Whatever happened to the Louis Freeh Investigation?
 

I was really looking forward to the results of the former FBI Director's investigation into the "Bounty Scandal" when it was announced that he had been retained by Benson.
Saints hire former FBI director to take top-to-bottom look at organization | ProFootballTalk

I would think that if the results had been favorable they would have been trumpeted from the highest hill. Not a word. Freeh was retained by Benson in Late May/ early June. Four plus months, and not a word? No favorable progress reports?!?

The story just died. Anybody know anything?

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Well the Penn State investigation took over six months and over 400 interviews and was only investigating ONE THING, whereas this is supposedly looking into all the different events and controversies surrounding the Saints and how they happened. So it may take time.

Also there is an gap between when Freeh was HIRED and when he actually STARTED. He didn't officially finish up his work at Penn State until June/July when that report was released. While of course he could have had assistants and so forth beginning the job, and finishing the job at Penn State, my guess is that the real work didn't begin until summer, so it really hasn't been that long.

Plus, there is a possibility that it was done "for Benson's eyes only" and we will never know what it contains. It might actually end up just being a bunch of bland and boring corporate stuff like, flow charts of organizational structures and "best practices" recommendations for how to run a corporation, "employee dispute resolution" and boring stuff like that.

But my hunch is that whatever is going on with it, it is still too early and it has not happened yet. Something may come of it, but we just need to be patient. Knowing how long these things can take, and the fact that it will be very thorough, it might not even drop until December or even after the Super Bowl.

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The other thing I like to mention about Freeh is that (a) he caught the Unabomber by basically setting a trap and then laying back quietly and letting him give himself enough "rope" to "hang himself" with, to expose his identity, and (b) in the Penn State investigation, Freeh actually found a "smoking gun" email about Sandusky from 2004 that had been missed by prosecutors the first time around, so the man is very thorough and patient.

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I know that lately the media has said of Freeh "he caught the unabomber", but the unabomber was caught because his brother turned him in. Before that, the FBI wasn't aware Ted Kaczynski even existed.

As for the OP, I don't think anyone outside the Saints organization knows what the scope of the Freeh report actually is

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Yup. I don't want to get into a huge discussion of it here, but the Unabomber was caught because they published his "manifesto" which he had been asking them to publish, which his brother then recognized the ideas in the "manifesto" as sounding like his brother. Freeh was involved in the decision to publish the "manifesto" and put it out there. But you're right -- I don't want to make it sound like Freeh single handedly tracked him down in his cabin and put the cuffs on the guy all by himself, he didn't do that, but the putting the manifesto out there was a decision to try and give the (unknown) guy what he wanted, and then let him sink himself by putting all his information and ideas out there at once.... His brother had previously suspected it might be Ted, but then recognized the writing style in the paper and was instantly like "OH ____, that's got to be him."

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I don't want to get into this here either :) , but the publishing of the manifesto wasn't this clever trap either. The unambomber told the FBI he would stop the bombings if the Washington Post published his manifesto.

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Dub ass.........him not you.;)

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You're going to need a bigger can!

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Translation: HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!!!

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Quit cryin Silky Johnson....

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Ah jeez, he dropped his noonie from his high-chair again

Can one of you guys pick it up and give it a rinse so we don't have to listen to this anymore?

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Yet you're still responding....LOL. But serioulsy dude chill out. Its just jokes man.

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Wasn't he also working on the wire tapp allegations? If so that's two rubix cubes so yeah, it's going to take a while. It does raise some interesting questions however. Why does he need this information? What would he do with it if it's favorable/unfavorable? Use it as fuel to show the other owners that Roger should be held accountable? I have no idea.

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You're angry with the team...whatever...but do you have to shove your self righteousness down everyone's throat. Why do you feel the need to keep bringing the stuff up that people are trying to get past. Everyone has their opinions but seriously this is a forum for Saints fans....if you feel you don't want to be a Saints fan anymore because you felt they did something wrong ok then...keep it moving and go do something else....S*** go watch golf or something...just get Get off your f***ing soapbox already....you're just going to have to get over the fact the honestly NOBODY CARES. I mean S*** you act like this seriously effects you in your everyday life....did SP or Vitt come and sprinkle some narcotics in your car and frame YOU for it?!? We just don't care dude....we are football fans....we are irrational when it comes to our team. If you cant accept that then sell you season tickets to somebody and move on....but if you're going to stay.....don't expect people not to joke on you for crying all the damn time....

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I attend games every chance I get and have been a devoted Saints fan since 1967 when my father was transferred down here. I've been here through the good and bad. Personally, I don't care anything about the Vicodin deal. It is a non-issue. I don't see what your obsession is with it. Only a Falcons fan would even have reason to have a concern and the vast majority of them aren't even anal enough to care.

And the way you go on and on about being a season ticket holder is beginning to sound fishy. I have spent the last several years visiting team forums all across the league and have noticed that some of the most efficient trolls are those fans from other teams that pose as a disgruntled fan of the board's home team. They seem to float from thread to thread constantly bringing up the same thing over and over again. Something they feel should upset the other readers on the site.

Not saying that is you, sir, but just letting you know the way you come across.

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Well take that S*** up with the Saints front office. LOL. WE are not paying for YOUR tickets. Why don't you write a letter to the Saints if you're such an angry customer. No need to throw threads into a negative tailspin cuz YOU feel like you're wasting you're money....

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MM, you want a rebate? You do realize there are 14 teams that have NEVER won a SB. The coaches you are chastising are the same ones that had you cheering your butt off the last three years.

Meanwhile you have teams like the Cowboys that were dormant for well over a decade. Our coaches messed up, there is no denying that, but there is also no denying they have put a good product on the field.

A product so good that even despite the long arm of Goodell they are still winning games. Two in a row as of today. If they were being destroyed every week then I see your point but that's not what is going on. They could very easily be undefeated right now. The games they have lost were on avg of less than a TD. It's still good entertainment. Ask yourself, have you got up and left or stopped watching this season because it was hopeless before the 4th quarter?

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Exactly.....have you ever seen this guy actually comment on the football games that have been going on this year?

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There is no way a current Saints season ticket holder could justify wanting a rebate. Complete nonsense. Every game came down to the wire. That is entertainment. Good teams entertain their fans.

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MM, I envy you because I relocated up north. I would buy your tickets from you right now if I lived there. I can also assure you there are many others that would be more than happy to relieve you of the horror you have to endure every week.

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If you've been a season ticket holder for 10 yrs....where was all the outrage when none of this stuff was happening and they were putting out a "defective product". And nobody is denying the facts......we just don't care....if you care fine.....but you constantly derail threads. Thats why we bag on you and call you a troll. You're a sour puss...LOL. If you want everyone to know the facts why don't you create a thread specifically for that. That way people can either ignore you or respond but at least it will be on subject...

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Please, stop thread jacking.

Start your own thread if you would like to discuss this, because there are plenty of people here who will indulge you, me being one of them

But this business of coming into random threads and bringing up the Vicodin thing (which you really are sore about, apparently) is just plain rude and bad forum behavior

Go to the Smack Talk forum, start a thread and then find out how everybody REALLY feels about you, away from the "PG-13" threads where little eyes may be looking

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Anyway...back to the THREAD TOPIC. My question is what is Benson's intentions once the report is signed and delivered. I'm assuming it's to highlight to the owners the level of incompotence on Roger's part if it's favorable to the Saints. If not, I assume he will do nothing with it or say he called it off to save face.

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If its favorable the owners are going to have to make a decision on a new commisioner in my opinion....especially if it goes public like the Penn State investigation. But we'll see. I for one don't expect it to be released until maybe after the season, and maybe even after the court proceedings.

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How old ARE you, anyway? I mean, who actually seriously says "tough guy" to anybody? And I don't think I've actually heard anybody threaten to meet someone in person, that they are arguing with on the internet, since oh around 2002 or so. Please don't respond to the question by offering to beat me up at Handsome Willie's before the game. I just want to know, this beacon of "maturity," calling everyone "son" and "child," how old you really are.

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I think I figured out who Mikemike is. Pretty sure the last name is Cerullo.

His mingling of facts and conjecture reminds me alot of the league investigations. And both are good for some comedic relief.

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You really like calling people names. For someone who claims to be as old as the Saints, you certainly do not post like an adult. You only cement the observation that most people who claim maturity and call people names like "child" and "son" are in fact the most immature of all.

Your last post is the first time you mentioned the Freeh report, so, yes, you are in fact hijacking

Despite your claims, I haven't dodged or ducked any facts, check MY posts.

Feelings hurt? Don't flatter yourself.

btw, not trying to be tough, I'm trying to respect the rules of the forum. You should give it a try sometime

You need to take your issues concerning your product up with the entity you purchased them from, not here...... Just because you purchase season tickets does not mean you purchased the right to troll forums, call people "child", and derail every conversation back to your a season ticket holder. Here is a hint, you didn't buy season tickets from BlackamdGold.com.

I've asked you kindly to stop carrying on in this manor.

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As amusing as this thread is, why do you keep on replying to this dude?
He's either senile , or a fan of another team trying to pretend to be a Saints fan. It would be hysterical if he indeed was Cerullo, as Lumm0x says.

The reality is, no one outside the Saints organization knows the scope of the work Freeh is doing for Benson, so whatever hypothesis or theory or assumption anyone may have about the scope of Freeh's investigation, is just that.

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I know what you think bounty means, sonny. To me its just a made up word. A politicians word, so Goodell and fellas like himself can wear a suit and a tie, and have a job to contain the looming player lawsuits.

What do you really want to know? Are our coaches sorry for what they did?
There's not a day goes by that they don't feel regret. Not because they are out there, or because you think they should. They look back on the way it was then:

A great organization, who supported a pay for performance system. I want to talk to them. I want to try and talk some sense to them, tell them the way things are. But I cant. Goodell has gone off the deep end and this wounded, struggling team is all that's left (they did win 2 in a row!).

They got to live with that. Rehabilitated? It's just a bull**** word. So you go on and stamp your suspensions, sonny, and stop wasting my time. Because to tell you the truth, I dont give a ****.