Greg Schiano, Carl Nicks Discuss Facing Saints in Tampa Bay

10-18-2012, 02:20 PM

Before I read this, I really missed Carl.

I am 100% for him looking out for his best interest, but don't make the Saints look like the bad guys and make it seem like they offered you peanuts. That's B.S. in my book.

SaintsBro · 10-18-2012, 02:36 PM

I love me some Carl Nicks in a Saints uniform, I never get tired of watching him blow defenders up in slow motion in his highlights... but people tend to forget that he got benched in preseason in 2010 for an attitude problem, he got in a huge fight/tantrum with the coaches during the Rams game in 2011, and he was basically never the same for the team, attitude-wise, after Evans got his deal.

So this was no surprise to me when all this went down, the way it did. Go with Grubbs, for a LOT cheaper, and save that money for people who really do want be here instead of grumbling. Plus the Grubbs deal happened so darn fast after Nicks left (they had Grubbs in Loomis' office in the facility, roughly 24 hours later) that it makes me think it was premeditated, it wasn't unexpected, that they knew this was coming.

Nicks is trying to rationalize his decision, in his own head, so like the fox and the grapes, he needs to make it seem like it was a good decision, so that he can continue to sleep at night with his 4-5 extra million. So of course, that means putting down the Saints.

Danno · 10-18-2012, 02:46 PM

“It’s a business. I don’t hate anybody in the organization. They drafted me. I won a Super Bowl there. I got a lot of love from a lot of people there. At the same time, I think they had (Ben) Grubbs in the same day free agency started. I think it was that day or day after. You can say I left or say they sent me packing.”

Wouldn't the Saints offer have made him one of the highest paid OG's in the entire NFL?

Great OG, but truly a moron.

Rugby Saint II · 10-18-2012, 03:17 PM

It's an easier business decision than some of us give credit for. Four million dollars........how long would it take to spend four million dollars if you were handing out $100 bills as fast as you could?
That's alot of money. I don't see where it would be an easy decision to leave your Superbowl winning franchise.......however, I'd take the money and run.

NuNu318 · 10-18-2012, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

It's an easier business decision than some of us give credit for. Four million dollars........how long would it take to spend four million dollars if you were handing out $100 bills as fast as you could?
That's alot of money. I don't see where it would be an easy decision to leave your Superbowl winning franchise.......however, I'd take the money and run.

But thats the thing tho...I don't think anyone is saying he shouldn't have taken the money....just be a man about it and say it. Dont make it seem like the Saints didn't give a S*** about you.

SapperSaint · 10-18-2012, 03:25 PM

After watching the 30 for 30 show about Pro athletes and their money; my eyes were opened a little. The way those guys pi$$ money away is just crazy.

(I fully expect some backlash for watching an ESPN show. But those 30 for 30 shows are pretty good.)

dizzle88 · 10-18-2012, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

After watching the 30 for 30 show about Pro athletes and their money; my eyes were opened a little. The way those guys pi$$ money away is just crazy.

(I fully expect some backlash for watching an ESPN show. But those 30 for 30 shows are pretty good.)

I like some of those shows

Especially the one about Marcus Dupree, he could have been the best RB ever but burned out really young

And ofcourse the Matt Hoffman one because he pushed his already frail body to the limits everyday

Danno · 10-18-2012, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

It's an easier business decision than some of us give credit for. Four million dollars........how long would it take to spend four million dollars if you were handing out $100 bills as fast as you could?

When you're deciding between 56 million, and 60 million, that 4 million isn't nearly as much money as you think.

He left for a measley 7% increase in salary, then wants to say that we sent him packing?

The Dude · 10-18-2012, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Let nicks take the money, it's obvious that he wanted it because he's prepared to go to a mediocre team with a bust for a QB

7 seasons of below .500 records will make him realise his mistake

I would not go so far as to call Freeman a bust. And they have pretty much given us hell for the past couple of years.

The Dude · 10-18-2012, 03:53 PM

Grubbs is the better player at this point this year anyway.

10-18-2012, 02:20 PM	#11
Threaded by SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7 Rating: (0 votes - average) Before I read this, I really missed Carl. I am 100% for him looking out for his best interest, but don't make the Saints look like the bad guys and make it seem like they offered you peanuts. That's B.S. in my book.
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10-18-2012, 02:36 PM	#12
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Greg Schiano, Carl Nicks Discuss Facing Saints in Tampa Bay I love me some Carl Nicks in a Saints uniform, I never get tired of watching him blow defenders up in slow motion in his highlights... but people tend to forget that he got benched in preseason in 2010 for an attitude problem, he got in a huge fight/tantrum with the coaches during the Rams game in 2011, and he was basically never the same for the team, attitude-wise, after Evans got his deal. So this was no surprise to me when all this went down, the way it did. Go with Grubbs, for a LOT cheaper, and save that money for people who really do want be here instead of grumbling. Plus the Grubbs deal happened so darn fast after Nicks left (they had Grubbs in Loomis' office in the facility, roughly 24 hours later) that it makes me think it was premeditated, it wasn't unexpected, that they knew this was coming. Nicks is trying to rationalize his decision, in his own head, so like the fox and the grapes, he needs to make it seem like it was a good decision, so that he can continue to sleep at night with his 4-5 extra million. So of course, that means putting down the Saints. SapperSaint likes this.

10-18-2012, 02:46 PM	#13
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Greg Schiano, Carl Nicks Discuss Facing Saints in Tampa Bay “It’s a business. I don’t hate anybody in the organization. They drafted me. I won a Super Bowl there. I got a lot of love from a lot of people there. At the same time, I think they had (Ben) Grubbs in the same day free agency started. I think it was that day or day after. You can say I left or say they sent me packing.” Wouldn't the Saints offer have made him one of the highest paid OG's in the entire NFL? Great OG, but truly a moron.

10-18-2012, 03:17 PM	#14
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Greg Schiano, Carl Nicks Discuss Facing Saints in Tampa Bay It's an easier business decision than some of us give credit for. Four million dollars........how long would it take to spend four million dollars if you were handing out $100 bills as fast as you could? That's alot of money. I don't see where it would be an easy decision to leave your Superbowl winning franchise.......however, I'd take the money and run.

10-18-2012, 03:22 PM	#15
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Greg Schiano, Carl Nicks Discuss Facing Saints in Tampa Bay Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II It's an easier business decision than some of us give credit for. Four million dollars........how long would it take to spend four million dollars if you were handing out $100 bills as fast as you could? That's alot of money. I don't see where it would be an easy decision to leave your Superbowl winning franchise.......however, I'd take the money and run. But thats the thing tho...I don't think anyone is saying he shouldn't have taken the money....just be a man about it and say it. Dont make it seem like the Saints didn't give a S*** about you.

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10-18-2012, 03:25 PM	#16
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Greg Schiano, Carl Nicks Discuss Facing Saints in Tampa Bay After watching the 30 for 30 show about Pro athletes and their money; my eyes were opened a little. The way those guys pi$$ money away is just crazy. (I fully expect some backlash for watching an ESPN show. But those 30 for 30 shows are pretty good.) D_it_up likes this.

10-18-2012, 03:42 PM	#17
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Greg Schiano, Carl Nicks Discuss Facing Saints in Tampa Bay Originally Posted by SapperSaint After watching the 30 for 30 show about Pro athletes and their money; my eyes were opened a little. The way those guys pi$$ money away is just crazy. (I fully expect some backlash for watching an ESPN show. But those 30 for 30 shows are pretty good.) I like some of those shows Especially the one about Marcus Dupree, he could have been the best RB ever but burned out really young And ofcourse the Matt Hoffman one because he pushed his already frail body to the limits everyday D_it_up likes this.

10-18-2012, 03:45 PM	#18
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Greg Schiano, Carl Nicks Discuss Facing Saints in Tampa Bay Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II It's an easier business decision than some of us give credit for. Four million dollars........how long would it take to spend four million dollars if you were handing out $100 bills as fast as you could? When you're deciding between 56 million, and 60 million, that 4 million isn't nearly as much money as you think. He left for a measley 7% increase in salary, then wants to say that we sent him packing?

10-18-2012, 03:52 PM	#19
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Greg Schiano, Carl Nicks Discuss Facing Saints in Tampa Bay Originally Posted by dizzle88 Let nicks take the money, it's obvious that he wanted it because he's prepared to go to a mediocre team with a bust for a QB 7 seasons of below .500 records will make him realise his mistake I would not go so far as to call Freeman a bust. And they have pretty much given us hell for the past couple of years.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Greg Schiano, Carl Nicks Discuss Facing Saints in Tampa Bay Grubbs is the better player at this point this year anyway.
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