Saints First Round Picks Since 2002

jeanpierre · 10-07-2012, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Some people seem to forget that all they did was win us a Championship.

So I really don't care who they drafted.

This season is a wash... waiting for the return of Payton.

Make no mistake, Payton with his leadership and ingenuity won that championship.

His job would be alot easier with better players, and that's the argument...

Without Payton, this thing has deflated...

frankeefrank · 10-11-2012, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Some people seem to forget that all they did was win us a Championship.

So I really don't care who they drafted.

This season is a wash... waiting for the return of Payton.

Genius statement

lumm0x · 10-07-2012, 09:57 AM

Show me a decade of any team's 1st round picks and I'll show you the same thing. Draft is a crap shoot. We are above many in drafting starters or at least roster players.

SaintsBro · 10-07-2012, 02:41 PM

So in other words, you're looking at the Super Bowl season and every year since then, and telling Loomis and the actual players themselves--"you didn't build that." It was all Payton, is that what you're saying?

jeanpierre · 10-07-2012, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

So in other words, you're looking at the Super Bowl season and every year since then, and telling Loomis and the actual players themselves--"you didn't build that." It was all Payton, is that what you're saying?

Oh they built it alright - Payton just made the most of it...

SaintsBro · 10-07-2012, 03:08 PM

OK, so Loomis DID build it after all. Now I'm confused. Because I thought you said earlier that the Saints did it all in spite of Loomis, that Loomis was the big problem. I am having a disconnect between the team's recent track record, playoff berths, records set and winning history under Sean Payton, and 12 #1 picks with only one "bust," I am having trouble linking all that up to it somehow being Loomis' fault.

jeanpierre · 10-07-2012, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

OK, so Loomis DID build it after all. Now I'm confused. Because I thought you said earlier that the Saints did it all in spite of Loomis, that Loomis was the big problem. I am having a disconnect between the team's recent track record, playoff berths, records set and winning history under Sean Payton, and 12 #1 picks with only one "bust," I am having trouble linking all that up to it somehow being Loomis' fault.

I never said one bust and posting that list shows how unimpressive the first round picks really are...

And without Payton, you're seeing the results of what the front office has assembled...

SaintsBro · 10-07-2012, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

And without Payton, you're seeing the results of what the front office has assembled...

????? Correction: Without Payton, you are seeing the results of what the front office has assembled, without Payton coach them. Unless I am mistaken and Loomis is supposed to coach them, while Payton is away? Of course, we both know that Payton has absolutely nothing to do with "assembling" the talent on the team -- he just coaches whichever guys Loomis evaluates and signs, whoever runs out the tunnel, that is who Payton is given. He really has done an amazing job considering the criminally shoddy performance Loomis has turned in year after year after year.

jeanpierre · 10-07-2012, 03:12 PM

It's like the argument for League MVP...

Now, the Pats are my far second favorite team (Boston is like a second home)- if I'm building a team and need to choose between Brady and Manning, it's Manning by a complete lap, why???

Brady goes out for the year and the Pats are still in it with Matt Cassell at QB?!?

Manning goes out for the year and it was a historic collapse, a complete debacle...

Brother, Sean Payton is that good a Head Coach...

His leadership, play calling, and instincts have masked the weaknesses of this team which are now, sadly being easily exploited...

This front office is overrated and as a fan I want to see that front office get its act together, quit mailing it in, and get Payton the bullets he needs to take this thing to a level that Payton's vision is trying to show us...

We've waited this long for a winner and there are several posters here (even some I disagree with) that could have added complementary players better and with more urgency than this front office...

UK_WhoDat · 10-07-2012, 03:12 PM

For me, gig kudos to the ORGANISATION for getting that Super Bowl.
Other organisations with greater opportunities to do the same, well they didn't.

Sp warts and all. WHO DAT!

10-11-2012, 02:46 PM	#2
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by Euphoria Some people seem to forget that all they did was win us a Championship. So I really don't care who they drafted. This season is a wash... waiting for the return of Payton. Genius statement
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10-07-2012, 09:57 AM	#3
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Show me a decade of any team's 1st round picks and I'll show you the same thing. Draft is a crap shoot. We are above many in drafting starters or at least roster players. SaintsBro likes this.

10-07-2012, 02:41 PM	#4
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 So in other words, you're looking at the Super Bowl season and every year since then, and telling Loomis and the actual players themselves--"you didn't build that." It was all Payton, is that what you're saying?

10-07-2012, 03:00 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by SaintsBro So in other words, you're looking at the Super Bowl season and every year since then, and telling Loomis and the actual players themselves--"you didn't build that." It was all Payton, is that what you're saying? Oh they built it alright - Payton just made the most of it...

10-07-2012, 03:08 PM	#6
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 OK, so Loomis DID build it after all. Now I'm confused. Because I thought you said earlier that the Saints did it all in spite of Loomis, that Loomis was the big problem. I am having a disconnect between the team's recent track record, playoff berths, records set and winning history under Sean Payton, and 12 #1 picks with only one "bust," I am having trouble linking all that up to it somehow being Loomis' fault.

10-07-2012, 01:40 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by Euphoria Some people seem to forget that all they did was win us a Championship. So I really don't care who they drafted. This season is a wash... waiting for the return of Payton. Make no mistake, Payton with his leadership and ingenuity won that championship. His job would be alot easier with better players, and that's the argument... Without Payton, this thing has deflated...

10-07-2012, 03:15 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by SaintsBro OK, so Loomis DID build it after all. Now I'm confused. Because I thought you said earlier that the Saints did it all in spite of Loomis, that Loomis was the big problem. I am having a disconnect between the team's recent track record, playoff berths, records set and winning history under Sean Payton, and 12 #1 picks with only one "bust," I am having trouble linking all that up to it somehow being Loomis' fault. I never said one bust and posting that list shows how unimpressive the first round picks really are... And without Payton, you're seeing the results of what the front office has assembled...

10-07-2012, 03:29 PM	#8
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by jeanpierre And without Payton, you're seeing the results of what the front office has assembled... ????? Correction: Without Payton, you are seeing the results of what the front office has assembled, without Payton coach them. Unless I am mistaken and Loomis is supposed to coach them, while Payton is away? Of course, we both know that Payton has absolutely nothing to do with "assembling" the talent on the team -- he just coaches whichever guys Loomis evaluates and signs, whoever runs out the tunnel, that is who Payton is given. He really has done an amazing job considering the criminally shoddy performance Loomis has turned in year after year after year.

10-07-2012, 03:12 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 It's like the argument for League MVP... Now, the Pats are my far second favorite team (Boston is like a second home)- if I'm building a team and need to choose between Brady and Manning, it's Manning by a complete lap, why??? Brady goes out for the year and the Pats are still in it with Matt Cassell at QB?!? Manning goes out for the year and it was a historic collapse, a complete debacle... Brother, Sean Payton is that good a Head Coach... His leadership, play calling, and instincts have masked the weaknesses of this team which are now, sadly being easily exploited... This front office is overrated and as a fan I want to see that front office get its act together, quit mailing it in, and get Payton the bullets he needs to take this thing to a level that Payton's vision is trying to show us... We've waited this long for a winner and there are several posters here (even some I disagree with) that could have added complementary players better and with more urgency than this front office...
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

10-07-2012, 03:12 PM	#10
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,004	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 For me, gig kudos to the ORGANISATION for getting that Super Bowl. Other organisations with greater opportunities to do the same, well they didn't. Sp warts and all. WHO DAT!

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