. Naturally, I should've known better than to trust Gumbel's and Dierdorf's knowledge of the rules.

09-25-2012, 12:20 PM	#7
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: What's wrong with the New Orleans Saints? It just baffles me how bad especially Ellis looked against the Chiefs' O-Line, he got pushed aside far too easily and when he had a chance to make a play on Cassel... he just ran circles around him. Johnson and Hicks looked much better as the DT tandem than Bunkley and Ellis did, which I guess is why they saw more playing time late in the game. I really don't know if the main reason why the defense has been so inept is because of Spags' scheme or the personnel running it, but if I'd have to pick one I'd say that there are far too many players on the defense who need to be upgraded to someone else - Ellis is the main example of this. I wouldn't have thought losing SP for the year would have had this big of an affect on the team's performance, but I have to believe that his absence is the number 1 reason why this team has been so out of sync this far.
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09-25-2012, 01:16 PM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: What's wrong with the New Orleans Saints? I would go so far as to say its not the players.. It is not the lack of Sean Payton... Many teams have won Super Bowls with out Sean Payton, and less talent than we have on the field. Its the present coaches inability to adjust.

09-25-2012, 01:20 PM	#9
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What's wrong with the New Orleans Saints? I think we are trying to go from first to worst and maybe we desrve it if we can't play upt to our talent & potential with or without Payton. I think the only team we can beat is ourselves & we are 3/0 in that department. But at the same time I feel like we have become spoiled enough that we are hatting on our team. I'm not saying make excuses for their play and lack of intensity. Their character can now be measured in what they do from this point out. Will someone make bold moves to try to salvage the season or will they just accept their fate?

09-25-2012, 07:56 PM	#10
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: What's wrong with the New Orleans Saints? This is so depressing.

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