I wonder hwo well Ivory would have done if he had been given the same chance as Ingram...

He was given the same chance, and fumbled too much in practice and sucked at pass protection.

But since we're playing the hypothetical Ingram vs Ivory nonsense...

He'd probably have been placed on IR by week 6, have 3 fumbles, and Brees may have suffered a serious injury because of a missed block by Ivory, and we'd probably still be 5-5 heading into this game.

I've noticed that you always defend Roman Harper and Mark Ingram. I have since become aware that you are a fan of their alma mater. Is this why you hate to see these guys criticized? Ivory hasn't fumbled in a game in two years, meanwhile Ingram couldn't pick up a first down 80 percent of the time. Who the hell cares about practice? This is getting ridiculous. The guy comes in and is our leading rusher since coming back, hasn't fumbled, and people criticize him. As for pass protection, where was Ingram today? where was anyone? I don't think any of our backs are exactly great in that department.

I dislike unfair criticism. The Harper criticism is ridiculous. The Ingram hate is over the top.

I responded about Ivory in kind. I like Ivory, I like him a lot. But I'm not dumb enough to think he didn't have any weaknesses coming into this season. Our coach even said so.

Anyone with any football knowledge knows as the O-line goes, so do the RBs. Did you notice how much better the O-line started playing when Kromer went back to his O-line coaching position?

The Ingram haters refuse to see that. Just because Ivory is our best pure runner doesn't mean Ingram sucks. I just have to keep remembering there are a lot of young uninformed posters around here that just want to vent. So its all good I guess.

Was PT hurt? He had 1 carry for 0 yards. Why didn't he see the ball more?

Now I said myself in another post that the line woke up, and that helped. But Thomas was playing ok when he WAS getting the ball, whereas Ingram wasn't.

No PT wasn't.

Yes, he most certainly was. He was grinding out every possible yard, where no one else was getting anything.

Yes, he most certainly was. He was grinding out every possible yard, where no one else was getting anything. Go back and watch some of these games. Or just decide in advance that you won't agree with anything I have to say, which seems to be the case. I could care less at this point. I'm not biased to any particular player, or players. I'm going by what I see. I don't care how old you are, or how much longer you think you've been watching football, I know what I see when I see it.

It has become futile to try to make a point around here, without some agenda getting in the way of facts. So before I blow up needlessly, let me just agree to disagree.