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The ONE question that isn't being asked is "Who put an escape clause in the extension?" I don't think the Saints front office. Remember when he was hired he wanted to "commute" between New Orleans and Dallas? His family moves back "home" and now his contract is null and void. There is something wrong with this picture. If he signs an extension with the Saints I'll happily eat that crow but......

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The extension was approved by ownership and signed by Payton with a clause that said If Loomis is suspended/terminated he would be able to get out of his contract. Now mind you this was BEFORE the whole Bounty BS came to light. I really thing Goodell rejected it because he knew He was going to suspend both Loomis & SP.

But the clause was put in by SP and Benson signed off on it so its not like he didn't know or feel comfortable that he was going to retain both Loomis and SP.

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No doubt, that's just great freaking news.

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The more and more I think about this the more it seems like a plot by Goodell to get seperate SP, Loomis and Brees in N.O.

1. He rejected the extension during the 2011 season after it was signed and thought to be ok'd. SP was coaching a SB contender…didn’t have the time to be distracted by contract talks…much like Brees. Which actually makes me think thats why Brees decided to table his talks as well and why it took so long to get done. When Goodell dropped the Bounty bomb the FO was sent scrambling having to make a contingency plan for coaching instead of taking care of these contracts like they planned on doing. Its clear Loomis, SP, and Brees want their Legacies tied together much like the Pats through the dynasty years with Belichiek, Brady, and Pioli.

2. He dropped the Bounty BS during the offseason suspending Payton for a year and Loomis for 8 games. Both can’t have contact with the team or with each other and have to ask permission to even go to games. Which hinders them from even getting an extension done....

3. Then he leaks the news like its something that just happend a week ago and gets everyone into a uproar....saying its up to the Saints and that he's waiting on them to submit another "acceptable" extension contract knowing full well they can't F***in talk to each other until the offseason.

Its so transparent if you look at the timelines of this whole situation...

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Just curious how do people think there is some type of conspiracy?
Really... do you folks really think that is the case?

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We didn't get the contract offered and signed in time.
The contract was never an issue.
The team probably drafted it and it was with Sean Payton's attorney until he met with Saints management for signature and approval.

The CBA was signed on August 4, 2011. This contract was signed on September 5, 2011.

The CBA gave gODhELL absolute authority over every aspect of Coaching contracts.

Had we gotten this done a month earlier (ie. Aug. 4, 2011) this wouldn't be an issue as it would pre-date the current CBA.

Who knew gODhELL would negotiate himself as god in the CBA?

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SP stating that he "plans" to coach the Saints isn't the same as stating "I WILL" It doesn't matter anyway because we all know the world ends next month. The Falcons on their way to a 16 - 0 season and poof!

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Actually the league didn't like it when it was drafted.. Apparently there is language in it tying Payton to Loomis stating that Payton could leave if Loomis left.

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If gODhELL were trying to separate them, why would the NFL void the contract now in the public?

Because techincally - Mickey Loomis has been suspended, therefore Sean Payton has an "out" in his contract so he could leave and go to ANY team that paid him right now. Why would the league get involved and make public this fact when they could have left it alone and SP could have slipped off to Jerry Jones world without anyone knowing until it was done?

The NFL DOES NOT want ridiculous clauses like this in contracts because it would start a firestorm of player B.S. - like (for example) "player X's contract is void if player Y and player Z are traded or let go as free agents by the Team." Can you imagine the idiocy that could ensue?

In this case, I blame the Saints for allowing this to happen to themselves. Then again, the person approving the contract (Mickey Loomis) is the party mentioned in Sean Payton's contract.

The entire situation is blown out of proportion by the surrounding case on Bountygate that Sean Payton was suspended for. Again, sloppy contract work and sloppy front office crap by the Saints. The NFL is merely reviewing coaches contracts and found a "no-no" therein.

But doesn't matter if the NFL voids the thing, they're probably doing us a favor forcing hand on Coach Payton now. Facts are, with the current contract, Sean Payton has an "out" because Mickey Loomis HAS BEEN suspended and can leave without notice at any time in its present wording.

Cowlishaw: After Jason Garrett’s sorry performance, let the Sean Payton-to-Cowboys speculation begin
 

SportsDaily DFW - 11/5/2012 - Cowlishaw: After Jason Garrett’s sorry performance, let the Sean Payton-to-Cowboys speculation begin

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The Saints will push for 2013 to fall under the contract... Players that are suspended carry over in contract also.. Paytons agent will push back to get an extension...

Guess who's hands it will fall into for that decision... Yup, Goodell.

The reason this issue has not been silenced and will not be silenced for a week is because Loomis cant do anything yet.

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But when Loomis comes back will he even be able to do anything about the situation when Payton can't have contact?

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Contact is allowed with league approval. Goodell would be in a really bad light... worse than he is now, if he was an obstructionist on getting this extension done.

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Yeah thats true.

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Which leads me to the ultimate question - Why would Sean Payton actually want to coach at the Dallas Cowboys?

I think this should be a thread of its own. Seriously, the Dallas job is one of the most infamous for short lived coaches in the NFL. The biggest "named" coach in recent history was Tuna and the situation was impossible for him to turn around.

With an overbearing owner who IS GM, how is the Dallas job more attractive than New Orleans?

Benson pays Sean Payton $7million a year, more than Jerry Jones has ever paid a coach. Also, if you think you'll stop Jones from meddling, you're wrong (Jerry Jones locked out of locker-room last night after Cowboys loss)

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Yeah I heard about him being locked out. Hilarious. I bet that Garrett convo with whoever locked the door was like this:

JG: Hey...

Dude: Yes sir?

JG: Lock the door...

Dude: But Mr. Jones isn't here yet...

JG: Dude...just lock the door...do you want to here this guys mouth, once again about what we need to do when he's not a F***ing coach and never has been. I'm trying to spare the annoyance man...I need to talk to my guys without the shadow of JJ for just 5 minutes. I can't get one word in when he's around and he's around 24/7....so please dude...Lock the damn door...

Dude:.....OK.... *Locks door*

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@LarryHolder
Not sure if this has been reported yet, but #Saints and Sean Payton can negotiate his contract extension right now, via source.

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Source should really wait until Loomis is present and accounted for. He is the GM.

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At this point all we can do is wait and hope Sean Payton comes back to New Orleans.
I realize he can fly back and forth yeah yeah yeah... but this guy isn't exactly working 8-4. I'm sure he's in the office till late sometimes so that throws the flying back and forth out IMO.
As much as I want him back IF and IF he chooces the job bcause of family issues I can't blame him for that.

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Please keep in mind his present contract is not over because he was suspended for a season... Suspended players contracts get "tolled" to cover for the suspended period.

"Payton and the Saints agreed to the extension in September of 2011, but the league voided the deal due to a clause that would have enabled Payton to walk away from the agreement if GM Mickey Loomis were suspended, fired or left the organization. There was some speculation that the 2012 season in Payton's deal could "toll," which means it wouldn't count against the deal and Payton could be under contract for 2013. ESPN's Adam Schefter stated adamantly, though, that won't be the case. "Short of a contract extension," Schefter reported on Sunday Countdown, "Payton will become a coaching free agent in 2013, no matter what other people are saying.""
Saints Offense - New Orleans Saints - 2012 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com


Since when do we trust ESPN?????

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Michael Lombardi on NFL.com also said he and many others in the NFL believe that the contract could be tolled and pushed back....really I don't believe anyone in the media about this situation. This was voided in MArch but somehow they JUST now find out and announce it like its breaking news....whatever...

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Apparently they didnt have sh1telse to write about.

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That's why it isn't a big deal. The status of the contract is no different than it was months ago. Nobody is going anywhere.

Re: Sean Paytons Contract voided by NFL
 

Guys.... I really think we can find something more relevant to panic about.. What say?

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I don't think his contract being toiled will have anything to do with weather or not he stays. If they can't get him locked up long term before next season they are going to move on. No point in putting things off to let him play for just one year if he does in fact want out.

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He doesn't want out. He was already locked up long term with the voided contract. He didn't want it voided. The league simply didn't like one clause.