We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ...

dizzle88 · 10-01-2012, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

There's nothing wrong with realism, but you gotta admit that some fans out there are acting like we are the Cleveland Browns -- as if our game against the Chiefs and Skins was as good as we can possibly hope to get, the highest peak the team can reach. This is it, we suck, and we are doomed to continue sucking -- as if this is all there is in store for us, forever in the future, we will limp along until draft day 2013 when MAYBE we can win a game.

Let's recap the exploits of the "headless chicken" Saints so far:

Game 1, Redskins - looked good for 1 drive on both sides of the ball, then fell apart
Game 2, Panthers - looked dominant for 1 quarter, then fell apart
Game 3, Chiefs -- looked good for one full half, then fell apart
Game 4, Packers - looked like "the normal Saints" of last year until what? 2:49 left in the 4th or something?

It's painful to watch these games, but it's also kinda difficult NOT to see a trend forming there. A trend of maybe a little less painful on the eyes?

This was the most "complete" game on offense and defense we have played so far, against the best team we've played, and while some of those other games were ugly and not ever as close as they appeared to be, this one was actually a close game. And some people here were predicting the Packers were going to drop 40 on us, that it would be this scorched earth blowout and all that.

Plus the last two games we have forced 4 turnovers on D, our O is getting back to normal, we are gradually getting better we just need better performance from D line, DB's and WR

TheOak · 10-01-2012, 03:22 PM

1. The Packers have has less than mediocre defenses for a few years now. This year they are 10th.

2. They are not in the Top 10 of ANY offensive categories. Actually their strongest category is passing and they just break the top 15.

Your comments about the refs makes absolutely no sense. And if you think I am willing to believe that our Defense knocked their offense from 1st to 20... well your as high as duck @#$$y.

What you saw clearly must be what is called a figment.

TheOak · 10-01-2012, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

We are 0-4, that is the stat that really matters.
Thankfully we still have 5 division games left, but we need a little help with ATL, almost got it from the Panthers if Cam could have held on to the ball late.

If we put two on Atl, take the panties and beat the Bucks twice, we are over Atl.

All of which can be done if we play like we plays yesterday... If we pull it together any better... We will be Div Champs.

poydras · 10-01-2012, 03:54 PM

I have season tickets and have had them since I graduated from college back during the bag days. I spend my money and my weekends going to Saints games and screaming until I have no voice. My spirits live and die with the Saints .... and you're accusing me of not doing my job as a fan because I'm realistic?!?! wow

73Saint · 10-01-2012, 04:05 PM

I too stopped reading when you began making accusations as to who is and who isn't a real fan.

Quite frankly, I am so sick of hearing that BS. I am optimistic (read most of my posts), but I hate it when people spout off about who is and who isn't a real fan. It's kind of like saying, "I'm not a racist, but..." In other words, if you have to start pointing fingers as to who isn't a fan, you probably aren't one yourself.

73Saint · 10-01-2012, 04:08 PM

"if you are a doubter then you are no true saint fan"

So, my 70 year old dad, who was in Tulane stadium when Dempsey kicked the 63 yarder, who cried like a baby when the Saints finally won the big one, he's not a real Saint fan under your theory. You should hear some of the negativity that comes out of his mouth, but I promise you he's more of a Saint fan then you will ever be.

I'm done contributing to this thread.

CharityMike · 10-01-2012, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

There's nothing wrong with realism, but you gotta admit that some fans out there are acting like we are the Cleveland Browns -- as if our game against the Chiefs and Skins was as good as we can possibly hope to get, the highest peak the team can reach. This is it, we suck, and we are doomed to continue sucking -- as if this is all there is in store for us, forever in the future, we will limp along until draft day 2013 when MAYBE we can win a game.

Let's recap the exploits of the "headless chicken" Saints so far:

Game 1, Redskins - looked good for 1 drive on both sides of the ball, then fell apart
Game 2, Panthers - looked dominant for 1 quarter, then fell apart
Game 3, Chiefs -- looked good for one full half, then fell apart
Game 4, Packers - looked like "the normal Saints" of last year until what? 2:49 left in the 4th or something?

It's painful to watch these games, but it's also kinda difficult NOT to see a trend forming there. A trend of maybe a little less painful on the eyes?

This was the most "complete" game on offense and defense we have played so far, against the best team we've played, and while some of those other games were ugly and not ever as close as they appeared to be, this one was actually a close game. And some people here were predicting the Packers were going to drop 40 on us, that it would be this scorched earth blowout and all that.

I agree 100%

I do see improvement also. What I don't see any improvement in is the D line. In all the years I have been watching football, you have to atleast hurry the QB. We are putting the weight of the world on the offense. The pressure is getting to them. When it comes to having to have a play, they are dropping balls, getting stupid penalties etc. I will continue to hope and cheer for our boys but I am not going to get my hopes up. It don't hurt as much.

neugey · 10-01-2012, 05:33 PM

Life, like being a Saints fan, should be a mixture of doubt and optimism. IMO you shouldn't be too far on one end or the other.

saintfan · 10-01-2012, 06:06 PM

dizzle88 · 10-01-2012, 06:18 PM

Negativity does not mean your not a real fan

Every week i watch the game whilst logged on to live chat

For the last 4 weeks I've been complaining about how our team has been playing, but still I haven't missed a game in 5 years and I show up every week, just because people complain and get a little negative when we do bad doesn't mean we aren't real fans, if anything it shows how much we all care because we always stay with the team no matter how bad they do

10-01-2012, 03:08 PM	#11
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... Originally Posted by SaintsBro There's nothing wrong with realism, but you gotta admit that some fans out there are acting like we are the Cleveland Browns -- as if our game against the Chiefs and Skins was as good as we can possibly hope to get, the highest peak the team can reach. This is it, we suck, and we are doomed to continue sucking -- as if this is all there is in store for us, forever in the future, we will limp along until draft day 2013 when MAYBE we can win a game. Let's recap the exploits of the "headless chicken" Saints so far: Game 1, Redskins - looked good for 1 drive on both sides of the ball, then fell apart Game 2, Panthers - looked dominant for 1 quarter, then fell apart Game 3, Chiefs -- looked good for one full half, then fell apart Game 4, Packers - looked like "the normal Saints" of last year until what? 2:49 left in the 4th or something? It's painful to watch these games, but it's also kinda difficult NOT to see a trend forming there. A trend of maybe a little less painful on the eyes? This was the most "complete" game on offense and defense we have played so far, against the best team we've played, and while some of those other games were ugly and not ever as close as they appeared to be, this one was actually a close game. And some people here were predicting the Packers were going to drop 40 on us, that it would be this scorched earth blowout and all that. Plus the last two games we have forced 4 turnovers on D, our O is getting back to normal, we are gradually getting better we just need better performance from D line, DB's and WR

10-01-2012, 03:22 PM	#12
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... 1. The Packers have has less than mediocre defenses for a few years now. This year they are 10th. 2. They are not in the Top 10 of ANY offensive categories. Actually their strongest category is passing and they just break the top 15. Your comments about the refs makes absolutely no sense. And if you think I am willing to believe that our Defense knocked their offense from 1st to 20... well your as high as duck @#$$y. What you saw clearly must be what is called a figment.
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10-01-2012, 03:27 PM	#13
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... Originally Posted by Mardigras9 We are 0-4, that is the stat that really matters. Thankfully we still have 5 division games left, but we need a little help with ATL, almost got it from the Panthers if Cam could have held on to the ball late. If we put two on Atl, take the panties and beat the Bucks twice, we are over Atl. All of which can be done if we play like we plays yesterday... If we pull it together any better... We will be Div Champs.

10-01-2012, 03:54 PM	#14
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... I have season tickets and have had them since I graduated from college back during the bag days. I spend my money and my weekends going to Saints games and screaming until I have no voice. My spirits live and die with the Saints .... and you're accusing me of not doing my job as a fan because I'm realistic?!?! wow Halo, saintfan, neugey and 4 others like this.

10-01-2012, 04:05 PM	#15
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... I too stopped reading when you began making accusations as to who is and who isn't a real fan. Quite frankly, I am so sick of hearing that BS. I am optimistic (read most of my posts), but I hate it when people spout off about who is and who isn't a real fan. It's kind of like saying, "I'm not a racist, but..." In other words, if you have to start pointing fingers as to who isn't a fan, you probably aren't one yourself. SaintsBro likes this.

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73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... "if you are a doubter then you are no true saint fan" So, my 70 year old dad, who was in Tulane stadium when Dempsey kicked the 63 yarder, who cried like a baby when the Saints finally won the big one, he's not a real Saint fan under your theory. You should hear some of the negativity that comes out of his mouth, but I promise you he's more of a Saint fan then you will ever be. I'm done contributing to this thread. Halo and SaintsBro like this.

10-01-2012, 04:25 PM	#17
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... Originally Posted by SaintsBro There's nothing wrong with realism, but you gotta admit that some fans out there are acting like we are the Cleveland Browns -- as if our game against the Chiefs and Skins was as good as we can possibly hope to get, the highest peak the team can reach. This is it, we suck, and we are doomed to continue sucking -- as if this is all there is in store for us, forever in the future, we will limp along until draft day 2013 when MAYBE we can win a game. Let's recap the exploits of the "headless chicken" Saints so far: Game 1, Redskins - looked good for 1 drive on both sides of the ball, then fell apart Game 2, Panthers - looked dominant for 1 quarter, then fell apart Game 3, Chiefs -- looked good for one full half, then fell apart Game 4, Packers - looked like "the normal Saints" of last year until what? 2:49 left in the 4th or something? It's painful to watch these games, but it's also kinda difficult NOT to see a trend forming there. A trend of maybe a little less painful on the eyes? This was the most "complete" game on offense and defense we have played so far, against the best team we've played, and while some of those other games were ugly and not ever as close as they appeared to be, this one was actually a close game. And some people here were predicting the Packers were going to drop 40 on us, that it would be this scorched earth blowout and all that. I agree 100% I do see improvement also. What I don't see any improvement in is the D line. In all the years I have been watching football, you have to atleast hurry the QB. We are putting the weight of the world on the offense. The pressure is getting to them. When it comes to having to have a play, they are dropping balls, getting stupid penalties etc. I will continue to hope and cheer for our boys but I am not going to get my hopes up. It don't hurt as much.

10-01-2012, 05:33 PM	#18
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10-01-2012, 06:18 PM	#20
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... Negativity does not mean your not a real fan Every week i watch the game whilst logged on to live chat For the last 4 weeks I've been complaining about how our team has been playing, but still I haven't missed a game in 5 years and I show up every week, just because people complain and get a little negative when we do bad doesn't mean we aren't real fans, if anything it shows how much we all care because we always stay with the team no matter how bad they do

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