Jimmy Graham

jeanpierre · 09-30-2012, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by winmill1

I thought I made that clear. He used to have fire when he caught the ball, he was hard to bring down, and I saw him like swat a ball down when he was going to take a hit. Out of character for him.

Graham still has fire and he's still playing as hard...

Originally Posted by winmill1

And as of last week he led the league in drops. Moore and Sproles probably do now, but for the best Tight End in the league he has been dropping a lot of balls. Something is not right with him. He used to throw people out of the way and would fire up the whole team and now he is just quiet. He is still great but something is definitely missing.

Here's the problem with drops, same as interceptions and all stats - you have to watch the game to see what's going on so that accurate analysis can be done...

He's overworked - he's used to suck the defense in and then the other options begin to open up...the Joe Morgan TD - watch the previous plays and see how GB was set up...

J Graham is one of the few good things happening to this team right now...

winmill1 · 09-30-2012, 08:58 PM

I do watch the games every play and he has dropped many passes that he usually catches. The stat is the stat. He has been dropping for him a high amount of balls. It's unusual.

Jamessr · 09-30-2012, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by winmill1

It seems like he isn't trying and his fire is gone. I was wondering as well. It seems like he is afraid to take a hit now

I 100% disagree with you on this. JG has dropped a few passes nothing to get fired up over that. Plus it's just not the same when you're 0-4 and the other teams just has to point to the score boards...

We start winning the Beast Jimmy Graham will come back out

winmill1 · 09-30-2012, 08:59 PM

It looks like he is hearing footsteps, I have always worried about the big hits he takes and I think the one against Washington has stayed with him.

winmill1 · 09-30-2012, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

I 100% disagree with you on this. JG has dropped a few passes nothing to get fired up over that. Plus it's just not the same when you're 0-4 and the other teams just has to point to the score boards...

We start winning the Beast Jimmy Graham will come back out

So he only gets fired up if we are winning. We were winning 24-6 against kc and I didnt see anything. It's more than that. I think he is hiding an injury, maybe his back or the huge collisions are taking a toll.

winmill1 · 09-30-2012, 09:09 PM

Ok I am not bashing him. Something is off it seems. No matter what he is still top tight end in league. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a concussion week 1.

SaintsBro · 10-01-2012, 11:51 AM

I love Jimmy Graham, one of my favorite Saints, no question about it, so don't get me wrong here for pointing it out -- but sometimes, it seems to me like he is sorta disappearing from games after he gets his touchdown and does the dunk. I blogged about it, originally as kind of a joke -- but people's comments in this thread like "disappearing in the second half" and "doesn't look like he's trying out there" "looks like his fire is gone" are all kinda interesting comments to me. I feel like he generally looks on fire in the beginning of games, completely "normal" insane Jimmy Graham. Then in the 2nd half and end of games, I dunno, it feels sorta like I'm not hearing his name a lot. I can't put my finger on it, or figure it out. But he looks AMAZING early in the games, same as always, to me. It could maybe be a hidden injury that catches up to him, or defensive adjustments during the game, or something else.

papz · 10-01-2012, 11:59 AM

...or we just didn't make a big effort to get him the ball in the second half. He can't make plays if they ball isn't being thrown to him.

Mardigras9 · 10-01-2012, 12:11 PM

He has taken some big licks. When he is one of maybe two weapons the opposition has to make adjustments for usually, it's easy to make him less of a factor. Who didn't know Brees was going to throw the quick slant to him on the goal line?

Rugby Saint II · 10-01-2012, 12:14 PM

Graham looks like he is in a tunnel. That's what happens if you get a concussion. Everything is slowed down.

09-30-2012, 08:55 PM	#11
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Originally Posted by winmill1 I thought I made that clear. He used to have fire when he caught the ball, he was hard to bring down, and I saw him like swat a ball down when he was going to take a hit. Out of character for him. Graham still has fire and he's still playing as hard... Originally Posted by winmill1 And as of last week he led the league in drops. Moore and Sproles probably do now, but for the best Tight End in the league he has been dropping a lot of balls. Something is not right with him. He used to throw people out of the way and would fire up the whole team and now he is just quiet. He is still great but something is definitely missing. Here's the problem with drops, same as interceptions and all stats - you have to watch the game to see what's going on so that accurate analysis can be done... He's overworked - he's used to suck the defense in and then the other options begin to open up...the Joe Morgan TD - watch the previous plays and see how GB was set up... J Graham is one of the few good things happening to this team right now...

09-30-2012, 08:58 PM	#12
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Re: Jimmy Graham I do watch the games every play and he has dropped many passes that he usually catches. The stat is the stat. He has been dropping for him a high amount of balls. It's unusual.
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09-30-2012, 08:58 PM	#13
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Jimmy Graham Originally Posted by winmill1 It seems like he isn't trying and his fire is gone. I was wondering as well. It seems like he is afraid to take a hit now I 100% disagree with you on this. JG has dropped a few passes nothing to get fired up over that. Plus it's just not the same when you're 0-4 and the other teams just has to point to the score boards... We start winning the Beast Jimmy Graham will come back out

09-30-2012, 08:59 PM	#14
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Re: Jimmy Graham It looks like he is hearing footsteps, I have always worried about the big hits he takes and I think the one against Washington has stayed with him.
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09-30-2012, 09:01 PM	#15
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Re: Jimmy Graham Originally Posted by Jamessr I 100% disagree with you on this. JG has dropped a few passes nothing to get fired up over that. Plus it's just not the same when you're 0-4 and the other teams just has to point to the score boards... We start winning the Beast Jimmy Graham will come back out So he only gets fired up if we are winning. We were winning 24-6 against kc and I didnt see anything. It's more than that. I think he is hiding an injury, maybe his back or the huge collisions are taking a toll.
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09-30-2012, 09:09 PM	#16
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Re: Jimmy Graham Ok I am not bashing him. Something is off it seems. No matter what he is still top tight end in league. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a concussion week 1.
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10-01-2012, 11:51 AM	#17
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jimmy Graham I love Jimmy Graham, one of my favorite Saints, no question about it, so don't get me wrong here for pointing it out -- but sometimes, it seems to me like he is sorta disappearing from games after he gets his touchdown and does the dunk. I blogged about it, originally as kind of a joke -- but people's comments in this thread like "disappearing in the second half" and "doesn't look like he's trying out there" "looks like his fire is gone" are all kinda interesting comments to me. I feel like he generally looks on fire in the beginning of games, completely "normal" insane Jimmy Graham. Then in the 2nd half and end of games, I dunno, it feels sorta like I'm not hearing his name a lot. I can't put my finger on it, or figure it out. But he looks AMAZING early in the games, same as always, to me. It could maybe be a hidden injury that catches up to him, or defensive adjustments during the game, or something else.

10-01-2012, 11:59 AM	#18
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Jimmy Graham ...or we just didn't make a big effort to get him the ball in the second half. He can't make plays if they ball isn't being thrown to him.

10-01-2012, 12:11 PM	#19
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Jimmy Graham He has taken some big licks. When he is one of maybe two weapons the opposition has to make adjustments for usually, it's easy to make him less of a factor. Who didn't know Brees was going to throw the quick slant to him on the goal line?

10-01-2012, 12:14 PM	#20
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Jimmy Graham Graham looks like he is in a tunnel. That's what happens if you get a concussion. Everything is slowed down.

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