Whatever happened to the Louis Freeh Investigation?

NuNu318 · 10-25-2012, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Mikemike

I don't care what you "noticed" from your experience trolling other forums all across the league...nor what it leads you to believe.

There exists video tape of vitt stealing vicodin and audio tape of patten trying to figure out a way to cover it up. Those are facts.

That along with the bounty program shows a pattern of misconduct. That's a fact, too.

Deny, deflect, dodge, change the subject, call people names...whatever you like.
It won't change the facts that there has been ongoing misconduct on the team, primarily among the coaches.

I live here...I've had the same tix for over 10 years..sat in the same section, same seats ...until the renovations to the dome and they moved us from sidelines in sec. 109 to end zone sec. 102. (Poydras end zone)

From 1999 to 2002 we had season tix in 123 (Girod St. end zone). What section are you in, by the way?

THAT'S why it pisses me off that they took our money, and due to the coaches misconduct after being warned to stop, they have to field a poor product this year.

I'm done..you kids can continue your pep rally now.

If you've been a season ticket holder for 10 yrs....where was all the outrage when none of this stuff was happening and they were putting out a "defective product". And nobody is denying the facts......we just don't care....if you care fine.....but you constantly derail threads. Thats why we bag on you and call you a troll. You're a sour puss...LOL. If you want everyone to know the facts why don't you create a thread specifically for that. That way people can either ignore you or respond but at least it will be on subject...

Shoe. · 10-25-2012, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Mikemike

You're clueless...Good teams WIN games..with all their players and coaches on the field...not suspended and being punished for misconduct.

The saints were warned to stop the bounty program..they didn't..they got caught..players and coaches were suspended...right, wrong or indifferent..all they had to do was STOP the program...That goes to the head coach and G.M.

So yeah...The saints are culpable. It didn't have to be this way.

LMAO at the jealous people questioning whether or not I have tix...sad little boys... I have them and I'm keeping them...and I'll say whatever I like about how the team is (mis) managed.

You guys think Lance Armstrong is cool even though he got caught cheating?
How about Sosa, Canseco, Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire...etc...?
Cheaters are ok as long as they win?..Is that it?

rah! rah!..go team!

Please, stop thread jacking.

Start your own thread if you would like to discuss this, because there are plenty of people here who will indulge you, me being one of them

But this business of coming into random threads and bringing up the Vicodin thing (which you really are sore about, apparently) is just plain rude and bad forum behavior

Go to the Smack Talk forum, start a thread and then find out how everybody REALLY feels about you, away from the "PG-13" threads where little eyes may be looking

Beastmode · 10-25-2012, 11:50 AM

Anyway...back to the THREAD TOPIC. My question is what is Benson's intentions once the report is signed and delivered. I'm assuming it's to highlight to the owners the level of incompotence on Roger's part if it's favorable to the Saints. If not, I assume he will do nothing with it or say he called it off to save face.

NuNu318 · 10-25-2012, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Anyway...back to the THREAD TOPIC. My question is what is Benson's intentions once the report is signed and delivered. I'm assuming it's to highlight to the owners the level of incompotence on Roger's part if it's favorable to the Saints. If not, I assume he will do nothing with it or say he called it off to save face.

If its favorable the owners are going to have to make a decision on a new commisioner in my opinion....especially if it goes public like the Penn State investigation. But we'll see. I for one don't expect it to be released until maybe after the season, and maybe even after the court proceedings.

SaintsBro · 10-25-2012, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by "Vicodin"Mike

You got something you want to say to me "away from the PG threads", tough guy?..I think that could probably be arranged. Maybe next home game?

How old ARE you, anyway? I mean, who actually seriously says "tough guy" to anybody? And I don't think I've actually heard anybody threaten to meet someone in person, that they are arguing with on the internet, since oh around 2002 or so. Please don't respond to the question by offering to beat me up at Handsome Willie's before the game. I just want to know, this beacon of "maturity," calling everyone "son" and "child," how old you really are.

lumm0x · 10-25-2012, 12:26 PM

I think I figured out who Mikemike is. Pretty sure the last name is Cerullo.

His mingling of facts and conjecture reminds me alot of the league investigations. And both are good for some comedic relief.

Shoe. · 10-25-2012, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Mikemike

this thread was about the Freeh investigation...read the headline...I mentioned another instance of misconduct that was investigated.It reveals a pattern of misconduct....it's not hijacking...I understand your feelings are hurt, but grow up... or ACT like it anyway.
You got something you want to say to me "away from the PG threads", tough guy?..I think that could probably be arranged. Maybe next home game?

Quit dodging and ducking and face facts, son.

You really like calling people names. For someone who claims to be as old as the Saints, you certainly do not post like an adult. You only cement the observation that most people who claim maturity and call people names like "child" and "son" are in fact the most immature of all.

Your last post is the first time you mentioned the Freeh report, so, yes, you are in fact hijacking

Despite your claims, I haven't dodged or ducked any facts, check MY posts.

Feelings hurt? Don't flatter yourself.

btw, not trying to be tough, I'm trying to respect the rules of the forum. You should give it a try sometime

TheOak · 10-25-2012, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Mikemike

Observing facts and commenting on reality isn't "shoving self righteousness...etc...etc...blah..blah.."

I understand it hurts your feelings that your heroes have been caught cheating and lying...but ignoring reality doesn't change it. As you get older you'll begin to understand more about how the real world works.

I WILL comment on it....and whenever I like...That's MY money that I'm paying for a defective product.

Sit around in podunk or peoria or wherever you're from and lecture all you like.

Season ticket holders have a lot more at stake and have lost a LOT more than you casual fans far far away who never attend games...

You need to take your issues concerning your product up with the entity you purchased them from, not here...... Just because you purchase season tickets does not mean you purchased the right to troll forums, call people "child", and derail every conversation back to your a season ticket holder. Here is a hint, you didn't buy season tickets from BlackamdGold.com.

I've asked you kindly to stop carrying on in this manor.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-25-2012, 12:59 PM

As amusing as this thread is, why do you keep on replying to this dude?
He's either senile , or a fan of another team trying to pretend to be a Saints fan. It would be hysterical if he indeed was Cerullo, as Lumm0x says.

The reality is, no one outside the Saints organization knows the scope of the work Freeh is doing for Benson, so whatever hypothesis or theory or assumption anyone may have about the scope of Freeh's investigation, is just that.

Beastmode · 10-25-2012, 01:03 PM

I know what you think bounty means, sonny. To me its just a made up word. A politicians word, so Goodell and fellas like himself can wear a suit and a tie, and have a job to contain the looming player lawsuits.

What do you really want to know? Are our coaches sorry for what they did?
There's not a day goes by that they don't feel regret. Not because they are out there, or because you think they should. They look back on the way it was then:

A great organization, who supported a pay for performance system. I want to talk to them. I want to try and talk some sense to them, tell them the way things are. But I cant. Goodell has gone off the deep end and this wounded, struggling team is all that's left (they did win 2 in a row!).

They got to live with that. Rehabilitated? It's just a bull**** word. So you go on and stamp your suspensions, sonny, and stop wasting my time. Because to tell you the truth, I dont give a ****.

10-25-2012, 11:42 AM	#21
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Whatever happened to the Louis Freeh Investigation? Originally Posted by Mikemike I don't care what you "noticed" from your experience trolling other forums all across the league...nor what it leads you to believe. There exists video tape of vitt stealing vicodin and audio tape of patten trying to figure out a way to cover it up. Those are facts. That along with the bounty program shows a pattern of misconduct. That's a fact, too. Deny, deflect, dodge, change the subject, call people names...whatever you like. It won't change the facts that there has been ongoing misconduct on the team, primarily among the coaches. I live here...I've had the same tix for over 10 years..sat in the same section, same seats ...until the renovations to the dome and they moved us from sidelines in sec. 109 to end zone sec. 102. (Poydras end zone) From 1999 to 2002 we had season tix in 123 (Girod St. end zone). What section are you in, by the way? THAT'S why it pisses me off that they took our money, and due to the coaches misconduct after being warned to stop, they have to field a poor product this year. I'm done..you kids can continue your pep rally now. If you've been a season ticket holder for 10 yrs....where was all the outrage when none of this stuff was happening and they were putting out a "defective product". And nobody is denying the facts......we just don't care....if you care fine.....but you constantly derail threads. Thats why we bag on you and call you a troll. You're a sour puss...LOL. If you want everyone to know the facts why don't you create a thread specifically for that. That way people can either ignore you or respond but at least it will be on subject...

10-25-2012, 11:45 AM	#22
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Whatever happened to the Louis Freeh Investigation? Originally Posted by Mikemike You're clueless...Good teams WIN games..with all their players and coaches on the field...not suspended and being punished for misconduct. The saints were warned to stop the bounty program..they didn't..they got caught..players and coaches were suspended...right, wrong or indifferent..all they had to do was STOP the program...That goes to the head coach and G.M. So yeah...The saints are culpable. It didn't have to be this way. LMAO at the jealous people questioning whether or not I have tix...sad little boys... I have them and I'm keeping them...and I'll say whatever I like about how the team is (mis) managed. You guys think Lance Armstrong is cool even though he got caught cheating? How about Sosa, Canseco, Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire...etc...? Cheaters are ok as long as they win?..Is that it? rah! rah!..go team! Please, stop thread jacking. Start your own thread if you would like to discuss this, because there are plenty of people here who will indulge you, me being one of them But this business of coming into random threads and bringing up the Vicodin thing (which you really are sore about, apparently) is just plain rude and bad forum behavior Go to the Smack Talk forum, start a thread and then find out how everybody REALLY feels about you, away from the "PG-13" threads where little eyes may be looking

10-25-2012, 11:50 AM	#23
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Whatever happened to the Louis Freeh Investigation? Anyway...back to the THREAD TOPIC. My question is what is Benson's intentions once the report is signed and delivered. I'm assuming it's to highlight to the owners the level of incompotence on Roger's part if it's favorable to the Saints. If not, I assume he will do nothing with it or say he called it off to save face.
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10-25-2012, 11:57 AM	#24
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Whatever happened to the Louis Freeh Investigation? Originally Posted by Beastmode Anyway...back to the THREAD TOPIC. My question is what is Benson's intentions once the report is signed and delivered. I'm assuming it's to highlight to the owners the level of incompotence on Roger's part if it's favorable to the Saints. If not, I assume he will do nothing with it or say he called it off to save face. If its favorable the owners are going to have to make a decision on a new commisioner in my opinion....especially if it goes public like the Penn State investigation. But we'll see. I for one don't expect it to be released until maybe after the season, and maybe even after the court proceedings.

10-25-2012, 12:06 PM	#25
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Whatever happened to the Louis Freeh Investigation? Originally Posted by "Vicodin"Mike You got something you want to say to me "away from the PG threads", tough guy?..I think that could probably be arranged. Maybe next home game? How old ARE you, anyway? I mean, who actually seriously says "tough guy" to anybody? And I don't think I've actually heard anybody threaten to meet someone in person, that they are arguing with on the internet, since oh around 2002 or so. Please don't respond to the question by offering to beat me up at Handsome Willie's before the game. I just want to know, this beacon of "maturity," calling everyone "son" and "child," how old you really are. kcsaints and Shoe. like this.

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10-25-2012, 12:26 PM	#26
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Whatever happened to the Louis Freeh Investigation? I think I figured out who Mikemike is. Pretty sure the last name is Cerullo. His mingling of facts and conjecture reminds me alot of the league investigations. And both are good for some comedic relief. kcsaints likes this.

10-25-2012, 12:40 PM	#27
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Whatever happened to the Louis Freeh Investigation? Originally Posted by Mikemike this thread was about the Freeh investigation...read the headline...I mentioned another instance of misconduct that was investigated.It reveals a pattern of misconduct....it's not hijacking...I understand your feelings are hurt, but grow up... or ACT like it anyway. You got something you want to say to me "away from the PG threads", tough guy?..I think that could probably be arranged. Maybe next home game? Quit dodging and ducking and face facts, son. You really like calling people names. For someone who claims to be as old as the Saints, you certainly do not post like an adult. You only cement the observation that most people who claim maturity and call people names like "child" and "son" are in fact the most immature of all. Your last post is the first time you mentioned the Freeh report, so, yes, you are in fact hijacking Despite your claims, I haven't dodged or ducked any facts, check MY posts. Feelings hurt? Don't flatter yourself. btw, not trying to be tough, I'm trying to respect the rules of the forum. You should give it a try sometime

10-25-2012, 12:56 PM	#28
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by Mikemike Observing facts and commenting on reality isn't "shoving self righteousness...etc...etc...blah..blah.." I understand it hurts your feelings that your heroes have been caught cheating and lying...but ignoring reality doesn't change it. As you get older you'll begin to understand more about how the real world works. I WILL comment on it....and whenever I like...That's MY money that I'm paying for a defective product. Sit around in podunk or peoria or wherever you're from and lecture all you like. Season ticket holders have a lot more at stake and have lost a LOT more than you casual fans far far away who never attend games... You need to take your issues concerning your product up with the entity you purchased them from, not here...... Just because you purchase season tickets does not mean you purchased the right to troll forums, call people "child", and derail every conversation back to your a season ticket holder. Here is a hint, you didn't buy season tickets from BlackamdGold.com. I've asked you kindly to stop carrying on in this manor.

10-25-2012, 12:59 PM	#29
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Whatever happened to the Louis Freeh Investigation? As amusing as this thread is, why do you keep on replying to this dude? He's either senile , or a fan of another team trying to pretend to be a Saints fan. It would be hysterical if he indeed was Cerullo, as Lumm0x says. The reality is, no one outside the Saints organization knows the scope of the work Freeh is doing for Benson, so whatever hypothesis or theory or assumption anyone may have about the scope of Freeh's investigation, is just that.

10-25-2012, 01:03 PM	#30
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Whatever happened to the Louis Freeh Investigation? I know what you think bounty means, sonny. To me its just a made up word. A politicians word, so Goodell and fellas like himself can wear a suit and a tie, and have a job to contain the looming player lawsuits. What do you really want to know? Are our coaches sorry for what they did? There's not a day goes by that they don't feel regret. Not because they are out there, or because you think they should. They look back on the way it was then: A great organization, who supported a pay for performance system. I want to talk to them. I want to try and talk some sense to them, tell them the way things are. But I cant. Goodell has gone off the deep end and this wounded, struggling team is all that's left (they did win 2 in a row!). They got to live with that. Rehabilitated? It's just a bull** word. So you go on and stamp your suspensions, sonny, and stop wasting my time. Because to tell you the truth, I dont give a **.
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