Defense....

Rugby Saint II · 10-22-2012, 12:55 PM

We are a bend don't break defense. I anticipate the middle giving up lots of yardage. We have now shown the ability to slow down the opposition closte to our goal line.
Really, that's what a lot of people on the board think is the recipe for winning with our high powered offense. I agree that this is ok for now, at least until Payton returns. We will have a full draft next year(I think) for Spags to get a few more critical parts.
It's definitely better than 0-4!

73Saint · 10-22-2012, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

I just can't comprehend why there are ALWAYS receivers WIDE open with no one within 10 yards of them??? Why is this happening every single game?

This is what continues to confuse me as well. And it's not even on blitzes. We rush three or four, yet there are guys that have no one within 15 yards of the receiver. That tells me there is still major confusion with the scheme. But then again, I don't know squat, it's just my best guess...

TheOak · 10-22-2012, 01:18 PM

Ok the ugly question...

HOW in the HELL did Jenkins catch Jackson? From not only behind but at an angle. Who was SUPPOSED to be covering Jackson? Oh yea... Patrick and Harper all over that air.

Jackson 40 time 4.6s
Jenkins 40 time 4.55s

Jackson was tired from all the success he had against that Defense.

Kudos to Jenkins for not quitting like THE REST OF THE DEFENSE DID. But being the only person to not quit isn't as much of a testament to Jenkins as it is to the other 10 on the field.

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iWho_Dat · 10-22-2012, 02:03 PM

Well one its a division game our games always go down to the final play. Two both teams are in a must win situation. So they will play harder. And I think every team is playing us extra "hard" "motivated" whatever because they are trying to keep us outta the playoffs. Since the superbowls in our house this season.

blackangold · 10-22-2012, 02:17 PM

corey white is trash... almost as bad as shanle. I wont write him off yet because he is a rook but in every game he gets burnt at lease 2 or 3 times.

|Mitch| · 10-22-2012, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

corey white is trash... almost as bad as shanle. I wont write him off yet because he is a rook but in every game he gets burnt at lease 2 or 3 times.

A 5th round rookie at that! He was never supposed to see this much playing time his rookie year...

TheOak · 10-22-2012, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by iWho_Dat

Well one its a division game our games always go down to the final play. Two both teams are in a must win situation. So they will play harder. And I think every team is playing us extra "hard" "motivated" whatever because they are trying to keep us outta the playoffs. Since the superbowls in our house this season.

Sorry brother. It isn't how we'll they play.... It's how badly we play.

CharityMike · 10-22-2012, 07:25 PM

It has become painfully obvious what our defense is going to be this year. Give up all the yards on first and second down and stop them on third down when they get to the red zone. We actually held TB to 4 of 12 on 3rd down. Sprinkle in some "hope we stop them and make a play". Thats our defense this year.

TheEnigma · 10-22-2012, 07:48 PM

Defense is still not good and it scares me when they are on the field trying to protect a lead. They just can't seem to stop the big plays. At least our offense has been playing good.

FinSaint · 10-22-2012, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Ok the ugly question...

HOW in the HELL did Jenkins catch Jackson? From not only behind but at an angle. Who was SUPPOSED to be covering Jackson? Oh yea... Patrick and Harper all over that air.

Jackson 40 time 4.6s
Jenkins 40 time 4.55s

Jackson is probably still suffering from that injury... knee I think. And he has never been a "burner," but more a Colston type receiver. Also, Jenkins was running toward him, even though from an angle like you said, and Jackson bobbled the pass a little which probably affected his acceleration after the catch.

Nevertheless, it was a good effort from Jenkins, but it certainly doesn't erase the fact that he has been mostly garbage this whole season.

10-22-2012, 12:55 PM	#21
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Defense.... We are a bend don't break defense. I anticipate the middle giving up lots of yardage. We have now shown the ability to slow down the opposition closte to our goal line. Really, that's what a lot of people on the board think is the recipe for winning with our high powered offense. I agree that this is ok for now, at least until Payton returns. We will have a full draft next year(I think) for Spags to get a few more critical parts. It's definitely better than 0-4!
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10-22-2012, 01:10 PM	#22
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Defense.... Originally Posted by CharityMike I just can't comprehend why there are ALWAYS receivers WIDE open with no one within 10 yards of them??? Why is this happening every single game? This is what continues to confuse me as well. And it's not even on blitzes. We rush three or four, yet there are guys that have no one within 15 yards of the receiver. That tells me there is still major confusion with the scheme. But then again, I don't know squat, it's just my best guess...

10-22-2012, 01:18 PM	#23
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Defense.... Ok the ugly question... HOW in the HELL did Jenkins catch Jackson? From not only behind but at an angle. Who was SUPPOSED to be covering Jackson? Oh yea... Patrick and Harper all over that air. Jackson 40 time 4.6s Jenkins 40 time 4.55s Jackson was tired from all the success he had against that Defense. Kudos to Jenkins for not quitting like THE REST OF THE DEFENSE DID. But being the only person to not quit isn't as much of a testament to Jenkins as it is to the other 10 on the field. http://nfl.cpl.delvenetworks.com/pla...ac7df2d653e442
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

10-22-2012, 02:03 PM	#24
iWho_Dat 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 247	Re: Defense.... Well one its a division game our games always go down to the final play. Two both teams are in a must win situation. So they will play harder. And I think every team is playing us extra "hard" "motivated" whatever because they are trying to keep us outta the playoffs. Since the superbowls in our house this season.
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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Defense.... corey white is trash... almost as bad as shanle. I wont write him off yet because he is a rook but in every game he gets burnt at lease 2 or 3 times.

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10-22-2012, 05:43 PM	#26
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Defense.... Originally Posted by blackangold corey white is trash... almost as bad as shanle. I wont write him off yet because he is a rook but in every game he gets burnt at lease 2 or 3 times. A 5th round rookie at that! He was never supposed to see this much playing time his rookie year...

10-22-2012, 07:19 PM	#27
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by iWho_Dat Well one its a division game our games always go down to the final play. Two both teams are in a must win situation. So they will play harder. And I think every team is playing us extra "hard" "motivated" whatever because they are trying to keep us outta the playoffs. Since the superbowls in our house this season. Sorry brother. It isn't how we'll they play.... It's how badly we play.

10-22-2012, 07:25 PM	#28
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Defense.... It has become painfully obvious what our defense is going to be this year. Give up all the yards on first and second down and stop them on third down when they get to the red zone. We actually held TB to 4 of 12 on 3rd down. Sprinkle in some "hope we stop them and make a play". Thats our defense this year.

10-22-2012, 07:48 PM	#29
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10-22-2012, 08:36 PM	#30
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Defense.... Originally Posted by x626xBlack Ok the ugly question... HOW in the HELL did Jenkins catch Jackson? From not only behind but at an angle. Who was SUPPOSED to be covering Jackson? Oh yea... Patrick and Harper all over that air. Jackson 40 time 4.6s Jenkins 40 time 4.55s Jackson is probably still suffering from that injury... knee I think. And he has never been a "burner," but more a Colston type receiver. Also, Jenkins was running toward him, even though from an angle like you said, and Jackson bobbled the pass a little which probably affected his acceleration after the catch. Nevertheless, it was a good effort from Jenkins, but it certainly doesn't erase the fact that he has been mostly garbage this whole season.

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