Drew Brees' record-breaking TD pass was a play Chase Daniel knew would work

Saint_LB · 10-09-2012, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

It's hard to say. Anything could happen. Drew could get hurt and Chase play (God forbid) and he could shine. He could get attention from other teams and the Saints either sign him or let him go. Or he could stay with the Saints until the end of his career and get a chance to start... or maybe not. We'll have to see.

For now, it's a mistake to not have someone on the roster who is familiar with our offense and talented enough to backup that familiarity.

There is no doubt that this is Drew's team for as long as he wants it to be. Chase will never beat-out Drew for the starting position. I believe Drew will do the right thing when the time comes, but my question is twofold.

First, will Chase be able to be patient enough to wait and be content with being a back-up, which, IMO, he is perfect for this team? Will some other team see his ability as being starter-worthy and roll the dice on him?

Secondly, is Chase really starting QB material in this league...or better yet...perceived as starting material by this organization? Is it possible that this is the perfect role for him, as it appears to be for someone like David Carr...and if it came down to it and Drew was gone, would they go out and draft or acquire what they consider to be a #1 rated signal caller?

Shoe. · 10-09-2012, 09:42 AM

I'd love it for Chase if he were to get in a Matt Flynn type situation, i.e., he comes in at the end of the season to rest Drew (since we'll have already locked up the playoff spot by then *fingers crossed*) and he has one of those ridiculous games where he just flat out goes off, and then gets an equally ridiculous offer based on his play in that one game. I mean really, the guys got a SB ring, he's been backing up one of the all time greats, he deserves a shot somewhere to show what he can do.

TheOak · 10-09-2012, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

I'd love it for Chase if he were to get in a Matt Flynn type situation, i.e., he comes in at the end of the season to rest Drew (since we'll have already locked up the playoff spot by then *fingers crossed*) and he has one of those ridiculous games where he just flat out goes off, and then gets an equally ridiculous offer based on his play in that one game. I mean really, the guys got a SB ring, he's been backing up one of the all time greats, he deserves a shot somewhere to show what he can do.

I have as much hope as anyone... Not for a locked up rest Drew scenario though.

We would have to Lock up the NFC South and HAVE to beat Atlanta twice, or some teams will have to go downhill really quick for us to lock anything up.

Mardigras9 · 10-09-2012, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Do you think it will ever be Chase Daniel's team?

Not likely.

TheOak · 10-09-2012, 10:31 AM

Chase understands his role, and he is perfect for this team as he is presently being utilized. If this organization thought Chase was starting material, we wouldn't keep bringing in 2-3 QB's for preseason.

They bring in and try out new QB's because they are looking for the next Drew Brees, not another Chase Daniels.

Chase has a SB ring because he was part of the team, much like Shanle. "Backing up" essentially means he watched Drew. He has had chances to "light it up" in preseason and doesn't. He has been in two regular season games and has yet to WOW anyone enough to come after him.

I am in no way saying he is bad at all, I am just saying he has yet to make the most of his opportunities.

Think about this when you think starting QB for the Saints. With the rest of our season being a must win fest... What are our chances with Drew? What are our chances if Chase is starting?

Chase also likes to bolt under pressure. Not a good thing, look at Vick's injuries, RGIII concussion this week.. We need a passer.

The Brady and Rogers argument could be used but how many of those arguments are out there?

Rugby Saint II · 10-09-2012, 01:46 PM

No one knows how good Chase is because we don't show our hand on anything. Chase never gets the chance to sling the ball. His job is to hand the ball off.

SaintsBro · 10-09-2012, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Chase also likes to bolt under pressure. Not a good thing, look at Vick's injuries, RGIII concussion this week.. We need a passer.

Yeah this is one part of the Chase discussion I kinda don't agree with you on.

I freak out screaming when he does it of course, but I kinda DIG that Chase has that spooked-horse, headless chicken running move, like Alex Smith does. If (GOD FORBID) Chase ever comes in and has to (GOD FORBID) win a game, with (GOD FORBID) something important on the line, all bets are off, and NOBODY will be expecting that (GOD FORBID) desperate crazy running up the middle thing that Chase and Alex Smith does. Go back to pass, pump it around, tuck and run with it, aim for that big green patch in the middle, slide boy, slide, get down! He will move some chains with that, against far better players than him, I guarantee it.

That's exactly the way Alex Smith does it -- it's kind of a sissy move, an un-manly, ugly, chickensh**, half-assed way to get a cheap first down... it almost feels like cheating, sort of, but it WORKS! And it drives opposing fans absolutely BANANAS when you do it to them a few times, especially on the road in a hostile stadium.

Chase is a really good backup for the Saints, in that he's "like" Drew and the plays kinda look somewhat the same, but he's also got his own thing going on with the crazy take-off-running thing. He's the $1 Million Dollar Man, and Drew's the $100 Million Dollar Man.

TheOak · 10-09-2012, 04:04 PM

SaintsBro:
I buy that... I do recall saying in preseason he needs some time with MLB to learn how to SLIDE.

Rugby:
Experts watch him daily. I am sure if he had shown then something in practice by now he would have had opportunity.

10-09-2012, 09:40 AM	#11
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Drew Brees' record-breaking TD pass was a play Chase Daniel knew would work Originally Posted by Halo It's hard to say. Anything could happen. Drew could get hurt and Chase play (God forbid) and he could shine. He could get attention from other teams and the Saints either sign him or let him go. Or he could stay with the Saints until the end of his career and get a chance to start... or maybe not. We'll have to see. For now, it's a mistake to not have someone on the roster who is familiar with our offense and talented enough to backup that familiarity. There is no doubt that this is Drew's team for as long as he wants it to be. Chase will never beat-out Drew for the starting position. I believe Drew will do the right thing when the time comes, but my question is twofold. First, will Chase be able to be patient enough to wait and be content with being a back-up, which, IMO, he is perfect for this team? Will some other team see his ability as being starter-worthy and roll the dice on him? Secondly, is Chase really starting QB material in this league...or better yet...perceived as starting material by this organization? Is it possible that this is the perfect role for him, as it appears to be for someone like David Carr...and if it came down to it and Drew was gone, would they go out and draft or acquire what they consider to be a #1 rated signal caller?
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10-09-2012, 09:42 AM	#12
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Drew Brees' record-breaking TD pass was a play Chase Daniel knew would work I'd love it for Chase if he were to get in a Matt Flynn type situation, i.e., he comes in at the end of the season to rest Drew (since we'll have already locked up the playoff spot by then fingers crossed) and he has one of those ridiculous games where he just flat out goes off, and then gets an equally ridiculous offer based on his play in that one game. I mean really, the guys got a SB ring, he's been backing up one of the all time greats, he deserves a shot somewhere to show what he can do.

10-09-2012, 10:05 AM	#13
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Drew Brees' record-breaking TD pass was a play Chase Daniel knew would work Originally Posted by Shoe. I'd love it for Chase if he were to get in a Matt Flynn type situation, i.e., he comes in at the end of the season to rest Drew (since we'll have already locked up the playoff spot by then fingers crossed) and he has one of those ridiculous games where he just flat out goes off, and then gets an equally ridiculous offer based on his play in that one game. I mean really, the guys got a SB ring, he's been backing up one of the all time greats, he deserves a shot somewhere to show what he can do. I have as much hope as anyone... Not for a locked up rest Drew scenario though. We would have to Lock up the NFC South and HAVE to beat Atlanta twice, or some teams will have to go downhill really quick for us to lock anything up.

10-09-2012, 10:10 AM	#14
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Drew Brees' record-breaking TD pass was a play Chase Daniel knew would work Originally Posted by Saint_LB Do you think it will ever be Chase Daniel's team? Not likely.

10-09-2012, 10:31 AM	#15
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Drew Brees' record-breaking TD pass was a play Chase Daniel knew would work Chase understands his role, and he is perfect for this team as he is presently being utilized. If this organization thought Chase was starting material, we wouldn't keep bringing in 2-3 QB's for preseason. They bring in and try out new QB's because they are looking for the next Drew Brees, not another Chase Daniels. Chase has a SB ring because he was part of the team, much like Shanle. "Backing up" essentially means he watched Drew. He has had chances to "light it up" in preseason and doesn't. He has been in two regular season games and has yet to WOW anyone enough to come after him. I am in no way saying he is bad at all, I am just saying he has yet to make the most of his opportunities. Think about this when you think starting QB for the Saints. With the rest of our season being a must win fest... What are our chances with Drew? What are our chances if Chase is starting? Chase also likes to bolt under pressure. Not a good thing, look at Vick's injuries, RGIII concussion this week.. We need a passer. The Brady and Rogers argument could be used but how many of those arguments are out there?
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10-09-2012, 04:04 PM	#18
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Drew Brees' record-breaking TD pass was a play Chase Daniel knew would work SaintsBro: I buy that... I do recall saying in preseason he needs some time with MLB to learn how to SLIDE. Rugby: Experts watch him daily. I am sure if he had shown then something in practice by now he would have had opportunity.

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