Latest Vilma brief attaches whistleblower email from Cerullo

Halo · 10-31-2012, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by TXGSP

If the e-mail lfrom the NFL is in the incorrect format, Ginsberg is going to TEAR not only the message but the league a new one.

Have dealt with e-mail evidence in a courtroom (DOJ, FINRA, & SEC) and there are only 1-2 formats that are acceptable due to possible tampering. Ginsberg specified correctly in requests there is no way the league could remove any response to Cerillo. That one reference is something that is going to come up later.

If the league doesn't provide or have the messages in the correct format for the court they can and will get thrown out as evidence for/against the players.

There are too many forensic investigators that could tear anything in the incorrect format to peices and leave the attnys standing there with their mouth open...

If this gets into the courtroom - I have to buy a ticket...

Same here. Run infrastructure for 3 state & local government agencies and email archive requests can blow a house of cards down in seconds.

I've seen public records requests for emails shatter careers, put people in jail and end marriages.

This email is a teaser - the response to the email from the NFL to Cerullo probably exonerates Vilma and collapses the bubble around the NFL.

Shoe. · 10-31-2012, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

This email is a teaser - the response to the email from the NFL to Cerullo probably exonerates Vilma and collapses the bubble around the NFL.

But will we ever see it??!? I hope it comes out...

Halo · 10-31-2012, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

But will we ever see it??!? I hope it comes out...

That's the reason why Vilma's legal team attached the email in their court motion to have the court help find another arbitrator besides Tagliabue. The email shows:

The NFL got a sketchy invite to hit the Saints from Cerullo
Cerullo was bargaining for information before giving it to the NFL (ie. I was fired, I'll give you trash on Saints if you make sure I get a job in NFL)
That there's an answer to Cerullo's email....

All of which will be subpoenaed to the court. If the NFL tampers with the evidence and that can be proven, people will go to jail.

It's another warning shot over the NFL's head to think twice or this case will become a federal circus where the NFL WILL BE EXPOSED.

TXGSP · 10-31-2012, 06:00 PM

All of which will be subpoenaed to the court. If the NFL tampers with the evidence and that can be proven, people will go to jail.

It's another warning shot over the NFL's head to think twice or this case will become a federal circus where the NFL WILL BE EXPOSED.

This may be the one thing that keeps this out of court - settlement.

But, the settlement could be so "pricey" the league may push it.

TheOak · 10-31-2012, 11:51 AM

I hope an image of the email servers for the NFL is requested and granted to the NFLPA lawyers.

I want one email found, the one that states "we know everyone is going it but we are going to make the Saints the example for the league".

RailBoss · 10-31-2012, 08:23 PM

Just in case you forgot what the mug looks like.

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/8045...ke-cerullo.jpg

saintsfan1976 · 11-01-2012, 06:59 AM

It still angers me that there's no hope of getting Payton back.

10-31-2012, 10:50 AM	#1
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,867 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Latest Vilma brief attaches whistleblower email from Cerullo Originally Posted by TXGSP If the e-mail lfrom the NFL is in the incorrect format, Ginsberg is going to TEAR not only the message but the league a new one. Have dealt with e-mail evidence in a courtroom (DOJ, FINRA, & SEC) and there are only 1-2 formats that are acceptable due to possible tampering. Ginsberg specified correctly in requests there is no way the league could remove any response to Cerillo. That one reference is something that is going to come up later. If the league doesn't provide or have the messages in the correct format for the court they can and will get thrown out as evidence for/against the players. There are too many forensic investigators that could tear anything in the incorrect format to peices and leave the attnys standing there with their mouth open... If this gets into the courtroom - I have to buy a ticket... Same here. Run infrastructure for 3 state & local government agencies and email archive requests can blow a house of cards down in seconds. I've seen public records requests for emails shatter careers, put people in jail and end marriages. This email is a teaser - the response to the email from the NFL to Cerullo probably exonerates Vilma and collapses the bubble around the NFL. RailBoss and TXGSP like this.

10-31-2012, 11:00 AM	#2
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Latest Vilma brief attaches whistleblower email from Cerullo Originally Posted by Halo This email is a teaser - the response to the email from the NFL to Cerullo probably exonerates Vilma and collapses the bubble around the NFL. But will we ever see it??!? I hope it comes out...

10-31-2012, 04:23 PM	#3
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,867 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Latest Vilma brief attaches whistleblower email from Cerullo Originally Posted by Shoe. But will we ever see it??!? I hope it comes out... That's the reason why Vilma's legal team attached the email in their court motion to have the court help find another arbitrator besides Tagliabue. The email shows: The NFL got a sketchy invite to hit the Saints from Cerullo Cerullo was bargaining for information before giving it to the NFL (ie. I was fired, I'll give you trash on Saints if you make sure I get a job in NFL) That there's an answer to Cerullo's email.... All of which will be subpoenaed to the court. If the NFL tampers with the evidence and that can be proven, people will go to jail. It's another warning shot over the NFL's head to think twice or this case will become a federal circus where the NFL WILL BE EXPOSED. TXGSP, SaintsBro and Shoe. like this.
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10-31-2012, 11:51 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Latest Vilma brief attaches whistleblower email from Cerullo I hope an image of the email servers for the NFL is requested and granted to the NFLPA lawyers. I want one email found, the one that states "we know everyone is going it but we are going to make the Saints the example for the league".

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Latest Vilma brief attaches whistleblower email from Cerullo It still angers me that there's no hope of getting Payton back.

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