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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper No issue with Nicks looking out for himself. But let him be honest and say "the Bucs had 4 mil more in salary cap and I took it", and not this crap about the Saints "letting ...

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Old 10-18-2012, 01:02 PM   #1
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Re: Greg Schiano, Carl Nicks Discuss Facing Saints in Tampa Bay

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper View Post
No issue with Nicks looking out for himself. But let him be honest and say "the Bucs had 4 mil more in salary cap and I took it", and not this crap about the Saints "letting him go" or "sending him packing" or that the Saints "didn't look at him as a premier player that could be a leader".
I agree with this....don't make it seem like the Saints just never tried to offer you anything and told you to kick rocks....he went to the Bucs because they offered him 4-5mil more than the Saints did plain and simple. Not saying he has to praise the Saints or allude to that... just don't S*** on the Saints to the media because YOU decided to take the highest bidder.


But thats the gift & the curse with the Saints....you turn them into superstars, or in Reggie's case a perceived one, and they lose respect for the team that made them because of their inflated ego. Reggie wanted to get paid like a RB that was better than he really was. We couldn't do it based off of his production in the system. You trade him to somewhere he can shine and get paid....then he goes to the media first chance he can get and S***s on the Saints..

Carl Nicks wants to be paid more than Evans....Saints can't give him every penny in their bank account because 1. the other guy next to you is already breaking the bank. 2. The guy your protecting, the bread & butter of the team, HAS to get paid first. We want him tho, try to make him a good fair offer. He scoffs and runs to the highest bidder. Soon as the media asks why he came to a division rival....he S***s on the Saints instead of acknowledging the fact that we did try to keep him and made him an offer any OG except himself would take.

It doesn't happen all the time with the Saints because most of these guys we've made high caliber players, especially from the lower rounds, really do appreciate playing with this team. (i.e. Marques Colston, PT, Lance Moore) Its not all about money with most of these guys. Which is nice....but sometimes you get the guys that get that big head mentality....it is what it is I guess.
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He took the extra four million over staying with a winner. I hope that money can buy him happiness, because losing ain't much fun.
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Before I read this, I really missed Carl.

I am 100% for him looking out for his best interest, but don't make the Saints look like the bad guys and make it seem like they offered you peanuts. That's B.S. in my book.
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I love me some Carl Nicks in a Saints uniform, I never get tired of watching him blow defenders up in slow motion in his highlights... but people tend to forget that he got benched in preseason in 2010 for an attitude problem, he got in a huge fight/tantrum with the coaches during the Rams game in 2011, and he was basically never the same for the team, attitude-wise, after Evans got his deal.

So this was no surprise to me when all this went down, the way it did. Go with Grubbs, for a LOT cheaper, and save that money for people who really do want be here instead of grumbling. Plus the Grubbs deal happened so darn fast after Nicks left (they had Grubbs in Loomis' office in the facility, roughly 24 hours later) that it makes me think it was premeditated, it wasn't unexpected, that they knew this was coming.

Nicks is trying to rationalize his decision, in his own head, so like the fox and the grapes, he needs to make it seem like it was a good decision, so that he can continue to sleep at night with his 4-5 extra million. So of course, that means putting down the Saints.
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“It’s a business. I don’t hate anybody in the organization. They drafted me. I won a Super Bowl there. I got a lot of love from a lot of people there. At the same time, I think they had (Ben) Grubbs in the same day free agency started. I think it was that day or day after. You can say I left or say they sent me packing.”

Wouldn't the Saints offer have made him one of the highest paid OG's in the entire NFL?

Great OG, but truly a moron.
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It's an easier business decision than some of us give credit for. Four million dollars........how long would it take to spend four million dollars if you were handing out $100 bills as fast as you could?
That's alot of money. I don't see where it would be an easy decision to leave your Superbowl winning franchise.......however, I'd take the money and run.
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It's an easier business decision than some of us give credit for. Four million dollars........how long would it take to spend four million dollars if you were handing out $100 bills as fast as you could?
That's alot of money. I don't see where it would be an easy decision to leave your Superbowl winning franchise.......however, I'd take the money and run.
But thats the thing tho...I don't think anyone is saying he shouldn't have taken the money....just be a man about it and say it. Dont make it seem like the Saints didn't give a S*** about you.
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It's an easier business decision than some of us give credit for. Four million dollars........how long would it take to spend four million dollars if you were handing out $100 bills as fast as you could?
When you're deciding between 56 million, and 60 million, that 4 million isn't nearly as much money as you think.

He left for a measley 7% increase in salary, then wants to say that we sent him packing?
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After watching the 30 for 30 show about Pro athletes and their money; my eyes were opened a little. The way those guys pi$$ money away is just crazy.

(I fully expect some backlash for watching an ESPN show. But those 30 for 30 shows are pretty good.)
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After watching the 30 for 30 show about Pro athletes and their money; my eyes were opened a little. The way those guys pi$$ money away is just crazy.

(I fully expect some backlash for watching an ESPN show. But those 30 for 30 shows are pretty good.)
I like some of those shows

Especially the one about Marcus Dupree, he could have been the best RB ever but burned out really young

And ofcourse the Matt Hoffman one because he pushed his already frail body to the limits everyday
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