Right Tackle Help?!? - Bears Release Former First Round Pick

Utah_Saint · 10-18-2012, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

If someone is cut midseason from a position group that is among the worst in the league has no shot at making this team. Has he shown you some qualities that are really appealing to you and that you think will help this team excel? Have you scouted this talent? My guess is no. My gut feeling is if he is not good enough to play on one of the bottom five o lines even as a back up then I wouldn't want him. It's clock work, every time someone is let go people think THEY see something in this person that professional coaches and scouts do not. He wasn't cut because he is good. I don't think that anyone has ever been cut because their play was too good for the team.
Researchers...can you find the last person cut midseason that turned their career around at that point.

No, I haven't scouted him myself. As a matter of fact, I couldn't pick him out of a line up. And your gut feeling is most likely correct, being cut from one of the worst offensive lines in football is definitely NOT a ringing endorsement.

What I do know is that the Saints back-up tackles have played terribly when called upon. We've seen that the last couple pre-seasons. The starters go out and the o-line falls apart. Chase Daniel never seemed to have a pocket to throw from and the running backs never had a hole. Also, during the Ram game last year, Charles Brown was a walking turnstyle. It was one of the biggest reasons we lost that game.

So all I'm asking is, what does it hurt to check him out? No one is suggesting he's going to replace Bushrod or Strief. If, like you said, he doesn't even make the scout team, then no harm done.

FinSaint · 10-17-2012, 04:06 PM

I can't really remember how he has performed in the Bears' games I've seen, but like others have already stated, that Bears' O-line hasn't been good for several seasons.

Now, it could be that their O-line coaching just sucks, because they've had some pretty promising prospects play on that O-line without real success, and I seem to recall that they've tried to play those guys in multiple variations of position duties... and it really hasn't worked out in any of those variations.

If Kromer would see him a worthwhile guy to take a closer look at, then I'd be all for it, but my gut says that he wouldn't really be able to contribute in any meaningful way - at least during this season.

Still, Strief needs to be a backup and not a starter at RT!

10-18-2012, 06:46 AM	#1
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Right Tackle Help?!? - Bears Release Former First Round Pick Originally Posted by Speedy Ron If someone is cut midseason from a position group that is among the worst in the league has no shot at making this team. Has he shown you some qualities that are really appealing to you and that you think will help this team excel? Have you scouted this talent? My guess is no. My gut feeling is if he is not good enough to play on one of the bottom five o lines even as a back up then I wouldn't want him. It's clock work, every time someone is let go people think THEY see something in this person that professional coaches and scouts do not. He wasn't cut because he is good. I don't think that anyone has ever been cut because their play was too good for the team. Researchers...can you find the last person cut midseason that turned their career around at that point. No, I haven't scouted him myself. As a matter of fact, I couldn't pick him out of a line up. And your gut feeling is most likely correct, being cut from one of the worst offensive lines in football is definitely NOT a ringing endorsement. What I do know is that the Saints back-up tackles have played terribly when called upon. We've seen that the last couple pre-seasons. The starters go out and the o-line falls apart. Chase Daniel never seemed to have a pocket to throw from and the running backs never had a hole. Also, during the Ram game last year, Charles Brown was a walking turnstyle. It was one of the biggest reasons we lost that game. So all I'm asking is, what does it hurt to check him out? No one is suggesting he's going to replace Bushrod or Strief. If, like you said, he doesn't even make the scout team, then no harm done.

10-17-2012, 04:06 PM	#2
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Right Tackle Help?!? - Bears Release Former First Round Pick I can't really remember how he has performed in the Bears' games I've seen, but like others have already stated, that Bears' O-line hasn't been good for several seasons. Now, it could be that their O-line coaching just sucks, because they've had some pretty promising prospects play on that O-line without real success, and I seem to recall that they've tried to play those guys in multiple variations of position duties... and it really hasn't worked out in any of those variations. If Kromer would see him a worthwhile guy to take a closer look at, then I'd be all for it, but my gut says that he wouldn't really be able to contribute in any meaningful way - at least during this season. Still, Strief needs to be a backup and not a starter at RT!
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