Is this Defense finally coming around?

Jamessr · 11-12-2012, 09:29 AM

Standards?
Ok I'll try...
1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game
2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY!
3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars...

Is that enough standards?

pherein · 11-12-2012, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Great offenses will always find ways to score. Like it or not Atlanta is built to score just because thier in the same division as us and they need to keep up.
The New Orleans Saints defense will be decent when they stop allowing crap teams who shouldn't score look good.

Ive always thought smitty is a mediocre coach. Atlanta is nothing more than a cheap knock off of Sean Paytons ideas and team building.
Even down to Rogers being their sproles, their OL always being weak because we have never had a strong DL, smitty has no originality and is just building a team to beat Sean Payton. He will always be behind.
But by copying SP smith looks good by having a offense that can put up points. Problem is they get exposed for lack of coaching,play calling , and being a copy in big games or the playoffs.
If SP was coaching in sundays game, Im positive we would have pulled away and scored more in the 2nd half.

halloween 65 · 11-12-2012, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Standards?
Ok I'll try...
1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game
2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY!
3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars...

Is that enough standards?

Sums it up !!

pherein · 11-12-2012, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Standards?
Ok I'll try...
1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game
2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY!
3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars...

Is that enough standards?

Time of possession is a huge problem, yes. Its the one weakness of our offense, and how you beat the saints. Redskins game is a good example of this.
But.. I am seeing a improvement in Red Zone defense at #16, and that hasnt been adjusted for sundays game.
NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Opponent Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only) on TeamRankings.com

and thats with having the most red zone attempts. Which is their own fault.
NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Opponent Red Zone Scoring Attempts per Game on TeamRankings.com

|Mitch| · 11-12-2012, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Standards?
Ok I'll try...
1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game
2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY!
3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars...

Is that enough standards?

Doesn't matter, as long as we keep scoring more points than the other team...

Jamessr · 11-12-2012, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Doesn't matter, as long as we keep scoring more points than the other team...

Yes and having to score 35+ every week isn't putting any pressure on the offense...

pherein · 11-12-2012, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Yes and having to score 35+ every week isn't putting any pressure on the offense...

Not even sure its possible to consistently do with the TOP we give to opposing offenses.

|Mitch| · 11-12-2012, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Yes and having to score 35+ every week isn't putting any pressure on the offense...

I'd put more faith in scoring 35+ every week rather than in the defense. We have an offense built to score points, we've had a top 5 offense since '06...

Jamessr · 11-12-2012, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I'd put more faith in scoring 35+ every week rather than in the defense. We have an offense built to score points, we've had a top 5 offense since '06...

and judging from my previous post you think I don't either?

|Mitch| · 11-12-2012, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

and judging from my previous post you think I don't either?

you know what they say about assumption?

11-12-2012, 09:29 AM	#11
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Standards? Ok I'll try... 1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game 2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY! 3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars... Is that enough standards?

11-12-2012, 09:32 AM	#12
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by Jamessr Great offenses will always find ways to score. Like it or not Atlanta is built to score just because thier in the same division as us and they need to keep up. The New Orleans Saints defense will be decent when they stop allowing crap teams who shouldn't score look good. Ive always thought smitty is a mediocre coach. Atlanta is nothing more than a cheap knock off of Sean Paytons ideas and team building. Even down to Rogers being their sproles, their OL always being weak because we have never had a strong DL, smitty has no originality and is just building a team to beat Sean Payton. He will always be behind. But by copying SP smith looks good by having a offense that can put up points. Problem is they get exposed for lack of coaching,play calling , and being a copy in big games or the playoffs. If SP was coaching in sundays game, Im positive we would have pulled away and scored more in the 2nd half.
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11-12-2012, 09:35 AM	#13
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by Jamessr Standards? Ok I'll try... 1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game 2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY! 3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars... Is that enough standards? Sums it up !!

11-12-2012, 09:58 AM	#14
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by Jamessr Standards? Ok I'll try... 1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game 2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY! 3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars... Is that enough standards? Time of possession is a huge problem, yes. Its the one weakness of our offense, and how you beat the saints. Redskins game is a good example of this. But.. I am seeing a improvement in Red Zone defense at #16, and that hasnt been adjusted for sundays game. NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Opponent Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only) on TeamRankings.com and thats with having the most red zone attempts. Which is their own fault. NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Opponent Red Zone Scoring Attempts per Game on TeamRankings.com TheOak likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by Jamessr Standards? Ok I'll try... 1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game 2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY! 3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars... Is that enough standards? Doesn't matter, as long as we keep scoring more points than the other team...

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Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Doesn't matter, as long as we keep scoring more points than the other team... Yes and having to score 35+ every week isn't putting any pressure on the offense...

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pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by Jamessr Yes and having to score 35+ every week isn't putting any pressure on the offense... Not even sure its possible to consistently do with the TOP we give to opposing offenses.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by Jamessr Yes and having to score 35+ every week isn't putting any pressure on the offense... I'd put more faith in scoring 35+ every week rather than in the defense. We have an offense built to score points, we've had a top 5 offense since '06... pherein likes this.

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Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I'd put more faith in scoring 35+ every week rather than in the defense. We have an offense built to score points, we've had a top 5 offense since '06... and judging from my previous post you think I don't either?

11-12-2012, 10:16 AM	#20
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by Jamessr and judging from my previous post you think I don't either? you know what they say about assumption?

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