We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ...

CharityMike · 10-01-2012, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

There's nothing wrong with realism, but you gotta admit that some fans out there are acting like we are the Cleveland Browns -- as if our game against the Chiefs and Skins was as good as we can possibly hope to get, the highest peak the team can reach. This is it, we suck, and we are doomed to continue sucking -- as if this is all there is in store for us, forever in the future, we will limp along until draft day 2013 when MAYBE we can win a game.

Let's recap the exploits of the "headless chicken" Saints so far:

Game 1, Redskins - looked good for 1 drive on both sides of the ball, then fell apart
Game 2, Panthers - looked dominant for 1 quarter, then fell apart
Game 3, Chiefs -- looked good for one full half, then fell apart
Game 4, Packers - looked like "the normal Saints" of last year until what? 2:49 left in the 4th or something?

It's painful to watch these games, but it's also kinda difficult NOT to see a trend forming there. A trend of maybe a little less painful on the eyes?

This was the most "complete" game on offense and defense we have played so far, against the best team we've played, and while some of those other games were ugly and not ever as close as they appeared to be, this one was actually a close game. And some people here were predicting the Packers were going to drop 40 on us, that it would be this scorched earth blowout and all that.

I agree 100%

I do see improvement also. What I don't see any improvement in is the D line. In all the years I have been watching football, you have to atleast hurry the QB. We are putting the weight of the world on the offense. The pressure is getting to them. When it comes to having to have a play, they are dropping balls, getting stupid penalties etc. I will continue to hope and cheer for our boys but I am not going to get my hopes up. It don't hurt as much.

Mardigras9 · 10-01-2012, 02:08 PM

We are 0-4, that is the stat that really matters.
Thankfully we still have 5 division games left, but we need a little help with ATL, almost got it from the Panthers if Cam could have held on to the ball late.

TheOak · 10-01-2012, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

We are 0-4, that is the stat that really matters.
Thankfully we still have 5 division games left, but we need a little help with ATL, almost got it from the Panthers if Cam could have held on to the ball late.

If we put two on Atl, take the panties and beat the Bucks twice, we are over Atl.

All of which can be done if we play like we plays yesterday... If we pull it together any better... We will be Div Champs.

TheOak · 10-01-2012, 02:22 PM

1. The Packers have has less than mediocre defenses for a few years now. This year they are 10th.

2. They are not in the Top 10 of ANY offensive categories. Actually their strongest category is passing and they just break the top 15.

Your comments about the refs makes absolutely no sense. And if you think I am willing to believe that our Defense knocked their offense from 1st to 20... well your as high as duck @#$$y.

What you saw clearly must be what is called a figment.

poydras · 10-01-2012, 02:54 PM

I have season tickets and have had them since I graduated from college back during the bag days. I spend my money and my weekends going to Saints games and screaming until I have no voice. My spirits live and die with the Saints .... and you're accusing me of not doing my job as a fan because I'm realistic?!?! wow

jeanpierre · 10-02-2012, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

I have season tickets and have had them since I graduated from college back during the bag days. I spend my money and my weekends going to Saints games and screaming until I have no voice. My spirits live and die with the Saints .... and you're accusing me of not doing my job as a fan because I'm realistic?!?! wow

Exactly.

Let me tell those Saints fans of the past ten years something:

There are a number of fans here who...

...watched John Gilliam run a kickoff back for a TD, not realizing that other than a half-footed Tom Dempsey set an unlikely Field Goal, would leave fans with not much to cheer, until...

...were there to watch an amazing talent in Archie Manning get clobbered before the rules to protect the quarterback were even speculated...

...were there to watch Buddy Deliberto slobber on WDSU ridicule the team that many of us loved reporting that fans should continue wearing bags...

...were there as Bum Phillips traded away all the talent the Saints had save Ricky Jackson and Stan Brock for over the hill bums...

...were there when Mr. Finks brought respectability to the Saints, installling a winning tradition with solid drafts and good coaching hires...

...were there when Coach Mora stubbornly refused to adjust, even in games, and let the best players go without the guidance of Jim Finks...

...were there when Buddy D convinced season ticket holders to lobby for Mike Ditka who, in turn, brought us a bipolar running back wearing a wedding dress...

...were there when Jim Haslett showed that a head coach should sometimes shut it, trust his players and his assistants who were better than him and not a quarterback who thought everything was a joke...

...were there when Hurricane Katrina and local bums destroyed our home giving Mr Benson an excuse to take it all away to San Antonio...

...were there for "The Block" on MNF against the Saints with music of Green Day & U2 still ringing in our ears...

...were there for the march to Lombardi Gras and validation of over forty years of painful drama...

...we have earned the right to cheer, to boo, to laugh, to cry, and now, to demand excellence.

73Saint · 10-02-2012, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Exactly.

Let me tell those Saints fans of the past ten years something:

There are a number of fans here who...

...watch John Gilliam run a kickoff back for a TD, not realizing that other than a half-footed Tom Dempsey set an unlikely Field Goal, not leave fans much to cheer...

...were there to watch an amazing talent in Archie Manning get clobbered before the rules to protect the quarterback were even speculated...

...were there to watch Buddy Deliberto slobber on WDSU ridicule the team that many of us loved reporting that fans should continue wearing bags...

...were there as Bum Phillips traded away all the talent the Saints had save Ricky Jackson and Stan Brock for over the hill bums...

...were there when Mr. Finks brought respectability to the Saints, installling a winning tradition with solid drafts and good coaching hires...

...were there when Coach Mora stubbornly refused to adjust, even in games, and let the best players go without the guidance of Jim Finks...

...were there when Buddy D convinced season ticket holders to lobby for Mike Ditka who, in turn, brought us a bipolar running back wearing a wedding dress...

...were there when Jim Haslett showed that a head coach should sometimes shut it, trust his players and his assistants who were better than him and not a quarterback who thought everything was a joke...

...were there when Hurricane Katrina and local bums destroyed our home giving Mr Benson an excuse to take it all away to San Antonio...

...were there for "The Block" on MNF against the Saints with music of Green Day & U2 still ringing in our ears...

...were there for the march to Lombardi Gras and validation of over forty years of painful drama...

...we have earned the right to cheer, to boo, to laugh, to cry, and now, to demand excellence.

Amen, Brotha!

skymike · 10-02-2012, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

There are a number of fans here who...

...watch John Gilliam run a kickoff back for a TD, not realizing that other than a half-footed Tom Dempsey set an unlikely Field Goal, not leave fans much to cheer......were there for "The Block" on MNF against the Saints with music of Green Day & U2 still ringing in our ears...

...were there for the march to Lombardi Gras and validation of over forty years of painful drama...

JP... You have written a masterpiece. This needs to be a poster.

jeanpierre · 10-02-2012, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

JP... You have written a masterpiece. This needs to be a poster.

Damn interns using my account again

73Saint · 10-01-2012, 03:05 PM

I too stopped reading when you began making accusations as to who is and who isn't a real fan.

Quite frankly, I am so sick of hearing that BS. I am optimistic (read most of my posts), but I hate it when people spout off about who is and who isn't a real fan. It's kind of like saying, "I'm not a racist, but..." In other words, if you have to start pointing fingers as to who isn't a fan, you probably aren't one yourself.

10-01-2012, 03:25 PM	#1
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... Originally Posted by SaintsBro There's nothing wrong with realism, but you gotta admit that some fans out there are acting like we are the Cleveland Browns -- as if our game against the Chiefs and Skins was as good as we can possibly hope to get, the highest peak the team can reach. This is it, we suck, and we are doomed to continue sucking -- as if this is all there is in store for us, forever in the future, we will limp along until draft day 2013 when MAYBE we can win a game. Let's recap the exploits of the "headless chicken" Saints so far: Game 1, Redskins - looked good for 1 drive on both sides of the ball, then fell apart Game 2, Panthers - looked dominant for 1 quarter, then fell apart Game 3, Chiefs -- looked good for one full half, then fell apart Game 4, Packers - looked like "the normal Saints" of last year until what? 2:49 left in the 4th or something? It's painful to watch these games, but it's also kinda difficult NOT to see a trend forming there. A trend of maybe a little less painful on the eyes? This was the most "complete" game on offense and defense we have played so far, against the best team we've played, and while some of those other games were ugly and not ever as close as they appeared to be, this one was actually a close game. And some people here were predicting the Packers were going to drop 40 on us, that it would be this scorched earth blowout and all that. I agree 100% I do see improvement also. What I don't see any improvement in is the D line. In all the years I have been watching football, you have to atleast hurry the QB. We are putting the weight of the world on the offense. The pressure is getting to them. When it comes to having to have a play, they are dropping balls, getting stupid penalties etc. I will continue to hope and cheer for our boys but I am not going to get my hopes up. It don't hurt as much.

10-01-2012, 02:08 PM	#2
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... We are 0-4, that is the stat that really matters. Thankfully we still have 5 division games left, but we need a little help with ATL, almost got it from the Panthers if Cam could have held on to the ball late.

10-01-2012, 02:27 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... Originally Posted by Mardigras9 We are 0-4, that is the stat that really matters. Thankfully we still have 5 division games left, but we need a little help with ATL, almost got it from the Panthers if Cam could have held on to the ball late. If we put two on Atl, take the panties and beat the Bucks twice, we are over Atl. All of which can be done if we play like we plays yesterday... If we pull it together any better... We will be Div Champs.

10-01-2012, 02:22 PM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... 1. The Packers have has less than mediocre defenses for a few years now. This year they are 10th. 2. They are not in the Top 10 of ANY offensive categories. Actually their strongest category is passing and they just break the top 15. Your comments about the refs makes absolutely no sense. And if you think I am willing to believe that our Defense knocked their offense from 1st to 20... well your as high as duck @#$$y. What you saw clearly must be what is called a figment.
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10-01-2012, 02:54 PM	#5
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... I have season tickets and have had them since I graduated from college back during the bag days. I spend my money and my weekends going to Saints games and screaming until I have no voice. My spirits live and die with the Saints .... and you're accusing me of not doing my job as a fan because I'm realistic?!?! wow Halo, saintfan, neugey and 4 others like this.

10-02-2012, 09:49 AM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... Originally Posted by poydras I have season tickets and have had them since I graduated from college back during the bag days. I spend my money and my weekends going to Saints games and screaming until I have no voice. My spirits live and die with the Saints .... and you're accusing me of not doing my job as a fan because I'm realistic?!?! wow Exactly. Let me tell those Saints fans of the past ten years something: There are a number of fans here who... ...watched John Gilliam run a kickoff back for a TD, not realizing that other than a half-footed Tom Dempsey set an unlikely Field Goal, would leave fans with not much to cheer, until... ...were there to watch an amazing talent in Archie Manning get clobbered before the rules to protect the quarterback were even speculated... ...were there to watch Buddy Deliberto slobber on WDSU ridicule the team that many of us loved reporting that fans should continue wearing bags... ...were there as Bum Phillips traded away all the talent the Saints had save Ricky Jackson and Stan Brock for over the hill bums... ...were there when Mr. Finks brought respectability to the Saints, installling a winning tradition with solid drafts and good coaching hires... ...were there when Coach Mora stubbornly refused to adjust, even in games, and let the best players go without the guidance of Jim Finks... ...were there when Buddy D convinced season ticket holders to lobby for Mike Ditka who, in turn, brought us a bipolar running back wearing a wedding dress... ...were there when Jim Haslett showed that a head coach should sometimes shut it, trust his players and his assistants who were better than him and not a quarterback who thought everything was a joke... ...were there when Hurricane Katrina and local bums destroyed our home giving Mr Benson an excuse to take it all away to San Antonio... ...were there for "The Block" on MNF against the Saints with music of Green Day & U2 still ringing in our ears... ...were there for the march to Lombardi Gras and validation of over forty years of painful drama... ...we have earned the right to cheer, to boo, to laugh, to cry, and now, to demand excellence. Halo, skymike, 73Saint and 3 others like this.
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10-02-2012, 11:27 AM	#7
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... Originally Posted by jeanpierre Exactly. Let me tell those Saints fans of the past ten years something: There are a number of fans here who... ...watch John Gilliam run a kickoff back for a TD, not realizing that other than a half-footed Tom Dempsey set an unlikely Field Goal, not leave fans much to cheer... ...were there to watch an amazing talent in Archie Manning get clobbered before the rules to protect the quarterback were even speculated... ...were there to watch Buddy Deliberto slobber on WDSU ridicule the team that many of us loved reporting that fans should continue wearing bags... ...were there as Bum Phillips traded away all the talent the Saints had save Ricky Jackson and Stan Brock for over the hill bums... ...were there when Mr. Finks brought respectability to the Saints, installling a winning tradition with solid drafts and good coaching hires... ...were there when Coach Mora stubbornly refused to adjust, even in games, and let the best players go without the guidance of Jim Finks... ...were there when Buddy D convinced season ticket holders to lobby for Mike Ditka who, in turn, brought us a bipolar running back wearing a wedding dress... ...were there when Jim Haslett showed that a head coach should sometimes shut it, trust his players and his assistants who were better than him and not a quarterback who thought everything was a joke... ...were there when Hurricane Katrina and local bums destroyed our home giving Mr Benson an excuse to take it all away to San Antonio... ...were there for "The Block" on MNF against the Saints with music of Green Day & U2 still ringing in our ears... ...were there for the march to Lombardi Gras and validation of over forty years of painful drama... ...we have earned the right to cheer, to boo, to laugh, to cry, and now, to demand excellence. Amen, Brotha!

10-02-2012, 03:17 PM	#8
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... Originally Posted by jeanpierre There are a number of fans here who... ...watch John Gilliam run a kickoff back for a TD, not realizing that other than a half-footed Tom Dempsey set an unlikely Field Goal, not leave fans much to cheer......were there for "The Block" on MNF against the Saints with music of Green Day & U2 still ringing in our ears... ...were there for the march to Lombardi Gras and validation of over forty years of painful drama... JP... You have written a masterpiece. This needs to be a poster.

10-02-2012, 05:02 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... Originally Posted by skymike JP... You have written a masterpiece. This needs to be a poster. Damn interns using my account again

10-01-2012, 03:05 PM	#10
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: We aren't doing our Jobs as Fans Either ... I too stopped reading when you began making accusations as to who is and who isn't a real fan. Quite frankly, I am so sick of hearing that BS. I am optimistic (read most of my posts), but I hate it when people spout off about who is and who isn't a real fan. It's kind of like saying, "I'm not a racist, but..." In other words, if you have to start pointing fingers as to who isn't a fan, you probably aren't one yourself. SaintsBro likes this.

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