Steve Spagnuolo: "I Believe in These Guys"

10-30-2012, 10:55 AM

We are so screwed on defense

GeauxForMore · 10-30-2012, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

You don't "fix" a defense this bad, but you can make it at least competitive. We couldn't have won 13 games last year with this defense. The thing is we have the same players, plus Lofton, Hawthorne and Bunkley (I realize Hawthorne has been out), and have still somehow transformed into the worst defense in NFL history through 7 games. That doesn't speak well for anyone, players or coaches.

This D was bad last year too. This is why GW blitz almost every damn play because we can't cover or get pressure on the QB. Spags need to stop believing in the D so much and start doing what GW did cause playing a traditional D isn't something this team can do.

burningmetal · 10-30-2012, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

This D was bad last year too. This is why GW blitz almost every damn play because we can't cover or get pressure on the QB. Spags need to stop believing in the D so much and start doing what GW did cause playing a traditional D isn't something this team can do.

That was my point, guy. I know they weren't good last year, but they were at least competitive enough to compliment the offense. That's why Spagnuolo has to shoulder a lot of blame, along with the players, for not recognizing that his scheme just isn't going to work right now. And now the offense is failing right along with them.

Jamessr · 10-30-2012, 12:18 PM

I'm glad he believes in them... because besides may 3-4 I think they're all trash.

pinch · 10-30-2012, 01:58 PM

Sounds like he's part of the problem after all.

Rugby Saint II · 10-30-2012, 02:09 PM

Throw them under the bus Spags. They aren't executing your plan, whether it's through missed communication or missed tackles.

Mardigras9 · 10-30-2012, 03:14 PM

Isn't this the same guy who said he has never experienced a defense this bad and therefore isn’t quite sure where to start fixing it?

SaintsBro · 10-30-2012, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Isn't this the same guy who said he has never experienced a defense this bad and therefore isn’t quite sure where to start fixing it?

If you read the actual interview, what he said, and not the headline of the other article that puts words in his mouth and paraphrases from the same interview, you'll see that he never said either of those things. He said that usually his defenses play pretty good, and he wasn't used to it (ie losing or being blown out), not that he'd never experienced a defense this bad before. He didn't say he doesn't know how to fix it, he said he can't put his finger on figuring it out NOW, less than 24 hours after the game and the flight back.

It's the same exact interview and the same quote, with a different headline.

lumm0x · 10-30-2012, 03:35 PM

We have to make a decision. Throw the scheme plan in the toilet and just return to being a blitzing team to generate pressure and hope that alleviates the exposure of our coverage and tackling deficiencies. Option 2, hold fast to the the new scheme and just die slowly for the remainder of the year until he can blow up our personnel and start drafting and bidding in FA on scheme matching players. We have too many square pegs for too many round holes to do what he wants to do right now.

SaintsBro · 10-30-2012, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

We have too many square pegs for too many round holes to do what he wants to do right now.

LOL that's it exactly, they need to do like in Apollo 13 and just dump a box of spare parts and crap on the table and cobble something together, have Joe Vitt and Spags and the coaches spend a weekend cooped up in a room, figuring out how to fix the damn thing and radio the instructions up to the players to get this bird home.

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10-30-2012, 11:01 AM	#12
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 589	Re: Steve Spagnuolo: "I Believe in These Guys" Originally Posted by burningmetal You don't "fix" a defense this bad, but you can make it at least competitive. We couldn't have won 13 games last year with this defense. The thing is we have the same players, plus Lofton, Hawthorne and Bunkley (I realize Hawthorne has been out), and have still somehow transformed into the worst defense in NFL history through 7 games. That doesn't speak well for anyone, players or coaches. This D was bad last year too. This is why GW blitz almost every damn play because we can't cover or get pressure on the QB. Spags need to stop believing in the D so much and start doing what GW did cause playing a traditional D isn't something this team can do. lumm0x likes this.

10-30-2012, 11:26 AM	#13
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Steve Spagnuolo: "I Believe in These Guys" Originally Posted by GeauxForMore This D was bad last year too. This is why GW blitz almost every damn play because we can't cover or get pressure on the QB. Spags need to stop believing in the D so much and start doing what GW did cause playing a traditional D isn't something this team can do. That was my point, guy. I know they weren't good last year, but they were at least competitive enough to compliment the offense. That's why Spagnuolo has to shoulder a lot of blame, along with the players, for not recognizing that his scheme just isn't going to work right now. And now the offense is failing right along with them.

10-30-2012, 12:18 PM	#14
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Steve Spagnuolo: "I Believe in These Guys" I'm glad he believes in them... because besides may 3-4 I think they're all trash.

10-30-2012, 01:58 PM	#15
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Steve Spagnuolo: "I Believe in These Guys" Sounds like he's part of the problem after all.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Steve Spagnuolo: "I Believe in These Guys" Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Isn't this the same guy who said he has never experienced a defense this bad and therefore isn’t quite sure where to start fixing it? If you read the actual interview, what he said, and not the headline of the other article that puts words in his mouth and paraphrases from the same interview, you'll see that he never said either of those things. He said that usually his defenses play pretty good, and he wasn't used to it (ie losing or being blown out), not that he'd never experienced a defense this bad before. He didn't say he doesn't know how to fix it, he said he can't put his finger on figuring it out NOW, less than 24 hours after the game and the flight back. It's the same exact interview and the same quote, with a different headline.

10-30-2012, 03:35 PM	#19
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Steve Spagnuolo: "I Believe in These Guys" We have to make a decision. Throw the scheme plan in the toilet and just return to being a blitzing team to generate pressure and hope that alleviates the exposure of our coverage and tackling deficiencies. Option 2, hold fast to the the new scheme and just die slowly for the remainder of the year until he can blow up our personnel and start drafting and bidding in FA on scheme matching players. We have too many square pegs for too many round holes to do what he wants to do right now. Rugby Saint II likes this.

10-30-2012, 04:09 PM	#20
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Steve Spagnuolo: "I Believe in These Guys" Originally Posted by lumm0x We have too many square pegs for too many round holes to do what he wants to do right now. LOL that's it exactly, they need to do like in Apollo 13 and just dump a box of spare parts and crap on the table and cobble something together, have Joe Vitt and Spags and the coaches spend a weekend cooped up in a room, figuring out how to fix the damn thing and radio the instructions up to the players to get this bird home. saintfan likes this.

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