So you think beating the Clowns was a big deal?

xan · 11-12-2012, 01:35 PM

How is ignoring reality and facts, making up fantasy pathways to the Super Bowl political? Oh, yeah, right. Sorry.

Carry on.

frydaddy · 11-12-2012, 02:46 PM

Everyone here is cognizant of the facts and the reality of the situation. Of course we're still a long shot to even make the playoffs. Thing is, and maybe I'm wrong, but I don't recall anyone suggesting otherwise after yesterday's win. You seem to have mistaken our excitement over beating the falcons for something else entirely. Then you crawfished and said that a 2-14 season is as good as a winning season, as long as the 2 wins come against the falcons. So why try to make the rest of us out to be ignorant in the first place? That's really where I took issue with your original post, the condescending tone. I'm sure I speak for most of us "mean-spirited" people when I say I respect your opinion, but the presentation was uncalled for.

burningmetal · 11-12-2012, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Yes, the win naturally was/is a big deal, and on more than one levels.

But, I do applaud xan's realist view point on this matter, and I don't agree with the harsh and outright mean responses he received by some.

Respect other peoples' opinions and point of views!

You couldn't have read the same post the rest of us did if you think we're mean spirited in our responses. We're not cursing the guy out. But when come on the heels of a big and exciting win, and tell everybody to get real, as he did, you will get exactly this kind of reaction every time. An opinion is one thing. This wasn't a presentation of why he alone didn't think it was a big deal. It was a presentation of how stupid he seems to think we all are. No one, I mean not a single person, did I see in here saying we're going to the super bowl. We were just happy to win, and he wanted poop all over that fact.

FinSaint · 11-12-2012, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

You couldn't have read the same post the rest of us did if you think we're mean spirited in our responses. We're not cursing the guy out. But when come on the heels of a big and exciting win, and tell everybody to get real, as he did, you will get exactly this kind of reaction every time. An opinion is one thing. This wasn't a presentation of why he alone didn't think it was a big deal. It was a presentation of how stupid he seems to think we all are. No one, I mean not a single person, did I see in here saying we're going to the super bowl. We were just happy to win, and he wanted poop all over that fact.

OK. Well then it seems that we both read what xan wrote, but interpreted it in different ways.

I didn't think he was belittling all of us in his initial post; just that he was representing another side to the state of how things stand at the moment in relation to the recent win over the Saints' division rival.

And, on another note, this was his thread and he made it in compliance with the forum rules, so if you don't like it... be civil about your counter-arguments or just ignore the thread!

At least that is how I see it.

NonieT · 11-12-2012, 04:52 PM

Yes. It was a big deal. It is a step in the right direction.

burningmetal · 11-12-2012, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

OK. Well then it seems that we both read what xan wrote, but interpreted it in different ways.

I didn't think he was belittling all of us in his initial post; just that he was representing another side to the state of how things stand at the moment in relation to the recent win over the Saints' division rival.

And, on another note, this was his thread and he made it in compliance with the forum rules, so if you don't like it... be civil about your counter-arguments or just ignore the thread!

At least that is how I see it.

He said it within forum rules? I didn't accuse him of breaking rules, and frankly I don't care if he did or not, to be honest. I was more than civil enough, along with everyone else. We didn't break any rules either. If he wanted to say "well it's a win, but we're still not going anywhere", then that's an opinion and I respect it, whether or not I agree. But there was no room for any other interpretation than what we took it as... We're just a pack of daydreaming fools, who have no sense of reality.

The sarcasm, and condescension couldn't have been more obvious to anyone. I will end by saying respectfully to you; if you don't like what WE have to say, then just ignore the thread. I'm not belittling your right to have a say, but you're asking us to respect an opinion while not respecting ours. When you call people out for being happy of all things, as the original poster did, then you deserve to be lambasted.

dizzle88 · 11-12-2012, 05:17 PM

Yep the win is a big deal

FinSaint · 11-12-2012, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

He said it within forum rules? I didn't accuse him of breaking rules, and frankly I don't care if he did or not, to be honest. I was more than civil enough, along with everyone else. We didn't break any rules either. If he wanted to say "well it's a win, but we're still not going anywhere", then that's an opinion and I respect it, whether or not I agree. But there was no room for any other interpretation than what we took it as... We're just a pack of daydreaming fools, who have no sense of reality.

The sarcasm, and condescension couldn't have been more obvious to anyone. I will end by saying respectfully to you; if you don't like what WE have to say, then just ignore the thread. I'm not belittling your right to have a say, but you're asking us to respect an opinion while not respecting ours. When you call people out for being happy of all things, as the original poster did, then you deserve to be lambasted.

I never claimed that you were "guilty" of the behavior I was frowning upon in my initial post, so I don't know why you are taking this so personally.

I was just defending xan's right to voice his opinion on these boards, and since he did it in a way that is in accordance to the rules the site administrator has set in place - I see no reason to make the content of his thread to consist of one hit after another on him, although many of those hits were well-mannered and in jest. Incidentally, I am also guilty of joking around and at times maybe taking it too far, so I'm far from being innocent in that regard.

I probably overreacted, and like xan already stated - he doesn't need any defending. I have nothing against no one on these boards, on the contrary, but I'd also like to see our written transactions to be more cordial at times, because "united we stand!"

xan · 11-12-2012, 05:24 PM

We are all big boyz and gurlz here and I am very happy to get my butt kicked if I'm wrong in my assessment.

It is going to be pretty obvious that we're going to be the best team in the NFL that won't go to the playoffs if we lose one more game. I'm not saying we have no chance. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't be excited about the win. All I'm saying is:

BEAT THE NEXT TEAM AND KEEP THIS SEASON MEANINGFUL

mutineer10 · 11-12-2012, 05:24 PM

I love this thread.

Feels like the good old days!

11-12-2012, 01:35 PM	#51
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11-12-2012, 02:46 PM	#52
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11-12-2012, 03:07 PM	#53
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: So you think beating the Clowns was a big deal? Originally Posted by FinSaint Yes, the win naturally was/is a big deal, and on more than one levels. But, I do applaud xan's realist view point on this matter, and I don't agree with the harsh and outright mean responses he received by some. Respect other peoples' opinions and point of views! You couldn't have read the same post the rest of us did if you think we're mean spirited in our responses. We're not cursing the guy out. But when come on the heels of a big and exciting win, and tell everybody to get real, as he did, you will get exactly this kind of reaction every time. An opinion is one thing. This wasn't a presentation of why he alone didn't think it was a big deal. It was a presentation of how stupid he seems to think we all are. No one, I mean not a single person, did I see in here saying we're going to the super bowl. We were just happy to win, and he wanted poop all over that fact.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-12-2012, 04:37 PM	#54
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: So you think beating the Clowns was a big deal? Originally Posted by burningmetal You couldn't have read the same post the rest of us did if you think we're mean spirited in our responses. We're not cursing the guy out. But when come on the heels of a big and exciting win, and tell everybody to get real, as he did, you will get exactly this kind of reaction every time. An opinion is one thing. This wasn't a presentation of why he alone didn't think it was a big deal. It was a presentation of how stupid he seems to think we all are. No one, I mean not a single person, did I see in here saying we're going to the super bowl. We were just happy to win, and he wanted poop all over that fact. OK. Well then it seems that we both read what xan wrote, but interpreted it in different ways. I didn't think he was belittling all of us in his initial post; just that he was representing another side to the state of how things stand at the moment in relation to the recent win over the Saints' division rival. And, on another note, this was his thread and he made it in compliance with the forum rules, so if you don't like it... be civil about your counter-arguments or just ignore the thread! At least that is how I see it. Crusader likes this.
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11-12-2012, 04:54 PM	#56
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: So you think beating the Clowns was a big deal? Originally Posted by FinSaint OK. Well then it seems that we both read what xan wrote, but interpreted it in different ways. I didn't think he was belittling all of us in his initial post; just that he was representing another side to the state of how things stand at the moment in relation to the recent win over the Saints' division rival. And, on another note, this was his thread and he made it in compliance with the forum rules, so if you don't like it... be civil about your counter-arguments or just ignore the thread! At least that is how I see it. He said it within forum rules? I didn't accuse him of breaking rules, and frankly I don't care if he did or not, to be honest. I was more than civil enough, along with everyone else. We didn't break any rules either. If he wanted to say "well it's a win, but we're still not going anywhere", then that's an opinion and I respect it, whether or not I agree. But there was no room for any other interpretation than what we took it as... We're just a pack of daydreaming fools, who have no sense of reality. The sarcasm, and condescension couldn't have been more obvious to anyone. I will end by saying respectfully to you; if you don't like what WE have to say, then just ignore the thread. I'm not belittling your right to have a say, but you're asking us to respect an opinion while not respecting ours. When you call people out for being happy of all things, as the original poster did, then you deserve to be lambasted.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-12-2012, 05:17 PM	#57
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11-12-2012, 05:18 PM	#58
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: So you think beating the Clowns was a big deal? Originally Posted by burningmetal He said it within forum rules? I didn't accuse him of breaking rules, and frankly I don't care if he did or not, to be honest. I was more than civil enough, along with everyone else. We didn't break any rules either. If he wanted to say "well it's a win, but we're still not going anywhere", then that's an opinion and I respect it, whether or not I agree. But there was no room for any other interpretation than what we took it as... We're just a pack of daydreaming fools, who have no sense of reality. The sarcasm, and condescension couldn't have been more obvious to anyone. I will end by saying respectfully to you; if you don't like what WE have to say, then just ignore the thread. I'm not belittling your right to have a say, but you're asking us to respect an opinion while not respecting ours. When you call people out for being happy of all things, as the original poster did, then you deserve to be lambasted. I never claimed that you were "guilty" of the behavior I was frowning upon in my initial post, so I don't know why you are taking this so personally. I was just defending xan's right to voice his opinion on these boards, and since he did it in a way that is in accordance to the rules the site administrator has set in place - I see no reason to make the content of his thread to consist of one hit after another on him, although many of those hits were well-mannered and in jest. Incidentally, I am also guilty of joking around and at times maybe taking it too far, so I'm far from being innocent in that regard. I probably overreacted, and like xan already stated - he doesn't need any defending. I have nothing against no one on these boards, on the contrary, but I'd also like to see our written transactions to be more cordial at times, because "united we stand!"
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11-12-2012, 05:24 PM	#59
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Re: So you think beating the Clowns was a big deal? We are all big boyz and gurlz here and I am very happy to get my butt kicked if I'm wrong in my assessment. It is going to be pretty obvious that we're going to be the best team in the NFL that won't go to the playoffs if we lose one more game. I'm not saying we have no chance. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't be excited about the win. All I'm saying is: BEAT THE NEXT TEAM AND KEEP THIS SEASON MEANINGFUL

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