Two most disappointing players

Ashley · 09-30-2012, 10:52 PM

I don't know who to think. Everyone has been, but i want to trade Ingram. He might be good, be we will never find out. That is as long as he is a Saint.

Our players drop balls all the time. Henderson, which would have gave us a first and goal, Moore, Sproles, hell they all dropped a pass today. The only one who didn't drop one today was Morgan. I almost crapped myself when he held on to it.
The D just flat sucks. I'm tired of picking on them

Halo · 09-30-2012, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

...but i want to trade Ingram. He might be good, be we will never find out. That is as long as he is a Saint.

That's my point. I mean, what's the point in drafting a skills players you will not utilize correctly? The running plays with Ingram are terrible. So far this season ANY running play has is terrible with ALL out running backs, PT included.

I like Ingram. I think he'll be a solid NFL back.

Right now we are super overly desperate for a solid, pass-rushing, ball hog monster on the d-line. I say package Ingram up with Devery (or whatever else) and make a damn trade with a team who needs them and activate Ivory.

Somebody, something... we have a ton of talent on offense sitting the bench and a defense lacking at almost every position.

hagan714 · 10-01-2012, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I don't know who to think. Everyone has been, but i want to trade Ingram. He might be good, be we will never find out. That is as long as he is a Saint.

The D just flat sucks. I'm tired of picking on them

ok i have been sitting and giving this kid time to show me something.

No i did not jump up and down over the pick and still think PT is our #1 RB.

Now my issue to date has not been so much Mark and his inability to impress me as it has been the way the saints use him. Since mid season of last year teams played 8 in the box or ran run blitzes when he took the field.

So i can not pass judgement on him at this point. the saints are very predictable now in what we running and defenses know how to play us.

what will you get for him? squat! Lets try working on his blocking and blitz pick ups or sit down and figure a way to get him open in the flat. Because he is a straight line runner that has maybe one cut when hitting the line. he has yet to show the ability to sneak though a defenses front 7. Then again our OL is to blame for part of it. I will not go there.

so i say we are stuck with him or better he is stuck with us till the saints build an OL that can run block better. face it we have two solid OG and a serviceable center and two OT that leave a lot to be desired at this point for two very different reasons.

i said i was not going there. sorry

Ashley · 10-01-2012, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

ok i have been sitting and giving this kid time to show me something.

No i did not jump up and down over the pick and still think PT is our #1 RB.

Now my issue to date has not been so much Mark and his inability to impress me as it has been the way the saints use him. Since mid season of last year teams played 8 in the box or ran run blitzes when he took the field.

So i can not pass judgement on him at this point. the saints are very predictable now in what we running and defenses know how to play us.

what will you get for him? squat! Lets try working on his blocking and blitz pick ups or sit down and figure a way to get him open in the flat. Because he is a straight line runner that has maybe one cut when hitting the line. he has yet to show the ability to sneak though a defenses front 7. Then again our OL is to blame for part of it. I will not go there.

so i say we are stuck with him or better he is stuck with us till the saints build an OL that can run block better. face it we have two solid OG and a serviceable center and two OT that leave a lot to be desired at this point for two very different reasons.

i said i was not going there. sorry

No I bet we could get something for him. HE will be a better back in a different system. Anyone who knows football can see that. Yes our O line cant open a hole for ****, but we need to do something, Ivory will not get us anything. Plus we are not going to trade PT or Sproles. We don't have much to trade, but number 22 would get us something. If not that will just be another wasted pick.

09-30-2012, 11:00 PM	#2
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,894 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Two most disappointing players Originally Posted by Ashley ...but i want to trade Ingram. He might be good, be we will never find out. That is as long as he is a Saint. That's my point. I mean, what's the point in drafting a skills players you will not utilize correctly? The running plays with Ingram are terrible. So far this season ANY running play has is terrible with ALL out running backs, PT included. I like Ingram. I think he'll be a solid NFL back. Right now we are super overly desperate for a solid, pass-rushing, ball hog monster on the d-line. I say package Ingram up with Devery (or whatever else) and make a damn trade with a team who needs them and activate Ivory. Somebody, something... we have a ton of talent on offense sitting the bench and a defense lacking at almost every position. Ashley, Rugby Saint II and SaintsBro like this.
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10-01-2012, 07:45 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Two most disappointing players Originally Posted by Ashley I don't know who to think. Everyone has been, but i want to trade Ingram. He might be good, be we will never find out. That is as long as he is a Saint. The D just flat sucks. I'm tired of picking on them ok i have been sitting and giving this kid time to show me something. No i did not jump up and down over the pick and still think PT is our #1 RB. Now my issue to date has not been so much Mark and his inability to impress me as it has been the way the saints use him. Since mid season of last year teams played 8 in the box or ran run blitzes when he took the field. So i can not pass judgement on him at this point. the saints are very predictable now in what we running and defenses know how to play us. what will you get for him? squat! Lets try working on his blocking and blitz pick ups or sit down and figure a way to get him open in the flat. Because he is a straight line runner that has maybe one cut when hitting the line. he has yet to show the ability to sneak though a defenses front 7. Then again our OL is to blame for part of it. I will not go there. so i say we are stuck with him or better he is stuck with us till the saints build an OL that can run block better. face it we have two solid OG and a serviceable center and two OT that leave a lot to be desired at this point for two very different reasons. i said i was not going there. sorry Halo and TheOak like this.
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10-01-2012, 08:09 AM	#4
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Two most disappointing players Originally Posted by hagan714 ok i have been sitting and giving this kid time to show me something. No i did not jump up and down over the pick and still think PT is our #1 RB. Now my issue to date has not been so much Mark and his inability to impress me as it has been the way the saints use him. Since mid season of last year teams played 8 in the box or ran run blitzes when he took the field. So i can not pass judgement on him at this point. the saints are very predictable now in what we running and defenses know how to play us. what will you get for him? squat! Lets try working on his blocking and blitz pick ups or sit down and figure a way to get him open in the flat. Because he is a straight line runner that has maybe one cut when hitting the line. he has yet to show the ability to sneak though a defenses front 7. Then again our OL is to blame for part of it. I will not go there. so i say we are stuck with him or better he is stuck with us till the saints build an OL that can run block better. face it we have two solid OG and a serviceable center and two OT that leave a lot to be desired at this point for two very different reasons. i said i was not going there. sorry No I bet we could get something for him. HE will be a better back in a different system. Anyone who knows football can see that. Yes our O line cant open a hole for ****, but we need to do something, Ivory will not get us anything. Plus we are not going to trade PT or Sproles. We don't have much to trade, but number 22 would get us something. If not that will just be another wasted pick.

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09-30-2012, 10:52 PM	#1
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Two most disappointing players I don't know who to think. Everyone has been, but i want to trade Ingram. He might be good, be we will never find out. That is as long as he is a Saint. Our players drop balls all the time. Henderson, which would have gave us a first and goal, Moore, Sproles, hell they all dropped a pass today. The only one who didn't drop one today was Morgan. I almost crapped myself when he held on to it. The D just flat sucks. I'm tired of picking on them Halo likes this.