Is this Defense finally coming around?

halloween 65 · 11-12-2012, 09:16 AM

A new nose tackle, a FS {possibly Quaddus}, a young stud OLB, and a big physical CB and we are scary. We played good in the red zone and shut Turner down, it was just good enough for a win, I,m not impressed with some players on the D, still don't think in a game our O don't score 30+ points that our D can hold. 400+ yards given up each and every game just aint' that good, to what standards are these players being held is what I would like to know. Apparently my standards of a good D might not be the same as someone elses.

Jamessr · 11-12-2012, 09:29 AM

Standards?
Ok I'll try...
1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game
2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY!
3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars...

Is that enough standards?

halloween 65 · 11-12-2012, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Standards?
Ok I'll try...
1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game
2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY!
3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars...

Is that enough standards?

Sums it up !!

pherein · 11-12-2012, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Standards?
Ok I'll try...
1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game
2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY!
3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars...

Is that enough standards?

Time of possession is a huge problem, yes. Its the one weakness of our offense, and how you beat the saints. Redskins game is a good example of this.
But.. I am seeing a improvement in Red Zone defense at #16, and that hasnt been adjusted for sundays game.
NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Opponent Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only) on TeamRankings.com

and thats with having the most red zone attempts. Which is their own fault.
NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Opponent Red Zone Scoring Attempts per Game on TeamRankings.com

|Mitch| · 11-12-2012, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Standards?
Ok I'll try...
1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game
2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY!
3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars...

Is that enough standards?

Doesn't matter, as long as we keep scoring more points than the other team...

Jamessr · 11-12-2012, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Doesn't matter, as long as we keep scoring more points than the other team...

Yes and having to score 35+ every week isn't putting any pressure on the offense...

pherein · 11-12-2012, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Yes and having to score 35+ every week isn't putting any pressure on the offense...

Not even sure its possible to consistently do with the TOP we give to opposing offenses.

|Mitch| · 11-12-2012, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Yes and having to score 35+ every week isn't putting any pressure on the offense...

I'd put more faith in scoring 35+ every week rather than in the defense. We have an offense built to score points, we've had a top 5 offense since '06...

Jamessr · 11-12-2012, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I'd put more faith in scoring 35+ every week rather than in the defense. We have an offense built to score points, we've had a top 5 offense since '06...

and judging from my previous post you think I don't either?

FinSaint · 11-12-2012, 11:22 AM

11-12-2012, 09:29 AM	#2
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Standards? Ok I'll try... 1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game 2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY! 3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars... Is that enough standards?

11-12-2012, 09:35 AM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by Jamessr Standards? Ok I'll try... 1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game 2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY! 3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars... Is that enough standards? Sums it up !!

11-12-2012, 09:58 AM	#4
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by Jamessr Standards? Ok I'll try... 1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game 2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY! 3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars... Is that enough standards? Time of possession is a huge problem, yes. Its the one weakness of our offense, and how you beat the saints. Redskins game is a good example of this. But.. I am seeing a improvement in Red Zone defense at #16, and that hasnt been adjusted for sundays game. NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Opponent Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only) on TeamRankings.com and thats with having the most red zone attempts. Which is their own fault. NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Opponent Red Zone Scoring Attempts per Game on TeamRankings.com TheOak likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by Jamessr Standards? Ok I'll try... 1. Allowing over 400+ yard per game 2. On Pace for being the worst defense in HISTORY! 3. Allowing teams who normally don't have greta games look like super stars... Is that enough standards? Doesn't matter, as long as we keep scoring more points than the other team...

11-12-2012, 10:03 AM	#6
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Doesn't matter, as long as we keep scoring more points than the other team... Yes and having to score 35+ every week isn't putting any pressure on the offense...

11-12-2012, 09:16 AM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? A new nose tackle, a FS {possibly Quaddus}, a young stud OLB, and a big physical CB and we are scary. We played good in the red zone and shut Turner down, it was just good enough for a win, I,m not impressed with some players on the D, still don't think in a game our O don't score 30+ points that our D can hold. 400+ yards given up each and every game just aint' that good, to what standards are these players being held is what I would like to know. Apparently my standards of a good D might not be the same as someone elses. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by Jamessr Yes and having to score 35+ every week isn't putting any pressure on the offense... Not even sure its possible to consistently do with the TOP we give to opposing offenses.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by Jamessr Yes and having to score 35+ every week isn't putting any pressure on the offense... I'd put more faith in scoring 35+ every week rather than in the defense. We have an offense built to score points, we've had a top 5 offense since '06... pherein likes this.

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Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Is this Defense finally coming around? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I'd put more faith in scoring 35+ every week rather than in the defense. We have an offense built to score points, we've had a top 5 offense since '06... and judging from my previous post you think I don't either?

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