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Just the facts....
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; 2 Redzone trips against GB and you only get 6 points, you lose. 1st and goal on the one, you don't even attempt to punch it in behind the FB? Not even 1 dive just to play smashmouth football is ...
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10-01-2012, 06:50 AM
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Just the facts....
2 Redzone trips against GB and you only get 6 points, you lose.
1st and goal on the one, you don't even attempt to punch it in behind the FB? Not even 1 dive just to play smashmouth football is failing in epic proportions. One thing is for sure, unless Loomis fires Carmichael and Kroemer they'll be with us for the foreseeable future. They aren't making improvements to their resumes with the play calling/coaching in these games. I don't see anyone unless they are really desperate hiring them away. I think in their primary roles they're good but without Payton running things and making the hard calls they show some lack of the "it" factor to be the HC (at least for now). The Def line.....what Def line? An O-line that gave up 7 sacks in one half a week ago should be susceptible to at least 1 sack or some assemblance of pressure that affects the QB. Zero, zip, nada.....we scare nobody with our men in the trenches. That's not Spags fault, that's a roster issue and has to be addressed in the off season. I'm thinking Sed Ellis is done and we need to move on, Bunkley isn't overly impressive, Smith is aging, Jordan shows some flashes but lacks consistency. We only have 1 starting CB, the rest, sorry, just sorry. Props to Robinson for the good pick but one little bright moment fails to outshine the sheer utter confusion he normally shows while in coverage. On a bright note, no turnovers (albeit because of a blown call on a kickoff)! Our Def will persist the way it is because of the personnel, our Off may fire at all times and pull some victories out but unless someone flips a switch and makes things happen magically it will be a long season of not shocking losses. |
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10-01-2012, 07:30 AM
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The defensive scheme is horrible. DB's never bump anybody at the line and always give way too much cushion. The offensive playcalling is equally bad. On the rare occasion a run is called, it's on first down. The substitutions at RB, where none of the RB's gets more than one play in a row, is ridiculous. As far as Personnel goes, Jenkins should be moved to CB in nickel and dime situations with Quddus coming in. Hicks should start over Ellis. Ivory should get a shot. Shanle and Herring should be cut. I don't care if they play someone off the street. I'm tired of watching them not make plays. Their replacements can't be any worse. They might accidentially make a play or two.
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10-01-2012, 07:44 AM
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[QUOTE=Cruize;444998]The defensive scheme is horrible. DB's never bump anybody at the line and always give way too much cushion.
I remember the same thing happening last season. Maybe our CBs just aren't capable of playing bump and run. |
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10-01-2012, 07:51 AM
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Maybe we should trade mark Ingram to the cardinals for Patrick Peterson!
Hell yeah! Lol |
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10-01-2012, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cars4dylan
you can not hope to win in lambo like that. but yet again the saints despite themselves almost pulled it out.
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no faith in OL by the coaching staff. the saints miss there OL coach
Originally Posted by cars4dylan
we have gone very vanilla and have become predictable in our play calling. this has gone on for over two years now. Teams now know how to defend against us. when was the last time the saints faked a reverse. a few years ago we all were thinking we were getting to cute with play calling but now it is the other extreme. the saints offense is, sorry to say is getting boring
Originally Posted by cars4dylan
swiss cheese is the new defense call sign
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they got totally taken to school yet again
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plus one or two tip balls that actually went the saints way. lucky lucky
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It all starts up front. till the front 4 gets there act together the rest will suffer
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"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins
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10-01-2012, 08:31 AM
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I've been blaming the D for the past 3 weeks, but yesterday was a complete TEAM failure.
Major screwups in all three phases of the game... |
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10-01-2012, 01:28 PM
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The DB's are the only part of the defense that are playing. And they are playing with one LB and no defensive line pressure. They are behind the eight ball before the game even starts.
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10-01-2012, 02:37 PM
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Lofton and Greer are the bright spots on defense.
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10-01-2012, 02:39 PM
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Re: Just the facts....
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II
After Greers showing yesterday... That is not a good thing.
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They at least looked competitive for most of the game. We are now officially in a rebuilding phase. What can we get on defense in a trade for Drew Brees?
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