Sean Payton is not leaving

TheOak · 11-30-2012, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Haps Biggest Fan

The Cowboys will make a very, very strong offer to Sean Payton, IMHO.

So if I paid you a certain $ amount, you would be a Falcons fan?

Mardigras9 · 11-30-2012, 10:19 AM

Payton, the mastermind, is sitting at home watching his Saints implode. He is analyzing and scheming in a way he has never been able to do before. He will create a MONSTER in the off-season and the Saints will be THE TEAM next year.

SmashMouth · 11-30-2012, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

So if I paid you a certain $ amount, you would be a Falcons fan?

Let the bidding begin .... LOL

TheOak · 11-30-2012, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Let the bidding begin .... LOL

Your a keeper.. Sorry.

Id pay for some others to be Falcons fans though

Jamessr · 11-30-2012, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

So if I paid you a certain $ amount, you would be a Falcons fan?

Short Answer Yes.
Long Answer Sorta.... because the amount would be so effin high that I'd buy the team for myself and change the logo and name to Saints II and we'd tag team the entire NFL WHO DAT to the 2nd power.

Haps Biggest Fan · 11-30-2012, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

The reason no deal is done is because Payton's agent has to get the NFL to agree on the conditions of his contract, which they're doing right now.
Once the NFL approves the deal, Condon has already offered to make Payton the richest coach in the league. Sean Payton's Saints contract will get done, GM says - NFL.com
Payton won't go to dallas for 3 reasons
1-he has a great relationship with loomis and condon, plus he has total control over his locker room. jones freaks out when he's not allowed in on player-coach-only meetings. that won't sit well with payton
2-with condon willing to pay him the highest salary in the league, there isn't a ton of financial incentive.
3-payton put this team together with loomis. they have the talent they need (offence anyway) to win the whole thing. who would walk away from brees with a loaded backfield to coach a lousy romo, receivers who need to be baby sat and play 1/2 your divisional games in the cold?

You make a good case for SP staying in NOLA.

Haps Biggest Fan · 11-30-2012, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

So if I paid you a certain $ amount, you would be a Falcons fan?

Yes, if my profession was being a fan of an NFL football team, I would make commercials, promotions, etc. for the highest bidder.

People who are in the pro sports industry are not fans. Fans don't make a living being fans. If fans could make a living being fans, they would sell their services to the highest bidder.

That's business.

Haps Biggest Fan · 11-30-2012, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Payton, the mastermind, is sitting at home watching his Saints implode. He is analyzing and scheming in a way he has never been able to do before. He will create a MONSTER in the off-season and the Saints will be THE TEAM next year.

That would be awesome !

Jamessr · 11-30-2012, 12:32 PM

I hope we run the score up on every team 50+ or more and flip them all off.
Don't even shake hands at the end of the game...

SaintsBro · 11-30-2012, 02:33 PM

I find this whole thing is very difficult to figure out because there's so much going on that we can't see.

IF Jerry Jones is whispering in Goodell's ear, and he is the one engineering this "problem" with the language in the contract -- meddling and phoning Goodell up and saying "Roger, I just had my lawyer read this Saints contact over, and we can't let Payton get away with this" -- then that's one thing. This whole mess with the voided contract DID seem to only pop up when Jason Garrett was really struggling - why NOW? Why wasn't this obvious problem rejected by the league last year? It takes them a YEAR to read a contract extension? THAT's what's bothering me.

And if Roger Goodell is also trying to somehow separate Payton and Loomis, because of their rogue "arrogant" ways, well that's another matter entirely. That is what any school teacher would tell you -- if you have two kids in class who are huddled in the back row cutting up, misbehaving, and giving you problems, you split them up. One here, one there. And Goodell is so ham-fisted, stilted, and so dumb with his handling of punishments and discipline, this almost sounds like something he would come up with to split them up. So they don't keep ganging up on him and embarrassing Goodell and "disrespecting the shield," cough cough.

On the other hand, it really does seem like the only talk or chatter about Payton going to Dallas...seems to be coming from Dallas. Or from people with a pro-Dallas or anti-Saints agenda. You have wildly contradictory articles about the situation, coming out on the same day. So something is going on, whether that something is real or not is anybody's guess.

It might be one of those things where people just say something very vocally because they want it to somehow come true. If you repeat it often enough, maybe it will happen!

Which actually happens a lot in these types of coaching speculation games. Look at the Les Miles Arkansas thing, or Boston College. We want Kromer! No, we want Carmichael! It's a done deal! No wait, it's not, they haven't talked at all! That kind of stuff.

11-30-2012, 07:20 AM	#21
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by Haps Biggest Fan The Cowboys will make a very, very strong offer to Sean Payton, IMHO. So if I paid you a certain $ amount, you would be a Falcons fan?

11-30-2012, 10:19 AM	#22
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Sean Payton is not leaving Payton, the mastermind, is sitting at home watching his Saints implode. He is analyzing and scheming in a way he has never been able to do before. He will create a MONSTER in the off-season and the Saints will be THE TEAM next year.

11-30-2012, 10:28 AM	#23
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Sean Payton is not leaving Originally Posted by TheOak So if I paid you a certain $ amount, you would be a Falcons fan? Let the bidding begin .... LOL

11-30-2012, 10:42 AM	#24
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Sean Payton is not leaving Originally Posted by SmashMouth Let the bidding begin .... LOL Your a keeper.. Sorry. Id pay for some others to be Falcons fans though

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Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Sean Payton is not leaving Originally Posted by TheOak So if I paid you a certain $ amount, you would be a Falcons fan? Short Answer Yes. Long Answer Sorta.... because the amount would be so effin high that I'd buy the team for myself and change the logo and name to Saints II and we'd tag team the entire NFL WHO DAT to the 2nd power.

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11-30-2012, 12:24 PM	#26
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	Re: Sean Payton is not leaving Originally Posted by saintsfan403 The reason no deal is done is because Payton's agent has to get the NFL to agree on the conditions of his contract, which they're doing right now. Once the NFL approves the deal, Condon has already offered to make Payton the richest coach in the league. Sean Payton's Saints contract will get done, GM says - NFL.com Payton won't go to dallas for 3 reasons 1-he has a great relationship with loomis and condon, plus he has total control over his locker room. jones freaks out when he's not allowed in on player-coach-only meetings. that won't sit well with payton 2-with condon willing to pay him the highest salary in the league, there isn't a ton of financial incentive. 3-payton put this team together with loomis. they have the talent they need (offence anyway) to win the whole thing. who would walk away from brees with a loaded backfield to coach a lousy romo, receivers who need to be baby sat and play 1/2 your divisional games in the cold? You make a good case for SP staying in NOLA.

11-30-2012, 12:25 PM	#27
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	Re: Sean Payton is not leaving Originally Posted by TheOak So if I paid you a certain $ amount, you would be a Falcons fan? Yes, if my profession was being a fan of an NFL football team, I would make commercials, promotions, etc. for the highest bidder. People who are in the pro sports industry are not fans. Fans don't make a living being fans. If fans could make a living being fans, they would sell their services to the highest bidder. That's business.

11-30-2012, 12:28 PM	#28
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	Re: Sean Payton is not leaving Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Payton, the mastermind, is sitting at home watching his Saints implode. He is analyzing and scheming in a way he has never been able to do before. He will create a MONSTER in the off-season and the Saints will be THE TEAM next year. That would be awesome !

11-30-2012, 12:32 PM	#29
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Sean Payton is not leaving I hope we run the score up on every team 50+ or more and flip them all off. Don't even shake hands at the end of the game...

11-30-2012, 02:33 PM	#30
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton is not leaving I find this whole thing is very difficult to figure out because there's so much going on that we can't see. IF Jerry Jones is whispering in Goodell's ear, and he is the one engineering this "problem" with the language in the contract -- meddling and phoning Goodell up and saying "Roger, I just had my lawyer read this Saints contact over, and we can't let Payton get away with this" -- then that's one thing. This whole mess with the voided contract DID seem to only pop up when Jason Garrett was really struggling - why NOW? Why wasn't this obvious problem rejected by the league last year? It takes them a YEAR to read a contract extension? THAT's what's bothering me. And if Roger Goodell is also trying to somehow separate Payton and Loomis, because of their rogue "arrogant" ways, well that's another matter entirely. That is what any school teacher would tell you -- if you have two kids in class who are huddled in the back row cutting up, misbehaving, and giving you problems, you split them up. One here, one there. And Goodell is so ham-fisted, stilted, and so dumb with his handling of punishments and discipline, this almost sounds like something he would come up with to split them up. So they don't keep ganging up on him and embarrassing Goodell and "disrespecting the shield," cough cough. On the other hand, it really does seem like the only talk or chatter about Payton going to Dallas...seems to be coming from Dallas. Or from people with a pro-Dallas or anti-Saints agenda. You have wildly contradictory articles about the situation, coming out on the same day. So something is going on, whether that something is real or not is anybody's guess. It might be one of those things where people just say something very vocally because they want it to somehow come true. If you repeat it often enough, maybe it will happen! Which actually happens a lot in these types of coaching speculation games. Look at the Les Miles Arkansas thing, or Boston College. We want Kromer! No, we want Carmichael! It's a done deal! No wait, it's not, they haven't talked at all! That kind of stuff.

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